Why can't EA make Live games Look Realistic?

[Lebron 4 MVP]

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...and you've just basically shown your true colors.

Just a little FYI, that name of the company on the game case doesn't mean SQUAT to anyone who really wants the best game out there. You're "happy" MVP is gone? How can you say that, then denounce those who have the nerve to say the same about ESPN NFL? You're going to sit there and not say that "Da Association" was an outright JOKE of a Franchise? How NBA 2k5 wasn't the first GOOD game in a long line of poor games from that series since 2k2?

Just b/c ESPN 2k5 was the shiznet doesn't make the entire company god-like. If you look at (IMO) the best games out there for each sport, you'd see it's a lot closer than you think:
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Baseball - MVP
Football - ESPN 2k5, NCAA '06(TIE)
Basketball - ESPN College Hoops
Hockey - I really don't care about hockey games unless it's NHL 2002 on PC
Soccer - I didn't like WE, so I will give FIFA another chance
Boxing - FN Rd 2 duh
Golf - Tiger Woods unless Links is good there's no dethroning it.
Tennis Topspin

Of those games, we see Konami, 989, EA, and 2k. Screw the label on the game, man. Until you rise above that, you're no better than these "fanboys" you mention...

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[luv_mist]

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Definitely feeling the love in this thread. I am seriously wondering how well the next-gen games will be for EA and 2K. By the way, I am not really feeling Right Night Rn 2 because it's too arcadish. The graphics are alright but it gets real repetitive and dry after a few fights. Not to mention the imbalance. The graphics are nice and I won't deny that. That's just my two cents. The rest, I don't have money or experience to really give thoughts.

[BoLo]

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^ You couldnt be more wrong about NFL 2k5...Have you played the game sir ? Do you realize how fluid the jukes are, the stutter steps and acceleration ? The DEFENSIVE TAckling, it has nothing at all on madden. In madden you dont even wrap a guy up to tackle. You dive all herky jerky and he falls.

Yes I have played all of the 2k games (I stated that earlier in this thread), in fact I was won over by the 2k series of games when they first came out on the Dreamcast, they looked and played really well, however as far as the animations and fluid movement goes they were pretty stiff and unrealistic and have not changed very much (little add-ons here and there, pretty much the same thing that VC fanboys accuse EA of doing with Madden and Live, don't be fooled though cause VC does the same exact thing, they just hide it a lot better than EA does.) I mean take ESPN NFL2K5 for instance, the running animation is not as good as everyone makes it out to be, it looks too stiff as if the guy is constapated or something. Madden is not perfect but as far as animations go it looks more realistic and fluid, and I'm talking about the actual animation and movement of the players on the screen not the representation of the players and the amount of sweat on their faces and body and how pretty they all look, and yes they do look good and a lot better than EA's representation, however EA focuses more on the movements that a real person can and does make while in transition and running up the court or the field or the base path, noted that people or gonna say "well how come in Live on a fastbreak they have to stop to catch the pass while in NBA2k you can lead the player in which you are passing to on the fastbreak" which is a good point and that is one thing that Live needs to work on, however in NBA2k when you make the lead pass the movement of that players continues to the ball no matter what even if a defender is in front of him he keeps going and runs in to the defender and keeps going till he catches the pass (that does not happen in real life). In closing the animations in EA are better than those in the 2k/ESPN series of games, but the graphics and images are better rendered and more detailed in the 2k/ESPN series than they are in EA games.

[Gilateen]

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failed english huh?

[RoyalBoyle78]

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if you mean NCAA March Madness yes...and MVP really isn't that great either.....I don't see why people like it...and I'm glad its gone. NCAA Football '06 is a fun football game when playing against a friend. As a single player game its boring after the 3rd or 4th Game....Like I said...I use to love EA Sports until they took consumers for granted and started keeping everything the same and using gimmicks to keep people purchasing....I don't respect that in the company. Some of us were smart enough to lure away to find a new home with the 2k series..and even with minor faults to their games...at least they improve every year..without all the flash and gimmicks..so I stand by my words. Also anyone who respects a company that will buy up the market to elimated competition are wrong anyway.....takes away our options of choice...and makes the market a bore....

