Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

[ActionJack]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Yeah, there are arguments to be made for weakening season rewards.

With RttC, we now have the opportunity to get a free Star AND basically a "Star+" every two weeks.. AH is here to stay now, so that impacts decks greatly..

Maybe it could be for the better that Season Rewards are altered.

Here's the problem:

A) I shouldn't have to do the math on this myself. A community manager should be able to sell the idea in ways that make sense.. not saying some obviously false argument to me.

B) 400 credits is way too low regardless of anything else.

C) It's still lazy to nerf rewards, instead of expanding the game. Endgame is coming quicker. A good team with foresight would stave off endgame by enlarging the game.. not by slowing down the experience.

[SmartForce]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

The fact that I have to grind out ~190 board clears before rttp starts to ensure I get a Legendary from my reset instead of an Epic, because rttp has me in the Epic rating and thus will change my reset card to Epic ... that's pretty crappy.

RTTP should have a separate draft board from QG/RC. It's bad enough trying to get a reset before Rivals if I want to lower my deck tier to maximize win % ... having to do it every week and specifically structure grind hours in order to avoid shooting myself in the foot.

This update just keeps getting worse and worse the more I think about it.

[SmartForce]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

It's actually worse than I thought. My QC/RC lineup is Legendary.

My RTTP lineup is UR++ (and only halfway through).

That means playing RTTP will result in a reset card two full tiers below what I actually need from the grind of clearing boards.

[richie_r1ch]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

This update just keeps getting worse and worse the more I think about it.

Sure does. I'm not even going to rush to play the new game mode until I read some feedback on here about it. Don't want to risk it screwing my QG drafts up or locking my deck preventing me from doing anything else.

[chaulklet]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Game is garbage now

[mas22]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

The new season rewards would be kinda acceptable if the drop rates would improve drastically. As they are now it is not worth the effort anymore to try to improve.

Only way there was to realistically get better were the season rewards. Now it is nearly impossible for lower levels to reach star tier.

I'm in legendary season and I think that it will be impossible for me to win another season. The difference in rewards between a star season win and a legendary season win is only a lousy 250 credits. So what is most likely to happen... Players in star season will drop back to legendary tier season.

I won't play game anymore until something will be fixed. And having read NWGamedads replies I don't see that happening.

It requires lots of talent to kill a game in one single update...

[Dextro]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

After some hours of sleep the update doesn´t shine brighter than before. And I will try to explain why, there are a few things I really don´t like.

Guess it is pretty clear what they want to achieve with this update, generating more money. They prove certain times that they don´t listen to the customer. Or at least they don´t listen to the community over here.

This is in my eyes a pity, because out of my view there would be several options to achieve both - customer satisfaction and generating more money.

As NWGameDad said before, he don´t mind feedback. And that is the result out of it. In my opinion this is narrow-minded.

You want to generate more money? Then offer us more functionality, but what did you do? Copy a game mode from one app to another, lower the rewards, introducing a new pack and increase the prices in the auction house. And all that without any information exchange.

There are different types of players – what brings us together is the love for the game and the community. And I mean the NBA not your simplified tapping card game. You should be really lucky that you have the license for it, because that is the cornerstone of the success beside the fact that guys like BeegDawg are willing to spend hundreds of Dollars just for a few cards. In my option that is the driver of your success and not your community work or your updates. Because that is actually the worst I ever saw.

There are a few points I really do like in the update, but overall you are killing the game. Somehow there is still an addiction to the game, and I guess you are counting on that. That even with that update there should be enough people who are willing to spend even more.

The do have an opinion, but they are not strong enough to accomplish that. I know that this is just my opinion on it, but at least there are several others who said nearly the same. We do understand that you want to generate more money, and we are fine with it. But the way you are doing this is far away from communicating with the community or developing a great product. And if it stays as it stands right now, I will quit.

I will use Amazon to trade-in 2k15 and delete the app. I am not willing to support a company like this anymore. There needs to be some balance, and you reached the limit.

You simply cannot make those big changes without letting us know upfront.

