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  • Leftos
    NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
    • Oct 2010
    • 1255

    #31
    Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

    JSGME works with any game, mind you. One of the most useful tools ever.
    Eleftherios "Leftos" Aslanoglou
    NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
    Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
    Novato, CA, USA

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    • miraiii
      Rookie
      • Oct 2010
      • 62

      #32
      Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

      @leftos: which method would that be? i would like preorder NBA asap to get the bonus dlc...

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      • Leftos
        NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
        • Oct 2010
        • 1255

        #33
        Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

        Huh? No DLC for PC users. Plus, as I mentioned in another thread, Amazon's DD service seems to have pushed NBA 2K13's DD release for October 16, for whatever reason. Don't pre-order from Amazon just yet.
        Eleftherios "Leftos" Aslanoglou
        NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
        Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
        Novato, CA, USA

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        • ghostf4cekilla187
          Banned
          • Sep 2012
          • 6

          #34
          Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

          pro's
          1.more mature Community

          2.Mods

          3.graphics

          con's
          online play has been basura for awhile now with bad connection issues to only being able to play on low gfx the last 2 games hopefully all that is fixed in 2k13

          There's a group of us who have been playing 2k together for about 3 years we usually run leagues together i haven't been involved as much due to the quality of the game been terrible but if 2k13 runs good as promised i going to be heavily involved again we use xfire to communicate my xfire is XXclipsXX

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          • miraiii
            Rookie
            • Oct 2010
            • 62

            #35
            Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

            ok guys...so i will just pick it up when it drops on steam then...i hope i will be able to play you guys...i mean your american...im european...pings gonna suck :-(

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            • HOLLIDAY1183
              Rookie
              • Oct 2008
              • 459

              #36
              Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

              On the way home from Best Buy now, picked up the Nvidia 560 Ti and new PSU. So excited to get this home and set it all up! A lil nervous as I have never done any PC mods before, but still excited to get into it and learning and researching as I go. I'm surprised at myself that I hadn't done this earlier actually.

              Sweet, just received the wireless 360 controller receiver for the PC today too, can't wait! Well, at least until the gf is done dragging me through Target SMH
              NOW PLAYING:
              NBA 2K16, MGS5

              WAITING FOR:
              Fallout 4

              Wife: "Of course he's going out to get his 2K game at 12am, like he can't wait til tomorrow."
              Wife's mom: "Be grateful that's what he's running out at midnight for."

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              • Leftos
                NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                • Oct 2010
                • 1255

                #37
                Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

                I promise you it's going to be an absolutely awesome experience this year. I'm seeing modders over at the NLSC already planning their work for 2K13, and I'll be doing my best in helping get the required tools out as fast as possible this year, after my experience with 2K12. If all the work that was put into 2K12 is any indication, man oh man.

                It's an exciting season for PC fans of NBA 2K, let me tell you that.
                Eleftherios "Leftos" Aslanoglou
                NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
                Novato, CA, USA

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                • shadio5
                  Pro
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 793

                  #38
                  Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

                  Originally posted by HOLLIDAY1183
                  On the way home from Best Buy now, picked up the Nvidia 560 Ti and new PSU. So excited to get this home and set it all up! A lil nervous as I have never done any PC mods before, but still excited to get into it and learning and researching as I go. I'm surprised at myself that I hadn't done this earlier actually.

                  Sweet, just received the wireless 360 controller receiver for the PC today too, can't wait! Well, at least until the gf is done dragging me through Target SMH
                  Hey holiday we seem to be thinking the same because im also gonna roll with the MSI 560 Ti. Let me ask, do you install it yourself? Are there tutorials on how to do this....never in my time on earth have i went into a computer....

                  VC/2k sports fan

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                  • Shakedowncapo
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 4031

                    #39
                    Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

                    Hey Leftos, what are the chances that the Ultimate Base roster will work right away(or with some minor tweaking) in 2k13?

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                    • RedPhazon8
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 608

                      #40
                      Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

                      Originally posted by Leftos
                      I promise you it's going to be an absolutely awesome experience this year. I'm seeing modders over at the NLSC already planning their work for 2K13, and I'll be doing my best in helping get the required tools out as fast as possible this year, after my experience with 2K12. If all the work that was put into 2K12 is any indication, man oh man.

                      It's an exciting season for PC fans of NBA 2K, let me tell you that.
                      I sure hope we can pull of a good shadow mod with the ENB Series this time around. :wink:

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                      • HOLLIDAY1183
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 459

                        #41
                        Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

                        Originally posted by shadio5
                        Hey holiday we seem to be thinking the same because im also gonna roll with the MSI 560 Ti. Let me ask, do you install it yourself? Are there tutorials on how to do this....never in my time on earth have i went into a computer....

                        VC/2k sports fan
                        Yeah you can certainly do it yourself. Without experience, as I was (a complete noob at PC modding stuff, but very "Google-savvy"), it can definitely seem overwhelming. First thing I did was open up my PC case, grab the manual, installation instructions, and my tablet with youtube open, another tab for general searching. LOL I was definitely scared.

                        Fortunately a few buddies of mine were also available to help. To be honest though, I've been home for almost 4 hours, and am JUST NOW getting done plugging everything back in, hiding wires, etc. But I'm the type that I'd rather be as careful as possible and get as much guidance as possible from experts.

