It Could Take a Few Years to Compete with NBA 2K Again, Says Peter Moore

[Colts18]

Re: It Could Take a Few Years to Compete with NBA 2K Again, Says Peter Moore

The funniest thing about this title is the assumption that 2K will not grow as a product during those few years EA thinks it will take to catch up. 2K will be getting better and EA will still be playing catch-up.

But some of you must not understand that you should never say never. Who knows what can happen between now and then.

[noshun]

Re: It Could Take a Few Years to Compete with NBA 2K Again, Says Peter Moore

First step for Peter Moore is to work with the FBI and locate hard8times before they release any demo of whatever nba game they plan on releasing.

[ccoaxum]

i'm not happy with 2k basketball games, i hate the fact that i have to play nba live 10 and 2k basketball...i really do miss my EA basketball, and EA is really making me mad!

[JaySmooov]

EA is focused on putting out a quality game, rather than winning back their fan base, and they should be.

Think: When Texas A&M leaves for (hypothetically) say, the SEC, you think they're gonna go into the first year thinking, "We're gonna compete with Alabama and LSU for the SEC crown and national title hopes"? They are a rising program as of now, and while realistically they would think of winning their division, no one would expect them to compete with two national powerhouses in their first year. They still have to adjust to SEC recruiting - and still compete with Texas for the top talent their.

EA has to come back in the NBA market and automatically adjust/adhere to new precedents set by what's been implemented in 2K's games and what us fans want. I thought HipHopGamer made a great point in his preview of 2K12 when he stated that since 2K added the ability to interact with the front row of the crowd, Live/Elite HAS to add it to their game (or something similar) or else it'll just be another 1-Up for 2K. - and that's where I think the competition stands right now.

EA has to realize that 2K is and will be better than them in many phases of the game, such as the Isomotion feature (Never played 2K10 but a guy named Chris Smoove showed the Isomotion changes from 10 to 11 in a recent video, hoping we can edit every move like it was in 10), presentation, and My Player. EA has to attack what 2K DOESN'T do well while still competing with what 2K does do well, or will be leaps and bounds over them.

Basically, IMO, EA needs to release a base game THIS year with a feature or two they can bank on, rebuild the Live rep from the ground up, and make their move on 2K when the next generation of consoles come out. But this is the one chance they have to show gamers they're serious about sim basketball.

[afridgetofar]

No disrespect but there will probably never really be competition again. You quit, and that is going to be held over your head. You have to be better than 2K basically out the box whenever you come back or people are gonna say we waited this long for this? I think they should try to focus on MVP baseball and bringing it back, maybe do a college basketball game since 2K left the market. Direct competition with 2K basketball is not good for EA and I would not doubt that the case would be the same if they did not get the exclusive in football. Just look MLB 2K baseball it is okay but I think someone else could do better, exclusives are not the answer for the fans and direct competition in basketball video games is not what EA wants with 2K, but it is good that EA is kinda facing reality, somewhat.

FIFA was in the same situation as Live at the console generation leap. Then when FIFA 07 came out with it's complete rehaul it changed everything. It wasn't better than PES, matter of fact it was ****. But it's technology projected serious potential that didn't really turn into a great product till FIFA 10 or MAYBE FIFA 09. By then they had completely turned the tables against Pro Evolution Soccer and now we look at PES in the same light as NBA Elite/Live with respect to FIFA.

I feel NBA Elite, in all likelihood has the chance to do the same thing. The franchise is in need of more mature design from the core mechanics standpoint. They got the technology (from FIFA) and plenty of time. The odds are in their favor.

[Eski33]

Gamers should want competition. It is amazing how 2K gets a pass on being so-so with its NBA series yet EA gets crushed in other areas. Yes, NBA 2K 11 was great but only because of Jordan. The ganeplay and visuals were minor improvements over previous iterations

Not hating 2K because I believe they innovate like no one but no competition sucks. I dont expect EA's hoop game to better nor does it have to be. It only needs to offer something different.

As far as EA quitting, they made a crazy move not releasing Elite but the move to release it would have been crazier.

EA's games over this generation have made huge improvements. The NHL series is outstanding, FIFA is probably EA's best, NCAA Football (even with its flaws) is miles better and Madden 12 is the best in the series in a long time. Not to mention MVP Baseball would be an outstanding competitor to The Show.

Just hope the leagues (NFL and MLB) get away from exclusivity.

[Mos1ted]

Since this topic has turned into a 2K vs EA argument yet again, I feel the need to interject in 2K's defense. Now, before someone says I'm a 2K fanboy/EA hateboy, I was a staunch NBA Live series fan from the '95 edition to the 2002 edition. It wasn't until NBA 2K2 was released for Xbox that I jumped ship and have been a fan of that series ever since.

