NBA live 10 Retail Video thread

[DC]

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[Stumbleweed]

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Haha, the one dunk that someone managed to pull off and post a video of and DC's here to booooo it in 2 minutes flat.. I love OS.

[diegoa1]

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Was that a backhanded shot at my hoop skills Sir ??? Lol they aged much better the last half geesh lol plus. The issue was our offense with melo in the tank! That's my story and I'm sticking too it LOL.

LMAO, nothing against your skills, i already gave you props earlier. i think it's more about the cpu using cheap tactics to get their points rather than running effective offense.

[Da_Czar]

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What part of the debate did I SAY I WAS THE BEST EVER?

and in reponse to your post about me actually playing the demo or game....................

Now that's not really how i wanted to respond to that post. But out of respect for the rest of the forum community I'll keep it real up in here before i come at you with something i know you can't handle.

Enjoy your day cuz

Pm I think it just may be the tone that one might get when reading your posts I was in your boat last year man liked small parts both both games and despised others. Ended up being a terrible year for me on the hoop game front thankfully this year is different.

Keep posting your constructive points as the devs are around after awhile though it mAy help if we make sure you get the majority of your concerns in the patch request and wishlist threads.

I have had you as a guest on my show and we have talked so you know I respect your work and opinion. You mAy want to take the year off fro live my man I did that with 2k for the most part last year and really look forward to playing it this year.

Sometimes you get so deep in the Forrest you can't see the trees.

[aga11ah]

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Good look Pared will do that on the next ones when I get home I was not aware folks disliked my favorite angles Lol

yes please. lol. the only time I liked that view was on Run N Gun basketball back in the arcade. no offense

[str8artist]

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Da Czar, I see you man.... Working that pick and roll with billups... I liked how you attack the open lanes with him at the perfect time.. So realistic.. keep em coming

[jira2004]

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Wow...

I haven't played either basketball game next gen...did play CH2k8 for a few weeks...

but I can't believe how bad Live looks.

CPU isn't passing the ball.

Both teams passing the ball seemingly through the defenders chests, arms, hands, heads, etc. No steals at all? Passes are lazily thrown cross court or inside with no fear at all.

Jump shots look worse than sega genesis to me. Something is wrong with those animations, like the players aren't extending their arms or something. Looks bad to me.

Quick shooting

crazy shots that those players would never shoot in real life

weak defense. defenders inside giving 2 feet of room on the block when the player has the ball?

It's obvious that you haven't been to a real NBA clippers game.....

It's a video game chief.......

[pezone]

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on what pages has CZAR posted more vids???

[Playmakers]

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Hey PM, here's a question:

If you enjoyed Live previously, what looks so different in terms of CPU play?

Quite honestly I'm not seeing a HUGE difference from last year to this year in that one specific area.

Why wasn't it a problem last year and is such a big problem this year?

I definitely understand gamer's expectations change but to me, it seems like the CPU play is at least on level with last years, which was one of the game's strong suit: single-player.

I didn't play Live 09 all year. I was hyped up at the beggining but then the hype went out the window for me especially after seeing things in the game that I don't care to discuss again this year.

I could live with a few earlier versions of Live because it was new and fresh to me. Kinda like it being new and fresh to people right now who went away from the game and are coming back.

Well when you never left like myself somethings won't feel as new or fresh as they would for the guy coming back. The CPU has always been a huge problem in Live whether that is animations or just basketball logic. Yes the animations have improved somewhat, yes the game play has improved. But for me the logic of the CPU players is still the same. They might animate a bit better but after 5years on Next Gen when you see the same things, same type of shots by guys you know that with oir without DNA shouldn't be shooting it gets old. When you see the CPU for the 5th year playing ball as they are in the local YMCA it gets old.

I'm not interested in what the Human player can do with the CPU players on the floor. If they can't perform on their own after 5 years I doubt i'll be that interested in playing a season or franchise.

Guys can tell me i'm delusional or i don't know basketball but i do know there is a certain style of play on the the floor with Chris Paul, D.Wade, LBJ or Amare.

Has anyone honestly seen Chris Paul do the things Chris Paul does on the floor?

I'm not talking about shooting the ball i'm talking about breaking a guy down off the dribble just like you see one of these cats showcasing his dribbling skills. Have tou seen Paul get into the paint draw the defender and then throw an alley to one his bigs?

Have you seen Nash and Amare run the pick roll on their own and it end up with Nash setting up Amare for a nasty dunk?

Has anyone seen Shaq at 350 look like Shaq and not Manut Bol inside?

I could go on and on but hey i know guys are going to say you can't EXPECT THAT TYPE of play out of the cpu.......

Why can't I, They are using DNA right?

