Season play is basically useless...

[carnalnirvana]

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i edited the players dna & thier dna tendency.

there is a breakdown of their post tenency, and perimeter tendency

go right %

shoot %

go left %

i personally think they game is too jump shot happy

DNA TENDENCY
i gave go right & left way higher % than shoot EX. 45% right 15% shoot 40% left you do something like this for ALL 5 of their dna tendencies BASED ON THEIR SKILL

THEN...

PLAYER DNA

look at chris paul as an example he has a PICK & ROLL BALLHANDLER of 76 and an ISO of 15 he will almost always wait on a missed shot to set up the Half Court offense if you give him an ISO rating of about 30, PRB of about 10( this rating means that he will be handling the ball on most pick & rolls) why is this 76% of his logic. he needs to cut, occasionally attack the rim , pull up , set a screen, run off a screen SO i leveled out things based on how i feel he plays...

if you mix things up and not have a chunk of the cpu logic in one area the game opens up beautifully while still keeping the beautiful half court game. Also i see the half court offense use more of the clock i dont think anyone cares that the lakers shoot on an average of 7 seconds every posession.

last point .........look at Bic z on cleveland he has a DNA tendency of SHOOT % of 100 on the perimeter and every game he will shoot from the same place all game, same for his post same spot always every game

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Only problem there is, that is their actual DNA tendencies from Synergy

You're telling me you changed every players DNA ratings completely.. including the tendencies to go right and left?

NO is a slow paced team to be honest with you and most of their game is from him waiting on a screen to create for the team.

He brings the ball up the court at a nice steady slow pace if you watch some games of the team (which was why his assist numbers were so remarkable)

You're pretty much changing this teams tendencies and moving them from their spots by editing this correct?

If you are getting good fastbreak points and the halfcourt game isnt suffering... lets come up with something for the guys on the board.

Im going to give the CPUvsCPU with Tomba's suggestion a shot first to see, but those videos were interesting although this pretty much goes off of personal opinion.

I wouldnt mind working with you for a medium for guys who want it though... I could even record some games as you did and put it up

One more ?... changing the tendencies made those guys break up the court like that on most of those possesions?... a go right and left bump up changes the FB logic?

[carnalnirvana]

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you are right......

i dont know how to fix this we need to find some middle ground but its another option that should be explored...

it needs testing

i cannot change their hot spots

but i can change whether they are going to stay on that spot and not move from it.... look at some of the ratings

no player in the league goes to his sweet spot always. i'll be honest i have never seen big z on the right side of the perimeter thats the ABSOLUTENESS of players playing to the current stats

if i play cleveland 100 times big z will be the same place 100 times too ABSOLUTE, TOO GUARANTEED.

with ratings so aboslute and predictable its gets old.

i am not changing how PAUL plays i am injecting some life in other parts of his game IF they run pick and roll plays look at the dna for his teammates they have high pick and rollman dna ratings so they will still set millions of screens BUT if 76 of his stat is there he will never cut or come off a screen or spot up or try to take his man IT WILL ALWAYS BE SCREEN AND ROLL, PICK AND ROLL......

ideally what i would like is not to change the way they play but lets say if a player has a 70 post up then the next highest stat is 15. i think and i am still testing THIS but it we give him 45 in post and distribute the left over 25 to places where he has 5, 4, 8 it will lead to more variety...... it wont hurt to see duncan set an occasional pick or cut behind his man, not just run to the post all game.....

again this needs work after finals this week i will look at it more and make more vids to see if its something that could be added to some of the great things the guys do here......

[fjccommish]

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Have you come up with anything in the DNA to make a guy rebound? I created a max height center, as a test. In played games (CPU v CPU) he averages 4 rebounds a game, that's with everything I can think of (such as rebounding IQ) maxed.

[iminurbase]

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I just love how Madden and Live come out and after about a month or so a "bug" is discovered by the public that affects the game in a huge way.

Yet the response is the same from the developers

"Sorry...cant fix it, buy next years game and we promise it will be fixed in that one."

That is utter BS!!!!!

What about the testing process???? Didnt the game get quality tested?????

It is sooo irritating to hear this every year from EA....

$60.00 for a game that is NOT finished!!!!

Total BS....

If you buy a TV or a car or a DVD player and something about it doesn't work, you return it for a refund...PERIOD!!!

EA...I want my money back...PM me please!!

