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  • PrimeTime21
    Pro
    • Sep 2003
    • 604

    #31
    Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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    samjjones said:
    I just got the game last night, and was able to play two games. Per this board, only settings I changed were to change game speed to 45, and moved fatigue up to 75. Played on "Starter" difficulty level. This game is great. I had absolutely NO problems making open shots when they were present. In my first game, I played as the Nets vs. the Raptors. I shot 46% from the floor, and the CPU shot 48%. With 8 minute quarters, the score was 78-72. The game was extremely realistic. The CPU Raptors went to Vince down the stretch, and he kept the game tight all the way. The CPU doubled Jason Kidd midway in the 4th as it saw I was creating shots for him. Mourning was able to post efficiently down low, and when doubled, could kick it out to Kittles in the corner for the open 3 (of which he made a couple). Richard Jefferson was erratic from outside, and Kenyon Martin couldn't hit anything outside 10 feet. I didn't ABUSE the pro-hop...in fact, I often had difficulty finding a clear path to the basket to even implement it. I was able to use a couple of times with Kidd, who would do sweet looking layups, or with Jefferson, who would bring it strong. In the second game I played, I was the Rockets vs. the CPU Sonics. Again, very realistic results. I won 74-70, with Yao (who simply abused Radmanovic) finishing with 16 points and 12 boards. Francis scored 25. I could not stop Rashard Lewis, who had 28 with a number of breakaway dunks. Again, I think you are only going to get out of this game what you put into it. If you are looking for a REALISTIC simulation of NBA basketball, this game will provide it. If you have the desire to use the pro-hop to drive to the hole every single time, even though you will not be successful all of the time (at least not on the difficulty level that I played), you can make this game into a dunk fest. But having not bought a basketball game since NBA 2002 (ouch!), I think this game is awesome.

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    i played on superstar its almost impossible to hit a jump shot. Nkredible is 100% right about everything he says

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    • samjjones
      MVP
      • May 2003
      • 557

      #32
      Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

      No offense, but aren't the higher difficulty levels "supposed" to be harder? Perhaps you are not "shooting" as efficiently as you can be? I am sure you are a better player than I am. What happens if you move down a difficulty level? Do you start making more open shots? And please be honest when determining whether a shot you are taking is a "good" shot or a "bad" shot, and keep in mind the expected variance of such. But if people don't like the game, that's cool. Hopefully ESPN (which I plan on checking out also) will more closely mirror your expectations of NBA basketball.

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      • samjjones
        MVP
        • May 2003
        • 557

        #33
        Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

        No offense, but aren't the higher difficulty levels "supposed" to be harder? Perhaps you are not "shooting" as efficiently as you can be? I am sure you are a better player than I am. What happens if you move down a difficulty level? Do you start making more open shots? And please be honest when determining whether a shot you are taking is a "good" shot or a "bad" shot, and keep in mind the expected variance of such. But if people don't like the game, that's cool. Hopefully ESPN (which I plan on checking out also) will more closely mirror your expectations of NBA basketball.

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        • samjjones
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 557

          #34
          Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

          No offense, but aren't the higher difficulty levels "supposed" to be harder? Perhaps you are not "shooting" as efficiently as you can be? I am sure you are a better player than I am. What happens if you move down a difficulty level? Do you start making more open shots? And please be honest when determining whether a shot you are taking is a "good" shot or a "bad" shot, and keep in mind the expected variance of such. But if people don't like the game, that's cool. Hopefully ESPN (which I plan on checking out also) will more closely mirror your expectations of NBA basketball.

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          • ps2king
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 1508

            #35
            Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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            PrimeTime21 said:
            [i played on superstar its almost impossible to hit a jump shot. Nkredible is 100% right about everything he says

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            Maybe you guys just cant shoot

            I have played both online and offline and hits Mid Range-Long Range shots with NO PROBLEM
            Perfect Example I played online againist a friend to prove this point, I shoot nothing but jump shots and Mid-Range etc...

