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  • dave374
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 1928

    #76
    Re: Season play is basically useless...

    Originally posted by fenwayfaithful
    And people wonder why LIVE sucks so much now.
    You came all the way to these forums for this?

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    • fjccommish
      Banned
      • Oct 2008
      • 635

      #77
      Re: Season play is basically useless...

      I don't think the game sucks. One aspect is broken, and really should be fixed in this version.

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      • DXZeke
        Straight Edge
        • Feb 2003
        • 2538

        #78
        Re: Season play is basically useless...

        Originally posted by Avordo99
        Fully agree with everything you stated. I for one, am greatly disappointed in both game developers (EA and 2K) in that they created all this hype surrounding "DNA" and "Living Rosters", leading gamers (speaking for myself here) to believe these regularly updated rosters/statistics would be incorporated into an active dynasty/season. My favorite part of sports gaming (baseball, football, basketball, hockey, etc…) is playing the dynasty/season mode as I could care less about playing a "pick-up game". I hope that next year's Live installment will come through with the capability I was expecting this year. BTW, I am currently playing 2K9 (PS3) but was thinking about picking up Live as well (not so sure now though?). Gladly welcome recommendations (pros & cons). Thanks
        There's no way to work CURRENT rosters into a franchise mode. When you play a franchise mode it has it's own living world that's going on. Trades, hot streaks, player progression, etc. EA stated this one very clearly here in the forums that it was only for Play Now and Online Play Now.

        In order to have "Living Rosters" and the "Live 365" rosters they'd would have to have a Season mode that only allows you to play the games that your team has up played in real life to date. This way there's no trades that the CPU would initiate and injuries only happen like they would in real life. Thus you'd be stuck playing a Season Mode in real time with what's going on in the NBA. That could be cool though, but it's the only way to bring in Current Rosters to a season mode.

        Again, there's no way to bring in these kind of roster changes to a franchise mode since that mode is totally own it's own completely outside of what's going on in the real world.
        Last edited by DXZeke; 12-07-2008, 01:45 AM.
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        • RedSox34
          Rookie
          • Nov 2008
          • 15

          #79
          Re: Season play is basically useless...

          "but basic functions that have worked in previous versions of a game should work"


          Totally agree here, Mate - This issue affects one of the fundamental aspects of a Dynasty Mode. Never mind, at least we can rest assured that the 'casualties' are sporting the correct Headbands & Sneakers as they sit on the IR for months on end.

          A truly disappointing side of an otherwise cracking game.

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          • rman
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 351

            #80
            Re: Season play is basically useless...

            Originally posted by fjccommish
            I don't think the game sucks. One aspect is broken, and really should be fixed in this version.
            I do think it sucks and it has many more then one aspect broken, starting with the rewind feature.

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            • Dealin Rams
              Pro
              • Nov 2002
              • 819

              #81
              Re: Season play is basically useless...

              Originally posted by DXZeke
              In order to have "Living Rosters" and the "Live 365" rosters they'd would have to have a Season mode that only allows you to play the games that your team has up played in real life to date. This way there's no trades that the CPU would initiate and injuries only happen like they would in real life. Thus you'd be stuck playing a Season Mode in real time with what's going on in the NBA. That could be cool though, but it's the only way to bring in Current Rosters to a season mode.
              That would be the holy grail of season-modes for me. I realize it may not be what everyone is looking for, but I've been waiting since the 90s for a game where you can play a season that mimics the exact day-to-day scores, stats, standings, injuries, and transactions of the real life league, save for how you impact scores, stats, and standings via your team's play. The first company that introduces this type of mode will be earning my gaming dollar.

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              • fjccommish
                Banned
                • Oct 2008
                • 635

                #82
                Re: Season play is basically useless...

                The holy grail for me would be to forget NBA players, forget trying to make sure headbands and hair styles were correct, in favor of gameplay that played more like real professional basketball.

                Forget player DNA to update guys to their current status in the NBA. Give me player DNA so realistic players could be designed, so I could design someone who really played like a superstar, or a star, or a journeyman, or a stiff.

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                • sammogard
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 351

                  #83
                  Re: Season play is basically useless...

                  so the updates from now on will not have the player lock and i can just download and go to dynasty?

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                  • stephensonmc
                    WW*/*FC C*mm*n*ty Mgr.
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 2105

                    #84
                    Re: Season play is basically useless...

                    Originally posted by fjccommish
                    The holy grail for me would be to forget NBA players, forget trying to make sure headbands and hair styles were correct, in favor of gameplay that played more like real professional basketball.

                    Forget player DNA to update guys to their current status in the NBA. Give me player DNA so realistic players could be designed, so I could design someone who really played like a superstar, or a star, or a journeyman, or a stiff.
                    This is a common thing that people think with game development that isn't true.