Think about it....They can make madden crappy every year along with NCAA Football...and get away with it...because if you have only one choice, then your going to purchase anyway...Thank goodness no NBA Rights...because Live is a disappointment every year.....and yes small minded people don't look at the aspect of the sport to the fullest if they can honestly tell me live looks great this year. Reminds you of Konami's Run N Gun....

They should name it: NBA Midgets Gone Wild: Freestyle Edition By, EA Sports!

New Modo: EA Sports Never Change Anything! Its in the Name, But not our Games!

P.S. I said that phrase was said by small minded people...I didn't say all EA Fan boys were small minded....Some of them bought both games every year....because they were learning there was sunshine on the other side of the road.

Thats your opinion and thats cool, but MVP 05 in my eyes is the best most sinlge sports title around, I don't think I wanna give up my xbox, I wanna keep playing MVP and because we won't have another MVP for awhile, 2k will never get baseball right IMO. First off there is NO true sim in any game on the market and never will be, "why you ask" cause it's a freakin VIDEO GAME not REAL LIFE. I think some of you wan't these games to be so close to real life, that you forget your playing a freain game, I like 2Ksports/EA, and I always liked 2K's Football/NBA games over EA, every year infact going back to the dreamcast days, please don't sit there and say 2K has thrown gimmicks at us before, they are just as bad as EA.

2k Gimmicks
ESPN NFL 2k- First person football= Gimmick
ESPN NBA 2k- The association= Gimmick
ESPN MLB- First Person Baseball

Like I said both company's have thrown Gimmicks our way, and since you think that T2/2ksports is so honest and has never thrown gimmicks at us, I just posted them to refresh your mind

[RoyalBoyle78]

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See the company is an issue people need to stop defending them...also the association in the NBA 2k5 was a joke....I never denied that...I said 2k does have minor flaws and true enough I still play 2k2 NBA...because the gameplay is more loose...even though the graphics are mediocre now...off all your above choices the only one I disagree with is MVP. As far as the rest you are right....Football I agree, only reason NCAA is considered is because VC never tried again after 2k3. Basketball hands down College Hoops Owned! Hockey totally agree again..I even got Gretzky on my PSP. Winning Eleven over Fifa...again I agree..FN Round 2..again I agree, but only because its the only choice. I mean really who's going to play Mike Tyson boxing..lol..and Golf Tiger woods owns...The Golf game Microsoft made was actually ok too...But yeah again...lack of Competition makes it a winner...

you are to funny, the first line you start off saying is "See the company is an issue people need to stop defending them" but in the end the only games you agreed with him on that list were made by the 2k brand, come on dude...

[Behindshadows]

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you are to funny, the first line you start off saying is "See the company is an issue people need to stop defending them" but in the end the only games you agreed with him on that list were made by the 2k brand, come on dude...

whats funny is you weren't following the full conversation...I was talking about the flaw EA games not 2k...I admitted that NBA 2k5 has its flaws but isn't as bad as Live...keep up buddy....also...2k improves every year..and EA just gimmicks its way to another $50 out of the public...and I'm just trying to kick some knowledge for people to stop defending their methods. But the world is brainwashed on EA and they can do no wrong...

[BoLo]

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failed english huh?

To whom are you referring?

[Ofizzle]

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Graphics aren't bad as to where you can't see what's going on one the court, but the definately are not "good". I agree with someone who was saying that 2004, and even 2003 had better personalization and player models than 2005 and likely 2006.

[id0l1zed]

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the graphics arent as horrible as you guys make them out to be. i mean sure they are compared to some elite games but they are better than Madden IMO. at least you can tell who everyone is and they look way better in '06 than 05 which were horrible (stick figures) even though 2006 resembles 2005.. they are more polished.

[Pared]

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Why? No reason for it, aside from comments useless to the argument. GJ.

