IGN Review......9.0

[koolbubbaice]

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Don't argue with people like him...

He said in another post that Behind the Back passes and alley oops on fast breaks are Streetball.

Tell that to last years MVP and assit leader Steve Nash.

They are street ball moves.. Thats why guys like Nash don't do it frequently.. The Alley op has no place in pro basketball IMO..

[koolbubbaice]

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I love it how you simply stated 2K has problems but it isn't a game killer for you.

Well guess what maybe the sliding isn't a game killer for most Live players. It's like reverse pshychology. Well 2K's has problems but uhhhhh they don't ruin the game. Live has problems and they uhhhhhhh ruin the game....What ever will all you 2K fans please just leave the Live Forum NOW.

This has to be the silliest post I have witnessed. We can't enjoy Live because of gameplay flaws, yet 2K fans can still enjoy gameplay despite the game flaws......

Sigh.. The gameplay flaws are more apparant in live.. The awful sliding, abundance of blocks even with the sliders set to zero.. The forcefield..Bumping players out of bounds.. The live players aren't grounded & have no weight to them.. Sure, there are 2k5 gameplay issues that bother me, but they aren't game killers like in Live.. If that makes me a 2k5 fanboy or Live ***** so be it..

[Temple2k2]

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Forums crack me up. They are like some type of fraternity. If you say something bad about Live you are a 2K fanboy, same goes for 2K. I like both games. I admit I do not and probably will not ever mess with sliders. I didn't use sliders when I was playing Lakers vs. Celtics, Bulls vs. Lakers, NBA Showdown, Coach K etc. I think it's great that the sliders are there to give fans the opportunity to tweak games but I actually liked 2K right out the box last year. Maybe that's because I don't actually play the season modes but I think both games will ship with a fair amount of flaws. This whole thread has been 14 pages of the gospel on sliding and sliders. Incredible.

[stephenyoungchoi]

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Personally, the thing that gets me with the skating is how players handle the ball in general. I went back and looked at one of the OS Live vids. Guess it's not fair because it was CPU v. CPU, but it does look weird when you see a PG dribbling left, then just slide right or vice versa - I don't know, it's kinda hard to explain. I'd just like to see both games judged fairly - because right now, it seems people are overjoyed that Live is "fun", while I hear complaints with 2K on the level of "In real life Jason Kidd would've moved 1.3 ft closer to the basket in that situation at that time of the game". Like there are different expectations of both games.

I hear you on that one. It's like they see Iverson take only 2 shots in one 5 min. quarter in the OS vids and they cry the game is broke. I think 2k just set the bar really high for themselves and people expect a perfect nba 2k game each year. if 2k has any problems then the game sucks. If live has any problems, then they can be fixed with sliders, it's not that noticeable, or it doesn't bother me.
Both games will be good, it's just a matter of preference. Some people prefer lives style of play, some prefer 2ks style. We should just stop bashing both games and stick with what you like.
With that being said i truly think IMHO that 2k gets treated pretty unfairly, as in that every dribble in the game gets overly analyzed and criticized and people don't see the game as what it is, a very good game of basketball.....

[Vast]

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I love it how you simply stated 2K has problems but it isn't a game killer for you.

Well guess what maybe the sliding isn't a game killer for most Live players. It's like reverse pshychology. Well 2K's has problems but uhhhhh they don't ruin the game. Live has problems and they uhhhhhhh ruin the game....What ever will all you 2K fans please just leave the Live Forum NOW.

This has to be the silliest post I have witnessed. We can't enjoy Live because of gameplay flaws, yet 2K fans can still enjoy gameplay despite the game flaws......

Why are you getting so mad?? Im not telling you not to enjoy Live, you obviously are going to. Not once did i get mad at someone stating 2k6 flaws. But you have to admit that no other sport requires more stop and go movement than Basketball. And the slight feeling of playing on ice makes it real hard to accept the game as a true simulation regardless of how great the rest of the game is.

[Playmakers]

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Why are you getting so mad?? Im not telling you not to enjoy Live, you obviously are going to. Not once did i get mad at someone stating 2k6 flaws. But you have to admit that no other sport requires more stop and go movement than Basketball. And the slight feeling of playing on ice makes it real hard to accept the game as a true simulation regardless of how great the rest of the game is.

I'm not mad.

