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  • Adarkin
    Rookie
    • Nov 2002
    • 273

    #31
    Re: They are still there!!

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    jtdribbles25 said:
    its unfortunate that the novelty has worn off for you....im still loving it more with each day. Its funny because sometimes people here complain about things that don't even go on in the league...me and my dad were just talking about how the nba guys have no mid-range game. The cpu seems to take what I give them during the flow of the game. I wish all they would do was shoot 3's cuz I'd be blowing them out. My defense is good enough to stop the drive and often times they will adapt to more pick and roll so they can get the 15 footer....to each his own though...


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    Wow, I am glad you are having such a great basketball experience. I wish I could get the CPU to take 15 footers. I pride myself in my defense, kinda just carries over from when I use to play basketball. I enjoy the look on the other guys face when he realized that the only thing he could do was pass to someone else. On the game I can just about shut the computer down at will. This is where my problems start occurring more and more. The better you play defense the more 3s, 5 second hail marys and “nothing is going to stop this” low post moves I see.

    As far as the nba not having a mid range game, I can’t for the life of me see where people get this from. I was watching the game last night(Lakers/Spurs) D.Fisher on more than one occasion dribble inside the three point line, faked a drive and pulled up at the top of the key. That walk-on Hart for the Spurs was nailing mid range shots all night. Players like A. Houston make a good living draining the mid range shot. On a whole the NBA teams have gone away from the mid range shot for a few reasons. The size and speed of today’s players effect this a great deal. They can flat out cover more ground than teams of old that used the mid range more. How many teams in the 80s could put 2-3 seven footers on the floor at once and not have the game slow to a crawl? Team like the Mavs, Rockets, Spurs, and the Wolves can do this on a nightly basis.
    I am not looking for the computer to take only mid range shots. Just take and make more of them when they are open, or even make a move and pull up for some more often. have a guy catch and shoot once in while.

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    rayw69 said:
    Just wanted to point something out, if it wasn't already obvious to everyone.

    Lowering the CPU sliders for something like Close Shot Percentage is NOT going to result in fewer shot attempts from close range by the CPU team. They are going to MAKE fewer shots if the slider is lower, but they certainly aren't going to TAKE fewer shots. It is not as if the CPU team somehow knows that a close shot is now harder to make, and will take fewer of them.

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    God I hope you are partially wrong. My thinking is that they programmed the computer to go to its strengths, understand what is not working in a given game, and try something else.
    Good blog on video game patching

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    • samjjones
      MVP
      • May 2003
      • 557

      #32
      Re: They are still there!!

      This isn't necessarily a defense, but if you've noticed, there is NO mid-range game in today's NBA. Upcoming players simply don't take the time to practice the 18 foot jump shot anymore.

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      • samjjones
        MVP
        • May 2003
        • 557

        #33
        Re: They are still there!!

        This isn't necessarily a defense, but if you've noticed, there is NO mid-range game in today's NBA. Upcoming players simply don't take the time to practice the 18 foot jump shot anymore.

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        • samjjones
          MVP
          • May 2003
          • 557

          #34
          Re: They are still there!!

          This isn't necessarily a defense, but if you've noticed, there is NO mid-range game in today's NBA. Upcoming players simply don't take the time to practice the 18 foot jump shot anymore.

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          • the_future420
            MVP
            • Jul 2002
            • 3086

            #35
            Re: They are still there!!

            It seems to me that cpu midrang J problem is only found on superstar difficulty. I absoulutely hate this, because the cpu plays much smarter and tougher D on superstar, but the fact that they take no midrange J's kills superstar mode for me. I guess im forced to stick to all-star where they take all types of shots. We MUST HAVE a shooting range frequency slider next year. A percentage for short, medium and long range shots has to be implemented.
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            • the_future420
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 3086

              #36
              Re: They are still there!!

              It seems to me that cpu midrang J problem is only found on superstar difficulty. I absoulutely hate this, because the cpu plays much smarter and tougher D on superstar, but the fact that they take no midrange J's kills superstar mode for me. I guess im forced to stick to all-star where they take all types of shots. We MUST HAVE a shooting range frequency slider next year. A percentage for short, medium and long range shots has to be implemented.
              PSN ID: thefuture420
              Twitch
              Now Playing: MLB The Show 16, Fifa 16, Fallout 4

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              • the_future420
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 3086

                #37
                Re: They are still there!!

                It seems to me that cpu midrang J problem is only found on superstar difficulty. I absoulutely hate this, because the cpu plays much smarter and tougher D on superstar, but the fact that they take no midrange J's kills superstar mode for me. I guess im forced to stick to all-star where they take all types of shots. We MUST HAVE a shooting range frequency slider next year. A percentage for short, medium and long range shots has to be implemented.
                PSN ID: thefuture420
                Twitch
                Now Playing: MLB The Show 16, Fifa 16, Fallout 4

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                • olec
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 181

                  #38
                  Re: They are still there!!

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                  wtferrell said:
                  Then we are playing two totally different games of Live then. The CPU takes mid-range shots on me ALL the time. Not just late in the clock. Sometimes I even get crossed and then shook for a wide open "J". As far as the 5 second shot, I Have not seen it and I am 46 games through my Dynasty. Sure, Steve Nash will hit a few shots like you pointed out, but I have NEVER, and I stress NEVER seen big men hit 3's unless it is Raef or someone like that. Try using some sliders, or something.

                  I absolutely LOVE this game still. Every game is a different experience, and that is what has me sold on Live this year above the competition.

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                  what sliders are you using?
                  i fell i have to adjust mine a lil more...

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                  • olec
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 181

                    #39
                    Re: They are still there!!

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                    wtferrell said:
                    Then we are playing two totally different games of Live then. The CPU takes mid-range shots on me ALL the time. Not just late in the clock. Sometimes I even get crossed and then shook for a wide open "J". As far as the 5 second shot, I Have not seen it and I am 46 games through my Dynasty. Sure, Steve Nash will hit a few shots like you pointed out, but I have NEVER, and I stress NEVER seen big men hit 3's unless it is Raef or someone like that. Try using some sliders, or something.

                    I absolutely LOVE this game still. Every game is a different experience, and that is what has me sold on Live this year above the competition.

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                    what sliders are you using?
                    i fell i have to adjust mine a lil more...

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                    • olec
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 181

                      #40
                      Re: They are still there!!

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                      wtferrell said:
                      Then we are playing two totally different games of Live then. The CPU takes mid-range shots on me ALL the time. Not just late in the clock. Sometimes I even get crossed and then shook for a wide open "J". As far as the 5 second shot, I Have not seen it and I am 46 games through my Dynasty. Sure, Steve Nash will hit a few shots like you pointed out, but I have NEVER, and I stress NEVER seen big men hit 3's unless it is Raef or someone like that. Try using some sliders, or something.

                      I absolutely LOVE this game still. Every game is a different experience, and that is what has me sold on Live this year above the competition.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


                      what sliders are you using?
                      i fell i have to adjust mine a lil more...

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