                    We know gameplay is a priority and we have alot of resources working on gameplay. Other areas in the game need to be built as well, so we put resources towards that.

                    We have a majority working on gameplay (which Beluba can talk about), but that doesn't mean we aren't doing other things because we have people who aren't gameplay designers to do that stuff.

                    Making sure headbands and hairstyles are correct is not hindering the execution on gameplay improvement. Two completely different things, people, ideas and work.

                    If there's one thing that all of you learn with us being here, I'd love it to be that you know there are different sides and parts to making a game complete for ship and that it's a long, hard process. We know gameplay is the priority. I get that until it's up to the standards that all of you want, this will keep coming up, but know that we get it.
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                    • sammogard
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 351

                      #85
                      Re: Season play is basically useless...

                      so r u guys guna keep the lock off rest of the updates so i can start dyansty i still may take my used copy back cuz i play seasons more then anything else

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                      • marc68
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 494

                        #86
                        Re: Season play is basically useless...

                        I just love how Madden and Live come out and after about a month or so a "bug" is discovered by the public that affects the game in a huge way.

                        Yet the response is the same from the developers

                        "Sorry...cant fix it, buy next years game and we promise it will be fixed in that one."

                        That is utter BS!!!!!

                        What about the testing process???? Didnt the game get quality tested?????

                        It is sooo irritating to hear this every year from EA....

                        $60.00 for a game that is NOT finished!!!!

                        Total BS....

                        If you buy a TV or a car or a DVD player and something about it doesn't work, you return it for a refund...PERIOD!!!

                        EA...I want my money back...PM me please!!

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                        • Chairman7w
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 1490

                          #87
                          Re: Season play is basically useless...

                          StephonsonMC, can you comment on the testing process for these games? I'm not here to cuss at your or scream, but I am (and many other poeple are too) very curious about the Testing that goes on.

                          When the patch gets done and NOW Free Throws are virtually unmissable, and there's still no AI Fastbreaking to speak of, it really makes you scratch your head. Are you telling me Playtesters didn't even notice these things?

                          Is it NOT an easy thing to fix these things? (That's a serious question, I am NOT a programmer so I admit to total ignorance about this stuff) I mean, isn't it just a matter of adjusting some numbers or something?

                          Thanks.

                          Originally posted by stephensonmc
                          This is a common thing that people think with game development that isn't true.

                          We know gameplay is a priority and we have alot of resources working on gameplay. Other areas in the game need to be built as well, so we put resources towards that.

                          We have a majority working on gameplay (which Beluba can talk about), but that doesn't mean we aren't doing other things because we have people who aren't gameplay designers to do that stuff.

                          Making sure headbands and hairstyles are correct is not hindering the execution on gameplay improvement. Two completely different things, people, ideas and work.

                          If there's one thing that all of you learn with us being here, I'd love it to be that you know there are different sides and parts to making a game complete for ship and that it's a long, hard process. We know gameplay is the priority. I get that until it's up to the standards that all of you want, this will keep coming up, but know that we get it.

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                          • carnalnirvana
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1981

                            #88
                            Re: Season play is basically useless...

                            chairman the cpu can fastbreak just look at the 2 vids i did in CV thread about " halfcourt/full court game"

                            filefront's playback quality is bad but that is a game on left4dead sliders

                            no ratings were edited

                            its the dna i wish the devs would look at it
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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #89
                              Re: Season play is basically useless...

                              Originally posted by marc68
                              I just love how Madden and Live come out and after about a month or so a "bug" is discovered by the public that affects the game in a huge way.

                              Yet the response is the same from the developers

                              "Sorry...cant fix it, buy next years game and we promise it will be fixed in that one."

                              That is utter BS!!!!!

                              What about the testing process???? Didnt the game get quality tested?????

                              It is sooo irritating to hear this every year from EA....

                              $60.00 for a game that is NOT finished!!!!

                              Total BS....

                              If you buy a TV or a car or a DVD player and something about it doesn't work, you return it for a refund...PERIOD!!!

                              EA...I want my money back...PM me please!!

                              while i dont disagree to a point, this isnt the same team working on 2010 and truthfully when they asked for input on what we'd like to see fixed in the patch

                              Noone said anything about the fastbreaks. You can find more harping about the blocking than fastbreaks. Use Tomba's advice and edit the fastbreak awareness to 60 (which seems to be higher for some PF's than guards) and the hustle rating to 80. He seems to find a happy medium there, i havent tested it yet but he says it works.... give it a shot.

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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #90
                                Re: Season play is basically useless...

                                Originally posted by carnalnirvava
                                chairman the cpu can fastbreak just look at the 2 vids i did in CV thread about " halfcourt/full court game"

                                filefront's playback quality is bad but that is a game on left4dead sliders

                                no ratings were edited

                                its the dna i wish the devs would look at it

                                what exactly did you do?

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