                        Plus, I know I'm going to be doing this in the future, so I have to start somewhere and just keep learning. Pretty cool stuff though. About to boot up NBA2K12 with this baby and this amazing Ult. Base Roster and see what this thing is made of.

                        But yeah, every "knowledgeable" rep in the store was unanimous in recommending either the 550 Ti or the 560 Ti by Nvidia. Luckily the 560 was on sale for only $20 more than the 550 so I went with that.
                        NOW PLAYING:
                        NBA 2K16, MGS5

                        WAITING FOR:
                        Fallout 4

                        Wife: "Of course he's going out to get his 2K game at 12am, like he can't wait til tomorrow."
                        Wife's mom: "Be grateful that's what he's running out at midnight for."

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                        • HOLLIDAY1183
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 459

                          #42
                          Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

                          Wow.

                          I've played it on max settings for about 10-15 minutes now, and all I'm gonna say is, wow. Pure silk.
                          NOW PLAYING:
                          NBA 2K16, MGS5

                          WAITING FOR:
                          Fallout 4

                          Wife: "Of course he's going out to get his 2K game at 12am, like he can't wait til tomorrow."
                          Wife's mom: "Be grateful that's what he's running out at midnight for."

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                          • Leftos
                            NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1255

                            #43
                            Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

                            I saw people mentioning and asking about shadow mods and the Ultimate Base Roster, so let me give you some background information:

                            1) Shadow mods depend on hex-editing the global.iff file, finding the shaders, and messing around with their values until you get the desired result. My Global Editor tool which was based on the research by tatlopuyo and seanjohn1414 from the NLSC Forum, allowed pretty much everyone to create their own shadow mod with no hex-editing knowledge, and to apply others' shadow mods to whatever global they preferred. So, as long as there are people messing around with the shaders' values again this year and doing their research, we should have shadow mods earlier than ever this year. Compared to 2K9-2K11, shadow mod editing is no longer something only "an elite few" know how to do. The information about editing and creating shadow mods is public domain, which means the whole community can work on stuff like that right away, as long as there's people willing. Global Editor will receive some much requested upgrades this season, and it will allow even more impressive stuff that last year was only available via manually hex-editing the file.

                            2) The Ultimate Base Roster is such a big, all-around mod, that I can't promise it coming out any time near the release of the game. As long as the team behind it is enthusiastic about 2K13 and continue their work, with the experience HAWK23 and the rest of the guys got during 2K12, it should be coming out much faster than last year. Again, this all depends on many factors such as:
                            - How long it'll take to reverse-engineer the roster. Such big roster projects require a proper roster editing tool, and the only one that can do the job is REDitor, so it all depends on how much free time Vlad (the creator) has, how much help he receives, and how much the roster structure has changed since last year (signature skills are one thing, who knows what else?).
                            - How long it'll take to unpack and be able to edit art assets. When the game first comes out, we have to determine whether last year's tools such as the Decompressor, the ModTool, etc. work on the new version. If they don't, we either have to wait for the people that made them to update them (and since they're closed-source tools, we can't help much), or we can try to create our own tools.

                            Since I believe in community effort and open-source, whatever tool I attempt to make, be it a basic roster editor, an upgraded global editor, a voice-enabled macro tool, an asset decompressor, I'll make sure to keep it open-source, so that everyone in the community with programming and/or reverse-engineering knowledge will have direct access to the tool's code and be able to help get them done and out for the community quicker.

                            Whatever progress we make, you'll see it right when it's made over at the NLSC Forum, but I'll remain an active member here as well, keeping you updated on all the magic we'll be doing with 2K13.
                            Eleftherios "Leftos" Aslanoglou
                            NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                            Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
                            Novato, CA, USA

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                            • miraiii
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 62

                              #44
                              Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

                              Hey guys,

                              its me again...i got my copy on 360 early...still waiting on my pc preorder to show up....but regardless...im kinda bummed now that i played the whole game (i.e. being able to use instant replay): the collision is this game are not exactly great...while there are no torsos going through torsos anymore, hands are still going through heads etc. on a pretty regular basis...and even more shockingly...the is ball pass morphing: the cpu tried to do a layup on me and then decided to pass and an suddenly the ball was "beam" from one play to another...

                              is there a way to fix those issues on pc? I was really hyped after playing the demo...but i can only tell you to curb your enthusiam if you are as hyped for 2k13 as i was...instant replay shows this games flaws the hard way...

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                              • Leftos
                                NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 1255

                                #45
                                Re: whats the benefits of playing nba 2k on pc vs console?

                                miraiii, there have been gameplay mods, but they're the weirdest kind of reverse engineering I've seen, since they edit values directly in the game's EXE. I guess the person doing them knows where about to look, or has all the free time in the world. :P In any case, they were really helpful in improving some gameplay issues such as the speed of animations, but I don't think that anything can be done about 2K13's collision detection. That's part of the engine, and unless they give us access to its parameters and variables (neeeeeever gonna happen), it'll be up to 2K to optimize that.

                                It's their first year trying out something like that, so there's bound to be glitches. Anybody that played FIFA 11 or Madden 13 knows what the first year of your attempt at RTP ends up looking like.

                                It's a good start if it looks nice and plays nice in gameplay though, and it should be even better in 2K14.
                                Eleftherios "Leftos" Aslanoglou
                                NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                                Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
                                Novato, CA, USA

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