IGN Review......9.0

[pietasterp]

Re: IGN Review......9.0

Just my 2-cents: in general (not specifically referring to this Live review or any review in particular), I more or less ignore ign or any other mainstream gaming site's sports games reviews. They aren't sports gamers in the way that people here are, and they review games from a different angle than people here do. Oftentimes, these guys are under editor pressure to get a review out by a deadline, and so they jam in 6 hours or so with the game and bang out a review. The reviewer may or may not even be a big-time hoops/football/whatever fan - he's just the schlub they picked to review the game that month. I don't doubt that they pick someone who at least has some knowledge of the sport, but do they watch 100+ games a year? Do they really focus on the nuance that makes a sports game fun over the course of an entire year? Absolutely not - they probably never play the game again after they review it, because they have 20 other games to review over the next few months.

Ultimately, every review is just some dude's opinion, but I'd at least like that dude to be someone who expects realism from their sports games and intends to play through an entire season (or 4) to really get down and dirty with all the game's successes and flaws over the long haul. Some games are great when you play them for 2-3 hours...and then after a few days you can't stand the thing anymore, because all the flaws you didn't realize when you were just trying to figure out how to shoot the ball rear their ugly head. I think the reviews on here and some other trustworthy sports gaming info sources are really more in-tune with how we as sports gamers will feel about a product, but again, it's ultimately all just someone's opinion...

[Court_vision]

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well, most of the complaints such as too many STEALS, BLOCKS, too many missed DUNKs, layups mmmmmmmmmmmight be fixed with sliders.. sadly, we're kind of left hanging because there was no mention of "tweaking" those sliders from Jon. So its either wait a week while everyone else plays, or buy.

What can;t be fixed with sliders is when a eric snow type player is taking all the big shots... thats not cool. thats like the only true negative in my book. the others , right now, are "possible fixes" and thus non worries

Agree on the sliding...it and the cameras are pretty bad.

Got no idea how they come up with Eric Snow taking all the shots...

I haven't played the Cavs...but Kobe, Mac, AI, TD all took big time shots when i played them.

Side note: Admiral and I have the PC version...I am presuming it's the same as the xbox in most regards.

[RubenDouglas]

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Side note: Admiral and I have the PC version...I am presuming it's the same as the xbox in most regards.

except it would receive a 10/10 on graphics and thus move its score to 9.5


good looking out..

[Admiral50]

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A NON REALISTIC bball game... and it still gets a 9.0/10.0?

Using the Outside Stopper steal moves, I was able to force 20 steals on Superstar difficulty as Stephon Marbury during a game with five minute quarters -- so while the Superstar moves add the realism of individuality to the court, don't expect to play any realistic type of basketball game here.

Now we all know we're EA's motivations are at. Casual guys... nothing wrong with that. but i wont take a word of what they have to say as the "truth" because from my perspective it could be very very wrong

Steals are fixed easily with sliders. I freaked when had 50 steals and 100 deflections in the first hour of play but sliders fixed it good.
Unlike 2K5's steal slider (and most others) that did next to nothing.

[Admiral50]

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Most unrealistic NBA game I've seen in a while gets a 9.0. Wow, what a joke. NBA Live looks like a dunkfest this year, not a buy from me.

Key word = 'seen'

Play the game and you'll see it's the most realistic Live has been for a long time. It's more realistic than the previous few 2K's also. I've had the game for 5 days now...

[Admiral50]

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Its possible. Its just strange that two other OSers played the game and never mentioned that being an issue. Steve hasnt mentioned it either.

I mentioned (either in my 'I have the game' thread or the sticky impressions thread) that there were steals and deflections everywhere and I am sure I also mentioned that sliders fixed them.

[Erv]

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I'll defenitely wait and see on this one. Just because sliders are there doesn't mean they do anything(ncaa catch slider is one of many examples)

[Ice Cream Truck]

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Oh no here we go agian with the SIM game stuff.

I'm not even going to beat a dead horse regarding this anymore. I'm just glad some of us know how to tweak aspects of a game to make it perform much better. Then again you have some guy's who sit back and expect changes to be made for them and those are usually the ones left out without enjoying the great aspects of any game that sliders and ratings can improve.

But overall I doubt we will see this great/perfect SIM game some posters keep waiting on to fall out the sky and I don't care who the developer happens to be making the game.

I'm sorry, I guess I should've finished my post. I ALWAYS use sliders, ALWAYS.

