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  • KyotoCarl
    MVP
    • Mar 2010
    • 3827

    #31
    Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

    Originally posted by mauro78
    Actually The leaked video doesn't look too bad...I linke some aspects of the game...hope it'll be out on oct. 2
    Then with 2 patches could be almoust playable
    Regards
    What did you like? I liked the presentation, but that was it. It doesn't look to play smooth and the graphics are crap. The only patch that would save the game would be NBA Live 14.
    What we know so far about NBA 2K14 - FAQ/QA:
    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2045267769

    My thoughts on how replays should be handled:
    http://www.operationsports.com/Kyoto...plays-replays/

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    • Boilerbuzz
      D* B**rs!
      • Jul 2002
      • 5154

      #32
      Originally posted by Conda
      Hire a private investigator. I never said I know who has them. There are "rumors" from credible sources everywhere. These things have to be kept secret for obvious reasons. My point is they should focus on developing a next gen NBA game. I don't see what would stop them from doing that if they aren't already, because other companies have been preparing for next gen. They can save the resources they are "wasting" on Live 13 because even if it comes out this year, I believe it will be a fail. I could be wrong, but it's my opinion.





      http://www.gamespot.com/news/bethesd...nsoles-6351118
      Ok, first, I agree with you that they would be wise to get going on next gen. But here is the problem: they have no trusted foundation to work with. And if there are next gen kits out there, they can't be little more than first pass "test your concept" hardware. Any work they "waste" on this gen, can and should be used as a basis for the next. If they didn't go all out next gen, then saying they were coming out this year was not only a waste of time, effort, and resources, but a horrible tease to fans that would now view this as a broken promise. And those fans will have a hard time trusting them further...

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      • mauro78
        Ion6 Studios
        • Jan 2006
        • 616

        #33
        Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

        Originally posted by KyotoCarl
        What did you like? I liked the presentation, but that was it. It doesn't look to play smooth and the graphics are crap. The only patch that would save the game would be NBA Live 14.
        -Presentation/Audio
        -Player Models & graphics
        -Different WingSpan
        -Passing (based on the fact that's possibly an alpha version)

        I see some potential....I will buy it (also 2k13 of course) for sure.....
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        NBA 2k14 (PC)
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        • Boilerbuzz
          D* B**rs!
          • Jul 2002
          • 5154

          #34
          Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

          Originally posted by mauro78
          -Different WingSpan
          Where did you see that? When did that engine implement differing wingspans?

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          • fluent2332
            MVP
            • Aug 2005
            • 1735

            #35
            Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

            Why would anyone who loves basketball want EA to "scratch" Live 13? That's ridiculous. I don't even know why I'm responding. EA needs to continue the Live series because not everyone wants to play the same 2K basketball game every year. We need variety. If they want to work on other games like NBA Jam or Street or whatever, fine, but that's no reason to cancel Live.

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            • RandomPerson
              Rookie
              • Aug 2012
              • 174

              #36
              Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

              Originally posted by fluent2332
              Why would anyone who loves basketball want EA to "scratch" Live 13? That's ridiculous. I don't even know why I'm responding. EA needs to continue the Live series because not everyone wants to play the same 2K basketball game every year. We need variety. If they want to work on other games like NBA Jam or Street or whatever, fine, but that's no reason to cancel Live.
              But who in the right mind would play Live 13 over 2K13? That would be like if had a Lamborghini Gallardo, but chose to drive my Ford Pinto just because I wanted something different. I think it should be scrapped. It's not even close to being a competitive product.

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              • DukeC
                Banned
                • Jul 2011
                • 5751

                #37
                Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

                Originally posted by fluent2332
                Why would anyone who loves basketball want EA to "scratch" Live 13? That's ridiculous. I don't even know why I'm responding. EA needs to continue the Live series because not everyone wants to play the same 2K basketball game every year. We need variety. If they want to work on other games like NBA Jam or Street or whatever, fine, but that's no reason to cancel Live.
                I feel like they should truly do a 2 year cycle this time. Keep the same core team intact for multiple years instead of feeling the need to constantly switch up.

