1.02 Patch update

[stephensonmc]

Re: 1.02 Patch update

OK so you say size limitations when it comes to patches. So are we going to see any more patches that might correct the problems left out, notably fast breaks? Or are we done with this year and going to start on next years? I only ask because it seems silly to limit a game to two patches when, assuming you do, the game maker wants to make the game better with patches.

Maybe that's too wordy. Basically, is there a limit to the amount of patches? If there is not, then are we likely to see another patch for this years game?

I know what you mean my man. We've released two patches now for NBA LIVE 09.

Right now we don't have any future patches planned. Now that this patch is out, we'll discuss as a team before making any decisions.

[GSW]

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there should be a patch to fix the ratings.

obviosuly that appears to be the REAL problem.

[23bluesman]

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there should be a patch to fix the ratings.

obviosuly that appears to be the REAL problem.

No need for a patch to fix that. stephenson and co. could edit the ratings themselves and then we get the update via 365.

[left4dead]

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No need for a patch to fix that. stephenson and co. could edit the ratings themselves and then we get the update via 365.

Didn't stephensonmc say that they will adjust the player ratings (similar to Playmaker's edits) in a future roster update?

[Sreister]

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I know what you mean my man. We've released two patches now for NBA LIVE 09.

Right now we don't have any future patches planned. Now that this patch is out, we'll discuss as a team before making any decisions.

I understand, wasn't really asking for one, just asking if we'll see one or not. Believe me, I want a good game just like everyone in here, and this game is pretty good as it is, but I do enjoy a good fast break.

Anyway, I'm behind you guys whether or not a new patch comes out, because I see it two ways, if we do get a patch, good game now, but if we don't, then we get that much more effort for next years game.

So on a personal note, you said that you weren't here for the 09 stuff before release. So do you bat cleanup? Or are you going to be here for the 2010 game? Just curious, as I like where you're head is at as far as philosophy of the game goes.

Anyway, can't wait to try out the 360 patch.

[bigdfan76]

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I'm pretty sure I had already downloaded the 360 patch late lastnight/early this morining, about 3AM central time,11/20. I've read that only the PS3 went live. I'm at work so I can't check right now if it says 1.02 but I'm pretty sure it did. I'm not that far in my dynasty, should I start over or not? Do I need to? I don't believe I need to. I played a game after I dowloaded it and my jumps/blocks seemed quicker. I'll check the headbands and score overlay tonight when I get home. I'm having fun playing. It's a good game. Thanks EA.
Oh and by the way I simmed an entire season to look at random generated rookies. I wante dto see if they improved from last years version. It's seems better this year. No more 7 footers who can't block or rebound. No more PG with 89 spd, 95 acc, and 25 agi!? lol. They seem better balanced for their positions. I think they are rated a little low but that's probably better than rated too high.

[Walker8]

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Not trying to be ***, but do we have a timeframe on when we will see hte 360 patch? I know you said shortly after but is that hours or days or weeks or it will be here when it's here..

Also anyone who has tried the actual patch any impressions on gameplay improvements?? Does the game play noticeably better, worth it etc? I know fast breaks still arent fixed but how is the interior play, rebounding and improved control and stuff? I'm assuming since they changed the jump animation that would also affect rebounding right?

[bls]

Steph, Beluba, Iminurbase I have a question. Have any of you seen any online games in action? Have you seen the ridiculous back and forth pass the ball up he court to your center for an easy dunk? If you have can you honestly say to yourself that any of the issues that you did address were more important than that? You might as well take 3 players off of each team and just have an inbounder and the Center up the court for an easy 2 everytime because basically thats what it is. And you pick taking up space to correct colors of handbands?????????

I didnt hear you mention anything about the defensive matchups being fixed, something so fundamental when it comes to the game of basketball. But instead you address headband colors???

You know some of us enjoy playing our games online I mean after thats what I pay 7.99 for every month. Yet developers cant even get there games right. But at the end of the day you still get your paycheck. Yet I paid 60 plus dollars for your game but I cant get all my money back due to it being defected. There really needs to be a petition of some kind on this because its just not fair at all.

With all that being said Im done. Your brothers other there at Madden ripped us off of having any option whatsoever in choosing another nfl game and now this. Youve officially lost me as a customer. Ill put my 60 dollars toward something else.

[Chairman7w]

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Well, two more full games under my belt and I stand by what I said earlier. It certainly seems more difficult to score inside. Definitely less "Get-in-the-paint-and-hit-square-and-automatically-score" going on. I like that.

It seems like they've amped up the difficulty, for sure. I got my a$$ handed to me by Toronto (I was Houston). They must have blocked 10 shots.