            I used the Bulls and he was the Celtics, Jamal Crawford scored 33pts ALL ON JUMP SHOTS not one lay up. Crawford finished 12-25(3 3pters) by the way most of these were mid-range

            Impossible to hit a jump shot, give me a break

            Go to practice mode or something

            Or better yet get the game you guys really want to get but dont say shooting etc.. is impossible because of your short comings

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            • ps2king
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 1508

              #36
              Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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              PrimeTime21 said:
              [i played on superstar its almost impossible to hit a jump shot. Nkredible is 100% right about everything he says

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              Maybe you guys just cant shoot

              I have played both online and offline and hits Mid Range-Long Range shots with NO PROBLEM
              Perfect Example I played online againist a friend to prove this point, I shoot nothing but jump shots and Mid-Range etc...

              I used the Bulls and he was the Celtics, Jamal Crawford scored 33pts ALL ON JUMP SHOTS not one lay up. Crawford finished 12-25(3 3pters) by the way most of these were mid-range

              Impossible to hit a jump shot, give me a break

              Go to practice mode or something

              Or better yet get the game you guys really want to get but dont say shooting etc.. is impossible because of your short comings

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              • ps2king
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 1508

                #37
                Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                PrimeTime21 said:
                [i played on superstar its almost impossible to hit a jump shot. Nkredible is 100% right about everything he says

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                Maybe you guys just cant shoot

                I have played both online and offline and hits Mid Range-Long Range shots with NO PROBLEM
                Perfect Example I played online againist a friend to prove this point, I shoot nothing but jump shots and Mid-Range etc...

                I used the Bulls and he was the Celtics, Jamal Crawford scored 33pts ALL ON JUMP SHOTS not one lay up. Crawford finished 12-25(3 3pters) by the way most of these were mid-range

                Impossible to hit a jump shot, give me a break

                Go to practice mode or something

                Or better yet get the game you guys really want to get but dont say shooting etc.. is impossible because of your short comings

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                • fossen
                  Bl*bfl*th z*p!
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 7098

                  #38
                  Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                  jdawgkemp said:
                  When they the cpu or another player tries the pro hop on me i stay in front of them and usually get contact causing a charge or a missed shot soooo work on your defense.

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                  Yep - I'd agree with this, as well. I haven't found the Pro Hop abusive from either the CPU or myself. Though you can force your way through the paint, I find that I can still stick with the guy on D, and get a hand up - either contest the shot or put him at the line.

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                  • fossen
                    Bl*bfl*th z*p!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 7098

                    #39
                    Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                    jdawgkemp said:
                    When they the cpu or another player tries the pro hop on me i stay in front of them and usually get contact causing a charge or a missed shot soooo work on your defense.

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                    Yep - I'd agree with this, as well. I haven't found the Pro Hop abusive from either the CPU or myself. Though you can force your way through the paint, I find that I can still stick with the guy on D, and get a hand up - either contest the shot or put him at the line.

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                    • fossen
                      Bl*bfl*th z*p!
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 7098

                      #40
                      Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

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                      jdawgkemp said:
                      When they the cpu or another player tries the pro hop on me i stay in front of them and usually get contact causing a charge or a missed shot soooo work on your defense.

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                      Yep - I'd agree with this, as well. I haven't found the Pro Hop abusive from either the CPU or myself. Though you can force your way through the paint, I find that I can still stick with the guy on D, and get a hand up - either contest the shot or put him at the line.

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                      • Anaxamander
                        Imperator
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 2795

                        #41
                        Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

                        I hope I never see the word "bettah" again in my life.

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                        • Anaxamander
                          Imperator
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 2795

                          #42
                          Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

                          I hope I never see the word "bettah" again in my life.

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                          • Anaxamander
                            Imperator
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 2795

                            #43
                            Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

                            I hope I never see the word "bettah" again in my life.

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                            • SoMiss2000
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 20499

                              #44
                              Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

                              To me, shooting IS harder. I haven't played live in a couple years and I'm just trying to get the shot release point down. It you hold the button down too long you get a stronger shot that usually clangs off the rim.
                              "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
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                              • SoMiss2000
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 20499

                                #45
                                Re: Pro Hop IS too effective...my impressions of everything else also

                                To me, shooting IS harder. I haven't played live in a couple years and I'm just trying to get the shot release point down. It you hold the button down too long you get a stronger shot that usually clangs off the rim.
                                "Never trust a big butt and a smile."-Ricky Bell
                                Check out www.sliderset.net



                                Currently Listening: The D.O.C.: No One Can Do It Better (evidence that rap music used to be good!)

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