Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

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  • poster
    All Star
    • Nov 2003
    • 7506

    #16
    Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

    Well they added a bunch of plays which is good, but what differentiates the teams? Will each team use different plays? If each team has an offensive scorer playmaker(like Kobe vs Iverson for example), will each team just run the same plays because it has a "scorer type player". It is still confusing. Each team should have certain plays to use. I understand that some teams could run the same stuff, but its still not team specific unless I am missing something. Steve's Q & A should shed some light hopefully.

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    • rawdog805
      MVP
      • Dec 2002
      • 2788

      #17
      Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

      Originally posted by tonkatsu
      actually, looks like they dont. i mean each team doesnt have individual playbooks, instead, all teams have the same playbooks. it just seems that the teams will use the plays which suit their personnel, like the live producer said. but speaking of "individual and unique playbooks" per team,..not this year i guess

      however, looks like they have much better plays this year than last, so changing
      the offensive strategy/playsets of the cpu will probably be more effective this year. still a hassle though

      i guess we need to get more info/vids on how the teams play with their default playbooks..
      btw, im liking the defensive strategies! looks like they added more options per strategy, like different options for full court press, etc
      did you not see the play that was specific for rip hamilton in there??

      think it was called RIP iso??
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      • tonkatsu
        Rookie
        • Jan 2004
        • 62

        #18
        Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

        Originally posted by rawdog805
        did you not see the play that was specific for rip hamilton in there??

        think it was called RIP iso??
        yah i did, what i meant was, looks like all the other teams will have RIP iso as well, just as Detroit has Cavalier, Boston, Rocket fuel, etc..

        initially i thought that each team would have "unique" playsets, that no other team can access. but now that i think of it, i guess its good cos it gives us more flexibility offensively to be able to choose from all the plays in the game.

        hopefully the computer uses the right plays for their teams. that, we will have to wait and see

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #19
          Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

          Generic. I dont think EA cares for authentic playbooks. My next question is, if you activate the playbooks, will it make the fast breaks non existant?

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #20
            Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

            Originally posted by tonkatsu
            yah i did, what i meant was, looks like all the other teams will have RIP iso as well, just as Detroit has Cavalier, Boston, Rocket fuel, etc..

            initially i thought that each team would have "unique" playsets, that no other team can access. but now that i think of it, i guess its good cos it gives us more flexibility offensively to be able to choose from all the plays in the game.

            hopefully the computer uses the right plays for their teams. that, we will have to wait and see
            Exactly, I want flexibility. If the Pistons trade Rip for Larry Hughes, I dont want them to still run the RIP ISO play. One thing that I love about Live is that you can choose the playsets for the computer's team also.

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            • kirkangil
              Pro
              • May 2003
              • 985

              #21
              Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

              Hey at least the play diagrams are back.

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              • RubenDouglas
                Hall Of Fame
                • May 2003
                • 11202

                #22
                Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

                what was the playbook/fastbreak bug last year? can anyone go indepth on that?

                wasnt it involved with changing TEAM STRATEGY, and not playbooks/calls?

                As in changing the strategy from SHOOTER A to something else... i think last year, anytime you changed that,for HUMAN or CPU, it messed up fastbreaking. If its in, its allllllllmost a gamekiller for me.
                Last edited by RubenDouglas; 09-16-2005, 02:22 PM.

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #23
                  Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

                  Originally posted by RubenDouglas
                  what was the playbook/fastbreak bug last year? can anyone go indepth on that?

                  wasnt it involved with changing TEAM STRATEGY, and not playbooks/calls?
                  It involved changing the team strategy. When you changed it from Dynamic, it affected the way fast breaks could be run. I'm hoping it wont be a problem this year because it is now possible to run fast breaks.

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                  • RubenDouglas
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • May 2003
                    • 11202

                    #24
                    Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    It involved changing the team strategy. When you changed it from Dynamic, it affected the way fast breaks could be run. I'm hoping it wont be a problem this year because it is now possible to run fast breaks.
                    well looking at the screen i posted, that steve screencapped, its set initially at shooter A (i think), so its no longer in that dynamic/generic mode... correct me if im wrong, but maybe the team strategies are already preset?

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                    • sirjam
                      MVP
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 3535

                      #25
                      Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

                      Originally posted by RubenDouglas
                      well looking at the screen i posted, that steve screencapped, its set initially at shooter A (i think), so its no longer in that dynamic/generic mode... correct me if im wrong, but maybe the team strategies are already preset?
                      I think that's correct. Also people are saying that teams have the same plays. Ex the screens show Det having Rocket Fuel, Cavalier etc. Its just a hunch but its probably an option to have teams run all plays or run specefic plays like Madden does. There is a option in Madden and other games to run teams playbooks or all plays in the playbook. So I think the guy playing had the option on all plays and was just showing us that there are team specific plays in the game. If not so what in real life teams know each others plays and how to run them they just don't cause they don't have the personall to run them. I hope you guys understand what I am trying to say. Looks like its shaping up to be a nice game to me.

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                      • RubenDouglas
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • May 2003
                        • 11202

                        #26
                        Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

                        actually sirjam, I think the playbooks are only HUMAN/user based and have no relivance with the CPU calling "only those 4 plays that are on the digital pad".

                        Instead, we, the user, have a choice between all those plays to call what we want.

                        In regards to CPU play, I think it totally depends on the internal AI of the game and its coding. The only "difference" makers are changing around the STRATEGIES of the cpu before game.

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #27
                          Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

                          Originally posted by RubenDouglas
                          well looking at the screen i posted, that steve screencapped, its set initially at shooter A (i think), so its no longer in that dynamic/generic mode... correct me if im wrong, but maybe the team strategies are already preset?
                          the team strategies are preset but the good thing about Live is that you can change the strategies for the cpu. You cant do that on any other game.

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                          • sirjam
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 3535

                            #28
                            Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

                            Originally posted by RubenDouglas
                            actually sirjam, I think the playbooks are only HUMAN/user based and have no relivance with the CPU calling "only those 4 plays that are on the digital pad".

                            Instead, we, the user, have a choice between all those plays to call what we want.

                            In regards to CPU play, I think it totally depends on the internal AI of the game and its coding. The only "difference" makers are changing around the STRATEGIES of the cpu before game.
                            I didn't say anything about the cpu. I was saying that we as users may be able to use a all plays in the playbook option or use team specific playbooks.

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                            • RubenDouglas
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • May 2003
                              • 11202

                              #29
                              Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

                              Originally posted by sirjam
                              I didn't say anything about the cpu. I was saying that we as users may be able to use a all plays in the playbook option or use team specific playbooks.
                              ahhh. misunderstood ya there. sadly, its never been an option before, kinda doubt it would be in there this year.

                              it would, of course, be a great small addition. Even a CPU "use team speicific playbook or all plays" option

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                              • sirjam
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 3535

                                #30
                                Re: Is there evidence of real play sets for each team yet?

                                Originally posted by RubenDouglas
                                ahhh. misunderstood ya there. sadly, its never been an option before, kinda doubt it would be in there this year.

                                it would, of course, be a great small addition. Even a CPU "use team speicific playbook or all plays" option
                                I know. Its just my wishful thinking.

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