That's not going to fix how the players look and move. That's what is unrealistic to me. IMO, there will usually be sliders out there for most games that make the gameplay great. It's just the way it looks. No one can convince me that NBA players move like that.

EDIT: That's just me though, I know alot of people don't mind how the game actually LOOKS. As long as the stats come out right then they like it. IMO, I can get stats right in any game.

[lilvic]

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Kendall Gill (basketball player turned boxer) and Larry Kenon hold the record with 11. Using the Outside Stopper steal moves, I was able to force 20 steals on Superstar difficulty as Stephon Marbury during a game with five minute quarters -- so while the Superstar moves add the realism of individuality to the court, don't expect to play any realistic type of basketball game here. Sure, you can call plays and players act more realistically than in the past, but this is far from a basketball simulation. As a videogame, it's extremely fun and addicting, especially playing two-players, but if you're looking for a true sim, you're looking in the wrong place. There are way too many blocks, way too many steals to mirror anything close to a real game

LOL, IGN basically sh!tted on live's realism factor. reading that made up my mind that 2K6 will be the better game. i look for the most realistic bball game out and it looks like live isn't that game. live is what is wrong with bball fans today. everybody wants to only see fancy passes and flashy dunks. true bball heads go for the game thats plays more realistic and its starting to look like that ill be 2k6.

[Graphik]

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Before I speak, I'll let you guys know that I plan on getting both games.

With that said, I'm with PM and a few others who know for sure that this game can be fixed with sliders. As he's stated before, EA always ships its games out with an edge to more arcade aspects such as showing off the Superstar feature. Sliders will be the cure for the excessive blocks and steals the reviewer was reporting. I just wish that he mentioned it in his review because its misleading to report that the game is'nt sim but fail to mention that sliders can tune/fix the problem areas he seen. As for the Eric Snow comment, it does'nt really suprise me because live always has this thing of PGs taking over the game in the 4th so if you're a Live vet, you would know this already.

As for the skating issue, I know its a pain but what can you expect? Its been in Live since NBA Live exsisted. If you have'nt gotten over this aspect yet, you never will. I wish they would fix it already but skating is the least of my worries.

[lilvic]

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Sliders will be the cure for the excessive blocks and steals the reviewer was reporting. I just wish that he mentioned it in his review because its misleading to report that the game is'nt sim but fail to mention that sliders can tune/fix the problem areas he seen.

that is because basically, most of the live users or mainly folks who buy bball games, don't even touch the sliders. i got plently of friends with both games that didn't even know what sliders wore and could care less. true sim heads will play around with the sliders but the casual gamer will not even look at them. as for 2k6, the devloper stated that the game plays very realistic straight out the box. i'm just hoping he is right.

[Vince]

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as for 2k6, the devloper stated that the game plays very realistic straight out the box. i'm just hoping he is right.

That is never actually the case in any sports game, whether it be from 2k or EA.

[Graphik]

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that is because basically, most of the live users or mainly folks who buy bball games, don't even touch the sliders. i got plently of friends with both games that didn't even know what sliders wore and could care less. true sim heads will play around with the sliders but the casual gamer will not even look at them. as for 2k6, the devloper stated that the game plays very realistic straight out the box. i'm just hoping he is right.

Yea, the ppl I hang with dont mess with sliders all to much ethier. Its just that when you tell the masses that you can get 20 steals on the highest level but offer no explanation for a remedy, the score looks pretty misleading. How can a game where you can possibly get 20 steals and see to many blocks get a 9.0? I know even the most casual fan will have a problem with that. Steals and blocks that is.

[Graphik]

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That is never actually the case in any sports game, whether it be from 2k or EA.

I have never met a sports game I did'nt have to tweak in some way, shape or form.

[Tha_Kid]

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that is because basically, most of the live users or mainly folks who buy bball games, don't even touch the sliders. i got plently of friends with both games that didn't even know what sliders wore and could care less. true sim heads will play around with the sliders but the casual gamer will not even look at them. as for 2k6, the devloper stated that the game plays very realistic straight out the box. i'm just hoping he is right.

My king complaint. My friends buy Live and when we play im trying to play a real game and they'll be abusing the moves. for 9/10 players, upping the difficulty is the end of their tweaking. When I play aganst them and point out the things that are ridiculously fake, they just say its because i suck. nvm the fatigue being at zero .... but Im gonna stop posting on this because I know the skating is going to bother me too much to buy this. Some can't take 2k's lack of consistency, I can't take Live's skating...