However, I'm getting tired of 2K guy's flooding the Live forum with the same silly comments every other post. I had several issues with 2K's game last year and the year before that yet you don't see me waisting time in the 2K forums telling people about those flaws that they know already exist.

Most Live players realize that sliding is in the game. This isn't anything new to them yet they still manage to enjoy and have fun with the game because like I mentioned before it's not a game killer. If it is to the 2K guy's so what who cares go play 2K and move on. Ea has their way and 2K has their own style.

I have yet to go to that forum and make post after post the flaws in that game. maybe I should take a stroll over there and express my opinion by the game over and over again just to see if people will get tired of reading the same crap. What really puzzles me is that 80% of the clowns posting aren't going to get Live yet they feel a need to tell NBA Live fans why they shouldn't get the game or enjoy the game. It's really starting to PISS me off now and only two guy's actually have the game in their hands to play. The rest are just posting B.S. without even playing the game.

That's like me saying well 2K has craziest B.S. this year so I'm not getting the game even though I haven't even played the game to determine what can be corrected and what can't after tweaking it. So, it's not about me getting mad. It's more about me getting annoyed with a bunch of guy's coming over here flooding threads with their own bias opinions. Who cares about what most of you think if your not getting the game. I said this once already I think some of you guy's just feed off of contraversey. Many of you serve no real purpose over here other than to stir up crap.

[Sarah]

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Skating and sliding is a game killer to me though because it is just wierd to look at. It's like NBA and NHL slap together, plus there is that thing that people tend to catch up on you during fast break or something at least ofline. The 2K series is not immune to bugs but is more bearable to deal with at least for me.

I guess the only way for EA to make people accept the skating is normal in thier game is to buy an exclusive licensed for NBA games, then just like Madden, people will have no choice but to save thier money. I know I did.

[Playmakers]

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Skating and sliding is a game killer to me though because it is just wierd to look at. It's like NBA and NHL slap together, plus there is that thing that people tend to catch up on you during fast break or something at least ofline. The 2K series is not immune to bugs but is more bearable to deal with at least for me.

I guess the only way for EA to make people accept the skating is normal in thier game is to buy an exclusive licensed for NBA games, then just like Madden, people will have no choice but to save thier money. I know I did.

I don't think EA really missed your $29.99 on Madden that much and I seriously doubt they will miss your $39.99 on Live either.

Enjoy the next 5 plus years without football though and good luck.

[WTF]

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Playmakers, are you getting the 360 version of Live? I'd like a chance to use your sliders, but I am not purchasing this version of Live for quite a few reasons. Hopefully, the 360 version will be more suited to me though.

Will

[Playmakers]

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Playmakers, are you getting the 360 version of Live? I'd like a chance to use your sliders, but I am not purchasing this version of Live for quite a few reasons. Hopefully, the 360 version will be more suited to me though.

Will

I'm definetly getting the 360 version. That game looks sick from what I've seen. The PS2 version will hold me over simply because I have to have an NBA game now. I'm a diehard B-Ball fan so even though it might not make sense to spend money on both versions I just have to play sooner than later.

[Bordeaux9196]

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Nobody is going to convince playmaker that Sliding and hyperfast speed does not belong in an NBA simulation. Why do you think hes obsessed with sliders? Cuz he loves the sliding in Live.

Hmmm, sounds like you have made up your mind then.

[Bordeaux9196]

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Skating and sliding is a game killer to me though because it is just wierd to look at. It's like NBA and NHL slap together, plus there is that thing that people tend to catch up on you during fast break or something at least ofline. The 2K series is not immune to bugs but is more bearable to deal with at least for me.

I guess the only way for EA to make people accept the skating is normal in thier game is to buy an exclusive licensed for NBA games, then just like Madden, people will have no choice but to save thier money. I know I did.

I've been playing live for years and the skating is there but you guys are obsessed. I've played the 2K NBA games too and except for the couple of Dreamcast versions, I just can't understand all the hype. You guys complain about the skating in Live but totally overlook the hunched over, caveman animations, over sized heads and really odd and unnatural jumpshots in NBA 2K. If you really claim to be a bb guru then you can't deny these things are in the 2K series and are just as much of a destraction as the skating in Live. I'm with playmaker on this one, you guys are coming off rather childish with regards to not getting Live this year. I'd say the same thing about someone over at the NBA 2K forums pronouncing they weren't getting NBA 2K6 because of the funky shot animations or big heads. I guess it comes with the territory when you get to be as big as EA, everyone is pulling for you to fail. Oh well, I degress. Hey playmaker, if you play online, lets get a game going!

