should an early release result in a short or long shot?

**thomonkey** · 07-12-2010, 12:51 PM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Originally posted by ILLSmak

then people would be tapping the button and the ball would be flying through the backboard.

-Smak

well with the current system if you tap the button it will be an airball. id rather hit the backboard then airball it. at least you have a chance for the rebound.

**Pared** · 07-12-2010, 01:33 PM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Originally posted by thomonkey

people can win a discussion when they prove that they are right and the other person is wrong.

Yes, and if that's their main operative they can do so on another site. It will not be the cause of rude and disrespectful bickering here.

**thomonkey** · 07-12-2010, 07:50 PM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Originally posted by Pared

Yes, and if that's their main operative they can do so on another site. It will not be the cause of rude and disrespectful bickering here.

don't get so worked up about it
this is nothing to get upset about
we are talking about video games you know

**NoTiCe_O** · 07-12-2010, 10:16 PM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

I haven't read this whole thread but ..

The fact of the matter is shooting on your way down should not cause an increase in power on your jumpshot, its just realistic and physics .. If they want this game to be realistic they'd change that. No matter how it feels its just not real ..

Long hold should be short and Short hold should increase power ..

**Jay™** · 07-13-2010, 12:36 AM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Even though in real life a late release results in a short shot, I think it would feel better if it resulted in a long shot. It all depends on what they want to go with, realism or feel.

**thomonkey** · 07-23-2010, 05:11 AM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

reanimator can you chime in on the matter?

has any decision on the topic been made?

i think the poll has shown that most people (70 percent as of now.) would prefer a realistic power meter.

thanks

**navi24** · 07-25-2010, 01:39 AM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Originally posted by Pokes404

Any chance they can make this an option for people? Kind of like some games will let you choose whether you want directions to be reversed (like pressing down on the right stick makes you look up while pressing up makes you look down for example). It doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to do.

I'd much rather have early releases be long. I think it would feel more natural to have it that way.

THIS IS A VERY GOOD IDEA, GIVE THE USER THE OPTION TO CHOOSE

**navi24** · 07-25-2010, 01:54 AM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

u guys really need to change it to were a quick release results in more power, because after watching that video with curry when he was doing a bank shot it looks really ugly , his feet almost touches the ground before he released the ball, thats not realistic. change it to this QUICK RELEASE= MORE POWER

**RayDog253** · 08-02-2010, 10:20 PM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Originally posted by navi24

THIS IS A VERY GOOD IDEA, GIVE THE USER THE OPTION TO CHOOSE

Give the option like FPS's. In most Fps's when you first start they give you the option to invert your controls. They could do this with Elite, ask the player which they would prefer when first entering the practice arena.

**ILLSmak** · 08-03-2010, 12:18 AM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Originally posted by thomonkey

well with the current system if you tap the button it will be an airball. id rather hit the backboard then airball it. at least you have a chance for the rebound.

I don't understand what that has to do with anything. Think of it like a golf shot. Or kicking a field goal. Obviously those are different mechanics, but the idea is that power must be 'charged' up somewhere because they aren't accounting for the mechanics of bending your knees and the actual amount of power you put in your legs.

I recall someone mentioning that people who shoot full court shots do not jump high, but I think they use their legs a lot. And instead of getting lift upwards what they do is they jump towards the basket almost and fling their whole body in one motion to get maximum power. That doesn't prove anything.

Obviously, people floating in the air to gain more power is stupid and people getting more powerful shots on the way down is also stupid. But unfortunately, it's very hard to come up with a working mechanic without accounting for the other factors that I mentioned.

That's why when I mentioned an idea similar to this I was hoping for a more complex method that you would have to press down on the stick (the more 'centered' the better); then the pressing down could be creating the power or potential power and the up motion could be simply release. Remember how 2k did free throws? Kind of like that except faster obviously because that wouldn't work in gameplay.

But it would be amazingly sweet if implemented correctly.

-Smak

**thomonkey** · 08-03-2010, 02:05 AM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Smak, don't take my comments out of context please.

thanks

**inkpimp007** · 08-03-2010, 12:23 PM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Originally posted by thomonkey

well that's why everyone is entitled to their own opinion. obviously the devs dont really think having an early release go long is very important or they would have made the early release go long. And yes, i know even before picking up the controls that i will not like shooting if they keep it this way. sometimes in life you know if you will like something before you try it. for example i dont like sea food, but id never had octopus. well somebody said if i haven't tried how can i not like it. and i ate it and nearly barfed.

You can also convence yourself you don't something before you try it as well. This is the power of persuasion. I can convence myself a Toyota is in the same class as a BMW but it doesn't make it true.

But yeah agree holding the ball longer should result in a shorter shot. The Dev team would fooling themselves if they think switching this would confuse any of us, we're all smart enough to handle it.

**ILLSmak** · 08-04-2010, 08:54 PM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Originally posted by thomonkey

Smak, don't take my comments out of context please.

thanks

How did I take your comments out of context? You said 'you'd rather' have something happen, but I think tapping the button should not lead to a desirable circumstance. Think of a very early release as the ball slipping out of your hand...

-Smak

**thomonkey** · 08-04-2010, 09:05 PM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

Originally posted by ILLSmak

How did I take your comments out of context? You said 'you'd rather' have something happen, but I think tapping the button should not lead to a desirable circumstance. Think of a very early release as the ball slipping out of your hand...

-Smak

you took it out of context because somebody had mentioned how they don't want a realistic power meter because if you hang too long it will be an airball, so i was just pointing out for the other person that with an unrealistic power meter releasing early will result in an airball so his argument doesn't make sense. you made it look like i was using this topic as an argument for a realistic power meter which is far from the truth. that's why i said don't take my comment out of context. get it?

**ILLSmak** · 08-04-2010, 11:31 PM

Re: should an early release result in a short or long shot?

You quoted my post and said "but"; my reply was to that, so there's no way it could be taken out of context.

My comment to you was that tapping the button shouldn't result in a better outcome than an airball, and you said "I'd rather have it hit the backboard." Obviously, but people should be punished for a very early release...

Now, outside of the box, you can say a tap airball could easily go as a tip in and that could be abused more so than a smash off the backboard. That makes sense... but hopefully it won't end up where people are throwing pseudo alley-oops by tapping the shoot button.

-Smak

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