Back in the 90's, the NBA Live series was the king of innovation. They were the first series to make Create-A-Player a standard feature, not just in basketball games but in all sports games. They were the first series to reintroduce fans to Michael Jordan and other NBA legends. They also were the first series to introduce the streetball modes that are so common in the NBA 2K series. But where the NBA Live series faltered is when they neglected to make gameplay innovations. They were so focused on having exciting features, they neglected the most important part of any game. 2K enters the picture and offers better gameplay in their very first edition.

For longtime Live fans at the time, the brand was starting to get stale to some of us, and we were willing to try something new. 2K eventually offered a better feature set, better animations, and better graphics in addition to their already superior gameplay. The gap in quality between the two series would widen with each iteration.

Live decided to switch things up with NBA Live 2003 by focusing on making the gameplay fun and free flowing rather than trying to replicate the nuances of NBA basketball. This created the segmented market that exists today: the casuals and the "sim" heads, as the 2K series continued to focus on authenticity. NBA 2K4 was a miscalculated attempt to make the game "fun" following the success of Live 2003, but NBA 2K quickly returned to its roots the following year.

Live made the decision to return back to authenticity with the 2010 edition, fueled by the addition of Mike Wang. Why they decided to scrap the foundation they built with 2010 in favor of going an entirely new direction will remain one of the biggest blunders in video game competition history for years to come.

There are some on here (I'm assuming younger guys) who assume that NBA 2K just came into their own last year with 2K11, but in reality, 2K has been ruling the NBA market since its inception. It just took them being the only game for the foreseeable future to get the few Live fans that still remained a chance to see what they actually had to offer.

[bamalam]

Re: It Could Take a Few Years to Compete with NBA 2K Again, Says Peter Moore

lol


this is the ole "3 yr plan" from when they were being criticized about elite. they kept saying wait until year 3 of our new 3 yr plan!

now he says "it will take a few years" to get up to competition level.

sounds like a rerun answer.

[JerseySuave4]

they should just focus on college basketball instead. With them out of the picture and 2k still getting better each year they have a long way to go.

[coolcras7]

Re: It Could Take a Few Years to Compete with NBA 2K Again, Says Peter Moore

Gamers should want competition. It is amazing how 2K gets a pass on being so-so with its NBA series yet EA gets crushed in other areas. Yes, NBA 2K 11 was great but only because of Jordan. The ganeplay and visuals were minor improvements over previous iterations

Not hating 2K because I believe they innovate like no one but no competition sucks. I dont expect EA's hoop game to better nor does it have to be. It only needs to offer something different.

As far as EA quitting, they made a crazy move not releasing Elite but the move to release it would have been crazier.

EA's games over this generation have made huge improvements. The NHL series is outstanding, FIFA is probably EA's best, NCAA Football (even with its flaws) is miles better and Madden 12 is the best in the series in a long time. Not to mention MVP Baseball would be an outstanding competitor to The Show.

Just hope the leagues (NFL and MLB) get away from exclusivity.

Hahahahahahahaha, really Hahahahahaha

[whoahello]

Some people don't realize what a screw up Peter Moore is as a CEO. When he was with Reebok, he got the brand to unfamiliar status. With Nike and Adidas taking the charge. And today we have Jordan added to mix as well. Then at Microsoft and the Xbox 360, he decided that it was best to rush the console resulting in RRODs'. Now with EA, he couldn't manage a team well enough to give us a quality basketball game. NBA Elite delayed. Moore just cares about how much profit can be made and what Metacritic has scored them; he doesn't care about the people working on the games, which is why Mike Wang left EA and back to 2K.

[Goffs]

Re: It Could Take a Few Years to Compete with NBA 2K Again, Says Peter Moore

pfft Elite/Live who cares? It's all about NBA Jam now! I'm glad they are still making that!

Though they need to bring their sports titles to the PC again. They want to compete against Steam with Origins then they really should bring Madden, NHL, NBA Jam to the PC. I would buy them!

[Behindshadows]

Re: It Could Take a Few Years to Compete with NBA 2K Again, Says Peter Moore

pfft Elite/Live who cares? It's all about NBA Jam now! I'm glad they are still making that!

Though they need to bring their sports titles to the PC again. They want to compete against Steam with Origins then they really should bring Madden, NHL, NBA Jam to the PC. I would buy them!

Madden, NHL, and NCAA Football on PC would be great and make them windows live games...So the online would be smooth and great....

[buickbeast]

Re: It Could Take a Few Years to Compete with NBA 2K Again, Says Peter Moore

This is almost as funny as never seeing a pass int called in NCAA

[Muzyk23]

Re: It Could Take a Few Years to Compete with NBA 2K Again, Says Peter Moore

EA Sports have absolutely no chance to compete in the field of sim basketball. All the details, nuances, little things. It took 2k a few years to perfect thier game.

Imo, EA should go the arcade way and make a fun and easy game to those less sim oriented.