IGN Review......9.0

[LIGHTNING]

Re: IGN Review......9.0

It is possible that the stealing issue can not be fixed with sliders because it may be hard coded. This may explain why the reviewer did not mention sliders.

[aholbert32]

Re: IGN Review......9.0

It is possible that the stealing issue can not be fixed with sliders because it may be hard coded. This may explain why the reviewer did not mention sliders.

Its possible. Its just strange that two other OSers played the game and never mentioned that being an issue. Steve hasnt mentioned it either.

[Playmakers]

Re: IGN Review......9.0

It is possible that the stealing issue can not be fixed with sliders because it may be hard coded. This may explain why the reviewer did not mention sliders.

You can really tone down steals in Live with sliders. The only problem is you loose a few animations that would normally see inside the paint like when guy's would get stripped going up for a shot. You'll still see the animations but not as much if the slider was set high.

[ludacris06]

Re: IGN Review......9.0

"I was able to force 20 steals on Superstar difficulty as Stephon Marbury during a game with five minute quarters -- so while the Superstar moves add the realism of individuality to the court, don't expect to play any realistic type of basketball game here. Sure, you can call plays and players act more realistically than in the past, but this is far from a basketball simulation. As a videogame, it's extremely fun and addicting, especially playing two-players, but if you're looking for a true sim, you're looking in the wrong place. There are way too many blocks, way too many steals to mirror anything close to a real game. There are also times at the end of contests where the computer will have a player like LeBron, but you wind up watching Eric Snow take all the shots. To its credit, the AI does call more plays against you, their clock management in terms of timeouts and intentional fouls at the end of games is great, and you can see players running around screens, even pushing off from defenders in hopes of getting the ball. But in the end, while the game is as close to a sim as the Live series has ever been, it's still far from the days of Inside Drive in terms of pacing and that true-to-life NBA feel."


Nuff said. I'm not buying it because online cheesing is going to be a hassle this year. Also, I'm not really a slider guy, so I'm just going to buy the game that's more sim, whcih I believe is 2k6 from what I've seen. I wan't to make the least amount of tweaks as possible.

[Tha_Kid]

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I understand EA's game and how it is setup to play at DEFAULT level so I'm not upset that the guy did his job without touching sliders.

He was playing on SUPERSTAR, which if im not mistaken is the highest difficulty level...

[RoyalBoyle78]

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Nope but they will make the gameplay freaking outstanding.

In fact the skating issue is way over blown becuase it didn't stand out as much as guy's complianed last year. I just think some guy's need an excuse to find something wrong with every game. Onec people realize these games are not going to be perfect and they are are what they are video games then maybe things cna be put into better focus.

But hey I would say why even bother renting or buying the game when most guy's already know they only want to find something to complain about or bitch about if it isn't perfect. Just save your money and don't put yourself through the hassle. If you already skating exist then you already know the game isn't going to satisfy you.

But I know guy's like Sirjam and Nyjrock understand how NBA Live operates and they can assure you Sliders make Live brilliant. But if the skating is the biggest problem and people can't forgive the problem then they more likely won't enjoy the oustanding gameplay once the sliders are setup.

I hear you Playmaker, I don't mean this to sound bad, but when EA always drops and game and somebody has issues with the game, or there is a problem that EA doesn't care to fix, It always seems like you give the excuse on why they didn't fix it, or why it's not a big deal. When in fact, the skating should have been fixed a by now, thats the bottom line. This has been an on going problem with live the past few years, and EA knew about and it should have been fixed, there is no excuse for this issue not being fixed.

[Ofizzle]

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The only problem I have is that the guys reviewing here, and even people on other sites never complained about this. Even out of the box on All-Star or Superstar, I haven't heard anyone say this yes, so I don't know? I know most of the guys on the review sites aren't that good at playing the game, so it's not a big deal if he's had the steal sliders very high.

Even with that, something like blocks and steals is not a big deal since their's sliders, so it's not even close to being something that makes me not buy the game.

[sleepytercel]

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I don't play Live, nor have I given it a thought, but in support here, maybe EA had the balls to allow you to turn off this new superstar freestyle, as it sounds like it may be more of a problem than a good feature. I'm assumming that sliders may not solve these issues because it was reported to be in cause of this new feature. It doesn't help that he was playing on the hardest difficulty and still able to accomplish this task.

As for the PSM review, it's useless for both games. Neither game was finished when the reviews were written, and neither review gave us information that we couldn't jot down with what we already know about both games.