You killed the season and the rewards, for both lower and higher tiers. In Star season you can now tank in the playoffs, because you will get you reward much faster, it will make the timing easier and nobody cares about 100 credits more or less. In lower tiers the same, nobody needs 100 credits instead of an Epic card for example. Not everybody is playing the game since the beginning; with the rewards there was always the possibility to improve your deck. Now you are winning a drop in the ocean of credits, which you mostly have to invest upfront into boost, as everybody wants at least the highest reward. If I am moving to the finals and only get one Epic instead of two, I will push even harder to make sure that I will get the one legendary card which is left.

Did you want to achieve that? Congratulation!

How the RTTC will work, we will see tomorrow. But the math so far doesn´t look to promising without spending money.

The auction house is dead for me, before it even began. So I won´t speak about it, but in overall I see your concept.

Which is far away from customer friendly – it is all based on a certain time of player / ideology. And I won´t participate in this, if there won´t be big changes. I hope that the community is strong enough to show you that … But I guess there is only a small chance.

Just my two cents … But in my opinion you are narrow-minded instead of bringing all the different perspectives into one big picture and try to do the best. But I guess that is how the gaming industry looks like today. Your biggest luck is that there is always a difference between the spoken word and the doing afterwards from most of the guys and for sure the addiction to the NBA…


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[littlemun]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

BOYCOTT is the only way out

[BeegDawg]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

They'll keep spending regardless. They'll spend for packs anyway and they'll spend on RC. Ask the top players and they'll all probably tell you they spend more now than ever. Oh, and now HOF > MVP, so there's more to go after. Soon, Playoff cards will take over. The more you get lower level players paying, the more faster you make money. Virtual economies work very similar to real economies.

I don't believe that the HOF cards make sense. I don't plan on buying them. I felt like I was getting a deal with the MVP. About 35 cards available and you get a Starter everything as opposed to spending 5K for the Legendary/ Star pack.

After I finish my current season I may exit out at quarter final. I will probably load a common bench.


I have no use for common the final rewards, thus has greater value.

[Bane]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

I don't believe that the HOF cards make sense. I don't plan on buying them. I felt like I was getting a deal with the MVP. About 35 cards available and you get a Starter everything as opposed to spending 5K for the Legendary/ Star pack.

After I finish my current season I may exit out at quarter final. I will probably load a common bench.


I have no use for common the final rewards, thus has greater value.

lol everybody is gonna be doing that now and those that win the 2nd round will be pissed that their playoffs will be extended.

[tym_b]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

The only way to avoid getting a reset at a lower tier with the RTTC lineup is to close game after every RTTC game and restart. That way you stack up your picks.
Eventually play a quick game (normal tier) and draft all your picks.
It's annoying, but less than screwing up a reset at a lower tier...

And this update, especially season rewards, is definitely awful

[tkelly]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Yea, just deleted the app, I wanted good night sleep before I decide.
Tomorow will be good day.. what a joke.. Well it was for me, becose now I can stop play this "free" game... It was fun, buy after yestrday raping I have no desire to contine, I dont even want to look at RTTC. What they do to seasons. Everyone was geting 3 stars for win, and now when I finaly in legendary season and going to star season they nerf rewards.. F that. How can I ever catch up with those who got they 3 stars for monts.. O I know I can buy packs.. FU.. I bought HS for last two RC.. ( playing for 4 RC) ... But now I am done... Good bye ..

[Dextro]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

What a perfect example for a PR disaster - if I would own the company there would be a meeting today asap to prepare a statement and show possibilities out of it.
But I highly doubt that somebody at CD is smart enough to think about that, because if they would already face the consequences in the development phase

[z0mbiesp0ut]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Thats where you are wrong. What makes you think that the business guys and the game designers dont depend on each other for feedback?

It IS Gamedad's JOB to give the business people (if there even is a separate department) the proper feedback when customers are expressing their dissatisfaction toward the game. The very fact that nothing has changed and has even regressed shows that he is not pushing hard enough for players against profit margins (if he even gives two cents about players that is)

[soreta6]

Re: Update 6 Release Notes - March 18th

Wow now in a star season everybody can lose in QF is the same as winning the season. The worst update for a game. Really funny how this company hate their players


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