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The funny thing is that 75% of those "fancy" passes were in 2k3, you guys just didn't play it enough to notice.

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No they weren't. I played hours of 2K3 and didn't see anything that looked remotely as over-the-top and goofy as the behind-back passes I keep seeing in the preview videos of 2K this year.
To the guy who started this thread initially- nice post. I don't necessarily agree with everything you say (or at least some of it remains to be seen) but it was well said without being over-inflammatory.
I also agree with neovsmatrix - 2K3 was a far cry from a simulation. IMO (and I was a HUGE 2K1 and 2K2 fan) it was just slow and boring. I could never get how all the so-called basketball experts in here could automatically equate SLOW with SIM. Live was an even further cry from a sim, but at least it was fun to play and never seemed to pretend to be anything that it wasn't. As I have posted earlier, I didn't get to play enough ID to be able to pass judgement on it, so I won't.
(NOTE: Sega [censored you naughty boy], save your breath on calling me out for the above paragraph. Nothing you say will make a lick of difference in changing my mind).
I'm justing hoping somebody, anybody will step up to the plate this year with a sim game worth playing for an entire year.
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