It has been 5 years and yes the development team has changed but there are tons of things i could point out that hasn't changed. Things a new guy might not notice because it's new to him and it hasn't been something he's seen every year.

Now by all means I'm sure Live 10 will be a great game for many Live fans and even those who bailed out and came back again. But for me personally it's just NOT that good based on the CPU vs Human play and the earlier years of excitment and freshness NO longer exist for me.

But hey thanks man atleast you didn't come at me with some B.S. telling me I don't know the game or how to play the game like some of these cats want to post if someone finds things or points out things they might think is bothersome.

[str8artist]

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on what pages has CZAR posted more vids???

Page 7, sir

[diegoa1]

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I didn't play Live 09 all year. I was hyped up at the beggining but then the hype went out the window for me especially after seeing things in the game that I don't care to discuss again this year.

I could live with a few earlier versions of Live because it was new and fresh to me. Kinda like it being new and fresh to people right now who went away from the game and are coming back.

Well when you never left like myself somethings won't feel as new or fresh as they would for the guy coming back. The CPU has always been a huge problem in Live whether that is animations or just basketball logic. Yes the animations have improved somewhat, yes the game play has improved. But for me the logic of the CPU players is still the same. They might animate a bit better but after 5years on Next Gen when you see the same things, same type of shots by guys you know that with oir without DNA shouldn't be shooting it gets old. When you see the CPU for the 5th year playing ball as they are in the local YMCA it gets old.

I'm not interested in what the Human player can do with the CPU players on the floor. If they can't perform on their own after 5 years I doubt i'll be that interested in playing a season or franchise.

Guys can tell me i'm delusional or i don't know basketball but i do know there is a certain style of play on the the floor with Chris Paul, D.Wade, LBJ or Amare.

Has anyone honestly seen Chris Paul do the things Chris Paul does on the floor?

I'm not talking about shooting the ball i'm talking about breaking a guy down off the dribble just like you see one of these cats showcasing his dribbling skills. Have tou seen Paul get into the paint draw the defender and then throw an alley to one his bigs?

Have you seen Nash and Amare run the pick roll on their own and it end up with Nash setting up Amare for a nasty dunk?

Has anyone seen Shaq at 350 look like Shaq and not Manut Bol inside?

I could go on and on but hey i know guys are going to say you can't EXPECT THAT TYPE of play out of the cpu.......

Why can't I, They are using DNA right?

It has been 5 years and yes the development team has changed but there are tons of things i could point out that hasn't changed. Things a new guy might not notice because it's new to him and it hasn't been something he's seen every year.

Now by all means I'm sure Live 10 will be a great game for many Live fans and even those who bailed out and came back again. But for me personally it's just that good based on the CPU vs Human play and the earlier years of excitment and freshness no longer exist for me.

But hey thanks man atleast you didn't come at me with some B.S. telling me I don't know the game or how to play the game like some of these cats want to post if someone finds things or points out things they might think is bothersome.

this is why i'll only be playing user games.

[Pared]

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Guys, let's get back to the videos please. I think we've strayed enough from the topic.

[Bug]

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Im loving the vids i can see once the season starts with the new updates it going to be a thing of beauty keep up the great work guys thanks

[KG]

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Booooooooooooooooo

I saw that vid and immediately thought, "DC is gonna like that one"

The crowd in the 2nd video was insane.

I think my biggest issue with hoops games these days is passing. A lot of passes that go from the perimeter to the paint just look off. Directional passing creates some highly unrealistic interactions with balls squeezing through tight places (pause) and passes going through defenders.

Also, not sure if was just the learning curve but Melo is leaning on a lot of jumpers when he doesn't even need to. You did have a nasty move with Melo in Vid1 catching the ball on the baseline, pivot, pump, and then to the rack. Not sure if he lost the ball or it got blocked. Overall I'm not impressed by the CPU AI from the user vs cpu vids I have seen. There was one time where Melo caught the ball in the post, the double came (a good thing) with Bynum and he didn't do put his hands up or anything. He sort of just ran to the spot. The footwork looks good but I think they just need to speed up the animations on them a little bit to smooth them out.

I didn't bother watching the cpu vs cpu. If I'm going to watch bball I'd rather watch the real thing.

BTW Czar, watching you run your offense was 10X more enjoyable than watching the Lakers.

[Playmakers]

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Guys, let's get back to the videos please. I think we've strayed enough from the topic.

No problem man....

Although i didn't think my post strayed away from the topic i was still speaking about basketball and what i saw in the video.

I see OS still has way too many guys that can't hold a basketball debate when it comes to Live or 2K. I think I'll have to leave these boards because there are simply way too many sensitive guys now days that act like kids and everything is a competition around here with them.