I started my career in testing so I know the challenges there. It can be so stressful looking through a game looking for bugs and praying that nothing is missed that the community will find upon release.

Let's say over the course of testing a game there are 15,000 hours worth of testing. Then let's imagine that after a few days of release, all of you put probably 800,000 hours of playing into the game. This effect is exponentially worse for games like Gears and Halo who have insane sales. Even among you guys, the Dynasty bug wasn't fully realized until a month ago, at which point the patch was already finalized.

All that said, this doesn't take the blame off of us; we should have caught it. It sucks, and we need to make testing is better in this area.

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you are right......

i dont know how to fix this we need to find some middle ground but its another option that should be explored...

it needs testing

i cannot change their hot spots

but i can change whether they are going to stay on that spot and not move from it.... look at some of the ratings

no player in the league goes to his sweet spot always. i'll be honest i have never seen big z on the right side of the perimeter thats the ABSOLUTENESS of players playing to the current stats

if i play cleveland 100 times big z will be the same place 100 times too ABSOLUTE, TOO GUARANTEED.

with ratings so aboslute and predictable its gets old.

i am not changing how PAUL plays i am injecting some life in other parts of his game IF they run pick and roll plays look at the dna for his teammates they have high pick and rollman dna ratings so they will still set millions of screens BUT if 76 of his stat is there he will never cut or come off a screen or spot up or try to take his man IT WILL ALWAYS BE SCREEN AND ROLL, PICK AND ROLL......

ideally what i would like is not to change the way they play but lets say if a player has a 70 post up then the next highest stat is 15. i think and i am still testing THIS but it we give him 45 in post and distribute the left over 25 to places where he has 5, 4, 8 it will lead to more variety...... it wont hurt to see duncan set an occasional pick or cut behind his man, not just run to the post all game.....

again this needs work after finals this week i will look at it more and make more vids to see if its something that could be added to some of the great things the guys do here......

Well I do understand what you're saying and I wouldnt mind helping you out.

Although I have a PS3 and you have a 360 we can't share rosters but we can at least make tweakable ratings that the community can just copy and use (with the work of trying it out eliminated.

The vids looked good, so if it produces good points off FB's and the rest stays consistent as usual then we're good

[carnalnirvana]

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i'll rent live for my ps3 do about 6 teams and you can do some testing if you have the time, i remember you saying you are doing something with tomba

but its finals week so i cant give you a specific day but if you want to try it out let me know what teams you want to use.....

thank you

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i'll rent live for my ps3 do about 6 teams and you can do some testing if you have the time, i remember you saying you are doing something with tomba

but its finals week so i cant give you a specific day but if you want to try it out let me know what teams you want to use.....

thank you

Tomba did his tweaks... i would just have to apply them and look at the CPU vs CPU

Ill give yours a shot because I can do his in one night

I go on vacation next week so ill have time to to work on things, but I would like to mess around with a few tonight thats why i was asking for your formula

[buzzguy]

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Wow...lots of pages here. Anyway, did the season roster problems lamented about on the first page get fixed? I have Live in my Goozex que, but I'll drop it if there's a non-functioning franchise mode.
Thanks in advance.

[sammogard]

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yeah can i start my franchise after the next 365 is out no player lock for ird players

[fjccommish]

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The problem is worked around, rather than fixed. EA has kindly unlocked the rosters so we can go in and place injured players in the lineup before starting a dynasty or season. This allows people to start the season/dynasty with all the important players in the lineup.

The underlying problem still exists - injured players never return to the lineup once they heal. If a superstar gets hurt it's as if they've left the league for life.

With season or dynasty you must play with injuries off.

[sammogard]

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you sure duhon got inuried when i simmed he healed and started the next game that kinda sucks ruins the game for this guy

[fjccommish]

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One of the developers said it happens sometimes, but not other times. Some guys will return to the lineup, others won't.

It's more a problem on CPU controlled teams because you can move a guy back into your lineup.

Kobe Bryant was injured as I was simming a Dynasty...a year later he was still in the league but on the Lakers IR.

I re-started a Dynasty without injuries.

[buzzguy]

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Man, how does that kind of bug make it through play testing? Isn't franchise an important mode for most players? Way to drop the ball, EA.

[Pared]

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Man, how does that kind of bug make it through play testing? Isn't franchise an important mode for most players? Way to drop the ball, EA.

lol Am I the only person that feels like this is a saved message somewhere that everyone uses?

Do people just copy and paste this reply?