The IGN review, right now, is the most accurate review because at least, finally, we got an idea of actual gameplay.

[Playmakers]

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He was playing on SUPERSTAR, which if im not mistaken is the highest difficulty level...

I'm not talking about Skill Level's for gameplay. I'm refering to the DEFAULT settings in the game with sliders. EA always ships their games with sliders already set and they normally are setup to make gameply easier for casual players.

You have to tweak them on each Gameplay Level to make it better. It's like Madden and MVP even on the Highest Level's you still have to tweak sliders from the settings that EA has inputed.

[Tha_Kid]

Re: IGN Review......9.0

I'm not talking about Skill Level's for gameplay. I'm refering to the DEFAULT settings in the game with sliders. EA always ships their games with sliders already set and they normally are setup to make gameply easier for casual players.

You have to tweak them on each Gameplay Level to make it better. It's like Madden and MVP even on the Highest Level's you still have to tweak sliders from the settings that EA has inputed.

ahh..

regardless, though ive tried (bought 03 & 05) to like Live but I think I fit into that category of "people who still wouldnt like it after the sliders" because the of the "feel" of the game, which IMO is heavily attributed to the sliding...

[Playmakers]

Re: IGN Review......9.0

I hear you Playmaker, I don't mean this to sound bad, but when EA always drops and game and somebody has issues with the game, or there is a problem that EA doesn't care to fix, It always seems like you give the excuse on why they didn't fix it, or why it's not a big deal. When in fact, the skating should have been fixed a by now, thats the bottom line. This has been an on going problem with live the past few years, and EA knew about and it should have been fixed, there is no excuse for this issue not being fixed.

I'm not giving an excuse for the issue. I'm simply saying that guy's keep complaining about this aspect and if you already know it's a problem for you gameplay wise then why bother renting or buying the game?

You already know (not you personally) that it's an issue you can't have so why spend your money?

It doesn't ruin the game for me simply because I don't see it as much as others seem to complain about it. Everyone assumes that EA should have fixed it by now but who's to say that it is done on purpose by EA simply because it factors into their gameplay engine overall. In fact if I can recall I think a EA spokesperson did mention something about this issue still being in the game simply because it helps their gameplay. Maybe other games use a different engine and guy's like that engine but EA uses their own style and if I'm correct the skating people are talking about has always been in the game recently simply because it's done for a reason by EA.

I will have to go back and research that information but I specifically recall them stating the reason why it's there having something to do with their gameplay. So, my point is if guy's know they aren't going to accept this part of the game then why bother purchasing it or renting it in the first place. I'm not joking when I say this part of the game doesn't bother me simply because when I'm playing I don't notice it as much as other guy's. It's like the comeback AI in Madden that guy's complain about every year. I simply play the game and don't notice these things. The gameplay in my opinion is very good so I tend to not focus on spending any part of the game looking to see if a player was skating on the court.

I also get the feeling that most guy's will use this topic as an issue to say Live isn't very good simply because they see players skate on the court. It happens every year and it's sad simply because they purchase a game just to dissect negative parts of a game as if to influence or pursaude others not to buy it. I've stated before there will never be a perfect sports game. At some point people have to realize regardless if it's EA, VC or 989 that these games aren't going to stray to far away from their roots. So, if it's something about the game that you didn't like the past few years most likely any new version on the current consoles aren't going to change your mind. Basically, if skating was an issue 3-4 years ago and you didn't like it then chances are you won't like it now either.

[ballerzinc]

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Playmaker thanks so much for making sliders for Live. Your Madden and NCAA sliders made those games for me. You understand the ins and outs of these games and put down formulas for all skill levels. I can't wait for these man.

[Playmakers]

Re: IGN Review......9.0

Playmaker thanks so much for making sliders for Live. Your Madden and NCAA sliders made those games for me. You understand the ins and outs of these games and put down formulas for all skill levels. I can't wait for these man.

Thanks man.

But what I'm trying to find out is where did everyone get this information that the game was being released saturday?

I called FRY's and Gamecrazy and they said next week...

[BigTigLSU]

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You can really tone down steals in Live with sliders. The only problem is you loose a few animations that would normally see inside the paint like when guy's would get stripped going up for a shot. You'll still see the animations but not as much if the slider was set high.

It kills online play though....

[ballerzinc]

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Thanks man.

But what I'm trying to find out is where did everyone get this information that the game was being released saturday?

I called FRY's and Gamecrazy and they said next week...

Do you think that's why the IGN Review was put up today, EA gave them the ok because the game would be released. I sure hope so.