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  • Court_vision
    Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 8290

    #1

    Season play is basically useless...

    Okay...so I sit down to start a season, pick the Mavs as I want to run with J Kidd.

    Get ready for battle with the Rockets, Jazz etc out west.

    But, hang on...Tracy McGrady isn't in the game.

    Carlos Boozer isn't in the game.

    And several other all star level guys aren't in the game.

    Why? Because they are injured this week...so they'll never appear in your season of LIVE. Never.

    If a guy is injured now...he stays that way FOREVER in the game...and you can't move him off IR.

    T-Mac is going to miss the next few weeks, so any season you guys start in that time period will never include him.

    When Booze comes back in real life...he stll won't ever appear in my season that I've started.

    Even if I play a full season...and meet the Jazz in the playoffs, he'll be on IR.

    I think Aaron said a few weeks ago here "It's like all these guys died or something" as they are never in the game.

    The only way around this is to re-set the rosters...which means I lose all the dna / new players / trades...default rosters will mean Darius Miles is still playing...

    Crazy. Season play is basically useless with these rosters.

    For the EA guys here...isn't there some way you can release a roster for us guys who want to start a season post patch and not have multiple players never play?

    It's ridiculous that a guy out for 3 days when you commence your season never plays in the game.
  • fjccommish
    Banned
    • Oct 2008
    • 635

    #2
    Re: Season play is basically useless...

    Yup. And the EA producers say the game is done, no more patches.

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    • Court_vision
      Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 8290

      #3
      Re: Season play is basically useless...

      Originally posted by fjccommish
      Yup. And the EA producers say the game is done, no more patches.
      I don't need a patch...just a simple roster with ALL players available to start my season.

      It's completely ridiculous that a guy like Boozer, out for a few days in real life, is out forever in my season.

      I don't want to play games v Houston where T-Mac never plays...or Utah where Boozer never plays.

      Imagine playing an 82 game season and you get to the playoffs...and guys out with a sore toe still aren't playing.

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      • rawdog805
        MVP
        • Dec 2002
        • 2788

        #4
        Re: Season play is basically useless...

        Originally posted by fjccommish
        Yup. And the EA producers say the game is done, no more patches.
        Did they really say this??


        Originally posted by Court_vision
        I don't need a patch...just a simple roster with ALL players available to start my season.

        It's completely ridiculous that a guy like Boozer, out for a few days in real life, is out forever in my season.

        I don't want to play games v Houston where T-Mac never plays...or Utah where Boozer never plays.

        Imagine playing an 82 game season and you get to the playoffs...and guys out with a sore toe still aren't playing.
        Why not just start the season with Default Rosters and create the trades yourself??
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        • cactusruss
          Pro
          • Aug 2004
          • 731

          #5
          Re: Season play is basically useless...

          I'm pretty new to Live, but I knew about this problem when I got the game earlier this week. I figured I could just manually adjust the rosters and start a dynasty with injuries turned off, which isn't ideal, but it's better than having everyone who goes in IR never come off. Will that not work?

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          • 23bluesman
            Pro
            • Jun 2008
            • 828

            #6
            Re: Season play is basically useless...

            Originally posted by Court_vision
            I don't need a patch...just a simple roster with ALL players available to start my season.
            Definitely agree Court_vision. I posted this in the "ask a devs" thread not too long ago:

            iminurbase,

            Can it be changed for next year though? I was wondering, for next year, would it be possible for you guys to release 2 sets of rosters for every 365 update?

            One for what you have now - fully updated rosters/lineups with DNA, injuries/suspensions, hot/cold streaks, impact streaks, etc..

            Then another for fully updated rosters/lineups with DNA tendencies, but without injuries, hot/cold streaks, impact streaks, etc..?


            I think that the Live 365/Dynamic DNA feature is amazing, and the fact that they can update everything as realistically as possible every day is amazing too. I just think that they missed the effect that it will have for season/dynasty users, thus resulting in all the "workarounds" that we're trying to successfully achieve.

            And just because sometimes you just wanna use Sun Yue in play now even though he has yet to play a game irl, but can't because of the medical cross.
            Last edited by 23bluesman; 12-05-2008, 08:23 AM.

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            • sportyguyfl31
              MVP
              • Nov 2005
              • 4745

              #7
              Re: Season play is basically useless...

              I restarted my season since the knicks roster has changed so dramatically. What I did was just put all of the injured players back into the rotation before restarting, and when I started the dynasty, I turned "simulation injuries" off since the CPU doesnt manage its IR when players are healed from their injuries.

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              • Jasong7777
                All Star
                • May 2005
                • 6415

                #8
                Re: Season play is basically useless...