And against the Warriors (I was the Lakers), all I could do was stand there helplessly as Stephen Jackson OWNED me in the 4th quarter (7 of 9 from field) and willed them to victory.

Much better.

[Court_vision]

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there should be a patch to fix the ratings.

obviosuly that appears to be the REAL problem.

Agreed. For me, that's really dissapointing. Most of these ratings are two seasons old.

Yet they realease a patch that fixes headbands...

I don't know. IMO, it's a really poor effort.

[stephensonmc]

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Agreed. For me, that's really dissapointing. Most of these ratings are two seasons old.

Yet they realease a patch that fixes headbands...

I don't know. IMO, it's a really poor effort.

CV,

Ratings changes are not done through a patch. We can do them in our weekly manual roster updates (which are planned). Synergy also updates.

Again, this isn't a case of prioritization....

[Court_vision]

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Steph, Beluba, Iminurbase I have a question. Have any of you seen any online games in action? Have you seen the ridiculous back and forth pass the ball up he court to your center for an easy dunk? If you have can you honestly say to yourself that any of the issues that you did address were more important than that? You might as well take 3 players off of each team and just have an inbounder and the Center up the court for an easy 2 everytime because basically thats what it is. And you pick taking up space to correct colors of handbands?????????

I didnt hear you mention anything about the defensive matchups being fixed, something so fundamental when it comes to the game of basketball. But instead you address headband colors???

You know some of us enjoy playing our games online I mean after thats what I pay 7.99 for every month. Yet developers cant even get there games right. But at the end of the day you still get your paycheck. Yet I paid 60 plus dollars for your game but I cant get all my money back due to it being defected. There really needs to be a petition of some kind on this because its just not fair at all.

With all that being said Im done. Your brothers other there at Madden ripped us off of having any option whatsoever in choosing another nfl game and now this. Youve officially lost me as a customer. Ill put my 60 dollars toward something else.

I agree with you on all points.

It's like all the gameplay stuff was overlooked.

I don't see how the online + fastbreak stuff was overlooked.

It's doubly dissapointing as they came out and said the patch was 'significan't + had a lot of time spent on it.

I expected more than headbands and the scoreboard being moved a bit...

Maybe I was optimistic...but I thought the way they were answering questions + their words indicated gameplay was being addressed.

Next year. $60 more.

[stephensonmc]

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Not trying to be ***, but do we have a timeframe on when we will see hte 360 patch? I know you said shortly after but is that hours or days or weeks or it will be here when it's here..

Also anyone who has tried the actual patch any impressions on gameplay improvements?? Does the game play noticeably better, worth it etc? I know fast breaks still arent fixed but how is the interior play, rebounding and improved control and stuff? I'm assuming since they changed the jump animation that would also affect rebounding right?

Using the current PS3 situation as an example, it wouldn't be wise to give you a day that could hit or miss...

It's soon my man.

[Court_vision]

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CV,

Ratings changes are not done through a patch. We can do them in our weekly manual roster updates (which are planned). Synergy also updates.

Again, this isn't a case of prioritization....

Any time frame? I mean, it can't be that hard to sit down and change them. Most are two seasons old.

I don't want to harp on here...but some of this stuff is unacceptable IMO.

[Sreister]

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Agreed. For me, that's really dissapointing. Most of these ratings are two seasons old.

Yet they realease a patch that fixes headbands...

I don't know. IMO, it's a really poor effort.

Just for the record, I'm just as disappointed in the fact that they didn't fix fast breaks and ratings either, BUT..

You have to realize that they have many choices, and your choice may not seem like the best choice for them. You have people like you and me who all they care about is how the game is played. But, if you look at the Accessories thread, there are seemingly endless posts on people expressing their dire need to have accessories match what the players use EVERYDAY. Now, I'm not saying I agree with them, but they took that into consideration when deciding what to put in the patch.

If you think about it, what is going to be both easier AND satisfy some customers? My guess would be the accessories addition was. Not only was it most likely easier to implement, but it also shut some of us up in the process. Not to even mention the fact that it might not even have been possible given size of patches, time to work on them with pressure from us (let alone upstairs), and still fitting in time to work on next years release.

Now, is the system ideal? No, not at all. Does it need to change? Yes. Will it change? Hopefully a little, but not really a lot would be my best guess.

Don't look at this as an attack, because believe me, I'm on your side. But I also see things from the Developer's point of view as well. Maybe not a poor effort, but an unfortunate circumstance that they didn't/couldn't pick gameplay(fast breaks) as their number 1 objective in this patch.