[dano]

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Skating and sliding is a game killer to me though because it is just wierd to look at. It's like NBA and NHL slap together, plus there is that thing that people tend to catch up on you during fast break or something at least ofline. The 2K series is not immune to bugs but is more bearable to deal with at least for me.

I guess the only way for EA to make people accept the skating is normal in thier game is to buy an exclusive licensed for NBA games, then just like Madden, people will have no choice but to save thier money. I know I did.

For God's sake it is a video game. It will never be 100% perfect. I remember playing intellivision and thought it was fantastic. You could not even pass the ball in the air or hit a home run.

I think Madden is great with the right sliders. Last year i played live for a long time as well. I think the game gets better once you are about 5-6 seasons in so then you don't care that Kobe takes 40 shots a game.

[Leahmic223]

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I usually buy BOTH games...that is right BOTH games each year.

I have to admit...the sliding is unrealistic...PERIOD.
No matter what you say about simulation, I have never seen a PG dribble side to side around the whole perimeter like they do in Live. Just doesn't happen in real life.

But it is not a game killer, but for those wanting a 'NBA' feel. It kills the game for them.

If the ballhandler could dribble the ball that fast side to side in Real life, then they would always get past the defender because you are not at full speed in a defensive stance. But I have decided already and I am getting 2k tommorow and will get Live later.

2k IMO will be real simply because players have momentum. Defenders have to get the right position. If you play real B-Ball and you gaurd against a GREAT ballhandler. If you try to get too close to him he can easily go to your weak side and burn you...easily because of momentum. But if you keep space, pressure him when you need to you can slow him down.

That is the problem in Live...you can't slow your defenders down. So what they have those little bump animations, as soon as it is over with the players has the same speed as before which sucks.

Momentum is real, Live doesn't have it and it just feels different because of that.

Although Live last year was FUN...it was just more FUN and to me that is what it comes down to.

Also...if 2k6 has those stupid game killing bugs that VC somehow always miss...I will be severly pissed.

Just my 2 cents, every one likes a different game.

My neighbor plays B-Ball with me at Highschool, he likes Live and I like 2k more. You can't say "Just because you like Live/2k you are not a real B-ball fan." Because if you wasn't a B-ball fan you wouldn't shell out the full price the day it is released. And some of us try everything to get it earlier.

I am not a soccer fan or hockey fan, but I try to rent the games just to rent them...but I will probably never buy those games on the release date.

[Playmakers]

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I usually buy BOTH games...that is right BOTH games each year.

I have to admit...the sliding is unrealistic...PERIOD.
No matter what you say about simulation, I have never seen a PG dribble side to side around the whole perimeter like they do in Live. Just doesn't happen in real life.

But it is not a game killer, but for those wanting a 'NBA' feel. It kills the game for them.

If the ballhandler could dribble the ball that fast side to side in Real life, then they would always get past the defender because you are not at full speed in a defensive stance. But I have decided already and I am getting 2k tommorow and will get Live later.

2k IMO will be real simply because players have momentum. Defenders have to get the right position. If you play real B-Ball and you gaurd against a GREAT ballhandler. If you try to get too close to him he can easily go to your weak side and burn you...easily because of momentum. But if you keep space, pressure him when you need to you can slow him down.

That is the problem in Live...you can't slow your defenders down. So what they have those little bump animations, as soon as it is over with the players has the same speed as before which sucks.

Momentum is real, Live doesn't have it and it just feels different because of that.

Although Live last year was FUN...it was just more FUN and to me that is what it comes down to.

Also...if 2k6 has those stupid game killing bugs that VC somehow always miss...I will be severly pissed.

Just my 2 cents, every one likes a different game.

My neighbor plays B-Ball with me at Highschool, he likes Live and I like 2k more. You can't say "Just because you like Live/2k you are not a real B-ball fan." Because if you wasn't a B-ball fan you wouldn't shell out the full price the day it is released. And some of us try everything to get it earlier.

I am not a soccer fan or hockey fan, but I try to rent the games just to rent them...but I will probably never buy those games on the release date.

Ok thanks for letting us know about Live flaws. We really appreciate all your great insight and deciding factors for why the gameplay isn't realistic. I didn't see anyone post those things all week you just stated.

Thanks for helping me out.....