                Originally posted by 23bluesman
                Definitely agree Court_vision. I posted this in the "ask a devs" thread not too long ago:

                iminurbase,

                Can it be changed for next year though? I was wondering, for next year, would it be possible for you guys to release 2 sets of rosters for every 365 update?

                One for what you have now - fully updated rosters/lineups with DNA, injuries/suspensions, hot/cold streaks, impact streaks, etc..

                Then another for fully updated rosters/lineups with DNA tendencies, but without injuries, hot/cold streaks, impact streaks, etc..?

                I think that the Live 365/Dynamic DNA feature is amazing, and the fact that they can update everything as realistically as possible every day is amazing too. I just think that they missed the effect that it will have for season/dynasty users, thus resulting in all the "workarounds" that we're trying to successfully achieve.

                And just because sometimes you just wanna use Sun Yue in play now even though he has yet to play a game irl, but can't because of the medical cross.
                This would be perfect. Before I got the game I knew about the Live 365 rosters, but I thought they would also just do regular roster update like in the past. That would be ideal for me. On top of that, I tried to start a Lakers dynasty, but the game kept freezing. Love the game but it's just not working out. After playing this game I can't go back to 2k9. Might have to go without a basketball game this season.
                Redskins, Lakers, Orioles, UNC Basketball , and ND Football
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                • faster
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 2182

                  #9
                  Re: Season play is basically useless...

                  Pretty sure you can just save the latest DNA rosters as a different file name, reorder the roster, then start your season. Everybody will play then.

                  I can check and see if that works. I thought for sure it does, but maybe I still had some LSD in me (joking).
                  "Well the NBA is in great hands but if I had to pick the single greatest player on the planet, I take Kobe Bryant without hesitation." - Michael Jordan, 2006

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                  • cactusruss
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 731

                    #10
                    Re: Season play is basically useless...

                    Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                    I restarted my season since the knicks roster has changed so dramatically. What I did was just put all of the injured players back into the rotation before restarting, and when I started the dynasty, I turned "simulation injuries" off since the CPU doesnt manage its IR when players are healed from their injuries.
                    Thats what I'm about to do. Hopefully they'll have this fixed next year,

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                    • poster
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 7506

                      #11
                      Re: Season play is basically useless...

                      Originally posted by sportyguyfl31
                      I restarted my season since the knicks roster has changed so dramatically. What I did was just put all of the injured players back into the rotation before restarting, and when I started the dynasty, I turned "simulation injuries" off since the CPU doesnt manage its IR when players are healed from their injuries.
                      So your dynasty will then start with all of the players healthy and with full DNA and the current rosters from the point in which you start your dynasty?

                      I asked in the ask the devs thread and no one answered. I love DNA, but this was a huge oversite on EA's part.

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                      • Flightwhite24
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 12094

                        #12
                        Re: Season play is basically useless...

                        Man I hope that's not the case. I was gonna start my Season today based off today's update. I though all you had to do was just take the guys off the IR then start and you would be okay. I don't think I would enjoy playing if so many stars will be missing. EA please chime in. Peace!!!
                        The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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                        • Jasong7777
                          All Star
                          • May 2005
                          • 6415

                          #13
                          Re: Season play is basically useless...

                          Originally posted by JSKYWALKER1
                          Man I hope that's not the case. I was gonna start my Season today based off today's update. I though all you had to do was just take the guys off the IR then start and you would be okay. I don't think I would enjoy playing if so many stars will be missing. EA please chime in. Peace!!!
                          Sorry that is the case. I know it sucks. This game does so many things right, but over looks the simple things.
                          Redskins, Lakers, Orioles, UNC Basketball , and ND Football
                          PSN: Jasong757
                          Xbox Live: Monado X

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                          • Flightwhite24
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 12094

                            #14
                            Re: Season play is basically useless...

                            Originally posted by Jasong7777
                            Sorry that is the case. I know it sucks. This game does so many things right, but over looks the simple things.
                            Just incredible. Something so simple, it never fails with an EA made game. Their is always 1-2 major features that are left out and leaves you wondering what do they think about when putting a game together. Just mind-boggling
                            The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"

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                            • sportyguyfl31
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4745

                              #15
                              Re: Season play is basically useless...

                              Originally posted by poster
                              So your dynasty will then start with all of the players healthy and with full DNA and the current rosters from the point in which you start your dynasty?

                              I asked in the ask the devs thread and no one answered. I love DNA, but this was a huge oversite on EA's part.


                              Yeah, it will work. I restarted my dynasty and I checked the team's rotations before playing a game. Tmac was ont he rockets, manu and parker where there, etc.

                              It sucks that you have to turn injuries off to get a proper dynasty, but you will get train wreck rosters otherwise.

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