[Pared]

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whats funny is you weren't following the full conversation...I was talking about the flaw EA games not 2k...I admitted that NBA 2k5 has its flaws but isn't as bad as Live...keep up buddy....also...2k improves every year..and EA just gimmicks its way to another $50 out of the public...and I'm just trying to kick some knowledge for people to stop defending their methods. But the world is brainwashed on EA and they can do no wrong...

I guess this is a great mentality to have, but, IMO, you're just as brainwashed as the world you mention. Again, the label has nothing to do with it. According to your logic, EA always throws in a gimmick so it's not worth dropping $50.

So?

Don't buy it.

Simple enough.

As hard as it is to believe, some actually enjoy games released by EA, which I've noted, yet you have a reason why people would like them. Note, none of those reasons are that they are actually *GOOD* games.

People have different tastes. Get over it. AGAIN, until you can see past the brand, you're no different.

[Behindshadows]

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I guess this is a great mentality to have, but, IMO, you're just as brainwashed as the world you mention. Again, the label has nothing to do with it. According to your logic, EA always throws in a gimmick so it's not worth dropping $50.

So?

Don't buy it.

Simple enough.

As hard as it is to believe, some actually enjoy games released by EA, which I've noted, yet you have a reason why people would like them. Note, none of those reasons are that they are actually *GOOD* games.

People have different tastes. Get over it. AGAIN, until you can see past the brand, you're no different.

Again you assume...if that is the case...why do I own every EA game up til the 2002's from the Sega Genesis, SNES to PS2. Also I purchased Live 2005 just for the all-star weekend to see what was all the hype. It sucked after about a day or two. I own NCAA Football 2005 and 06 in which I had a week before the retail stores did. So don't give me that b.s that I'm hating EA! I'm just stating that it is time to stop defending their methods. And I'm not a 2k Fan boy...but you are just swinging on EA's n..... instead of acknowledging the facts of what they do to the Video Game Sports industry. They are not evolving, they are only pulling the wool over your eyes and throwing shiny stones to get your attention.....Other companies. 989's MLB and The 2k series give you Diamond wrapped in regular boxes.....

[BoLo]

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Again you assume...if that is the case...why do I own every EA game up til the 2002's from the Sega Genesis, SNES to PS2. Also I purchased Live 2005 just for the all-star weekend to see what was all the hype. It sucked after about a day or two. I own NCAA Football 2005 and 06 in which I had a week before the retail stores did. So don't give me that b.s that I'm hating EA! I'm just stating that it is time to stop defending their methods. And I'm not a 2k Fan boy...but you are just swinging on EA's n..... instead of acknowledging the facts of what they do to the Video Game Sports industry. They are not evolving, they are only pulling the wool over your eyes and throwing shiny stones to get your attention.....Other companies. 989's MLB and The 2k series give you Diamond wrapped in regular boxes.....

You remind me of the guy in the last crusade, grabbing the shiniest cup thinking it was the holy grail...compared to Mr. Jones picking up the dullest cup on the mantle....and tasting the true blood of existence....EA is that shiny cup and 2k is that dull cup that gives you the true experience at the game....I'm done my point will never be made....

Well you alomost defended yourself pretty well up until the last sentence of your first paragraph, and your little analogy in the second paragraph. Can you really compare 2K to drinking the eternal blood of Christ? I believe that you have made 2K your God and you're letting it rape you of all your positive energy and turning you into what you claim all of us to be, sure I love Madden, Live, and MVP and a lot of other games that EA has made, but I am not about to compare EA to the holy grail, that's pretty sad actually.

You know who you remind me of from the last crusade? A Nazi, and 2K is your Hitler. You claim that we are being brain washed and fooled by EA to buy and love their games, but I believe this thread was started by a person who asks the question "Why can't EA make Live games look realistic" not someone claiming that "EA makes the most realistic looking games in the world". So some people give their opinions on the subject and you rush right in and you don't ask them what their opinion is you tell them what their opinion is, and then you belittle anyone who enjoys EA games and you have in turn song the praises of 2K. Next time before you start off jumping into an conversation; make sure that you're not gonna make yourself a perfect example of what you claim others to be.

That's my word, and I'm out!

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Now this thread is going to far.