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                • mauro78
                  Ion6 Studios
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 616

                  #38
                  Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

                  Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                  Where did you see that? When did that engine implement differing wingspans?
                  Here is an interview that Gamechurch.com conducted with NBA Live 13 producer Nick Wlodyka back at E3 2012, which we somehow missed posting back in June. The interview provides a good rundown of the info we know so far from their approach to the game, their main goals with NBA Live 13 and the sharing of ANT ...
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                  NBA 2k14 (PC)
                  PES 2014 (PC)
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                  • fluent2332
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2005
                    • 1735

                    #39
                    Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

                    That's an excellent interview. Thanks for posting!

                    But who in the right mind would play Live 13 over 2K13? That would be like if had a Lamborghini Gallardo, but chose to drive my Ford Pinto just because I wanted something different. I think it should be scrapped. It's not even close to being a competitive product.
                    I usually wouldn't respond to something like this, but I'm bored. First of all, we haven't even seen NBA Live 13 yet. We've only seen some pre-alpha footage. It's far too early to try and judge whether or not it's as good as 2K. For all you know the retail version could drop and it could have better gameplay than 2K. Who knows. And honestly, all that talk about which games are better than other games is just relative. One man's trash is another man's treasure if I must use that cliche. Apples and oranges. Live will probably be much different than 2K and deliver a completely different experience.

                    Secondly, the 2K series is far from perfect. In fact, I would say it's been regressing since 2K8, and Live 10 was the best recent basketball game I've played. I'm not really knocking 2K, the animation and look of their basketball games are top notch, but other areas leave a lot to be desired. Again this is just my opinion.

                    I will be buying Live 13 no matter what. I'm ready for a change of pace from 2K, and if Live 13 is anything like Live 10 or Elite (which I think looked very solid in the few videos I've seen from it), then I already know I'm going to be very happy with my purchase. It may not have the animation level of 2K (thank God!), but it will probably have some great controls, fun gameplay, ESPN presentation, Synergy Sports DNA, etc etc. Lots of good stuff for bball heads.
                    Last edited by fluent2332; 08-28-2012, 02:56 PM.

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                    • Billz313
                      Banned
                      • May 2011
                      • 102

                      #40
                      Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

                      Originally posted by fluent2332
                      That's an excellent interview. Thanks for posting!

                      I usually wouldn't respond to something like this, but I'm bored. First of all, we haven't even seen NBA Live 13 yet. We've only seen some pre-alpha footage. It's far too early to try and judge whether or not it's as good as 2K. For all you know the retail version could drop and it could have better gameplay than 2K. Who knows. And honestly, all that talk about which games are better than other games is just relative. One man's trash is another man's treasure if I must use that cliche. Apples and oranges. Live will probably be much different than 2K and deliver a completely different experience.

                      Secondly, the 2K series is far from perfect. In fact, I would say it's been regressing since 2K8, and Live 10 was the best recent basketball game I've played. I'm not really knocking 2K, the animation and look of their basketball games are top notch, but other areas leave a lot to be desired. Again this is just my opinion.

                      I will be buying Live 13 no matter what. I'm ready for a change of pace from 2K, and if Live 13 is anything like Live 10 or Elite (which I think looked very solid in the few videos I've seen from it), then I already know I'm going to be very happy with my purchase. It may not have the animation level of 2K (thank God!), but it will probably have some great controls, fun gameplay, ESPN presentation, Synergy Sports DNA, etc etc. Lots of good stuff for bball heads.
                      The definition of ******** bro, you define the word.


                      Edit: Wow, you cant say retdarded (misspelled intentionally)

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                      • Boilerbuzz
                        D* B**rs!
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5154

                        #41
                        Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

                        Originally posted by RandomPerson
                        But who in the right mind would play Live 13 over 2K13? That would be like if had a Lamborghini Gallardo, but chose to drive my Ford Pinto just because I wanted something different. I think it should be scrapped. It's not even close to being a competitive product.
                        Some people will play both. One as the PRIMARY game and the other for a change of pace. And I'm one of those guys that gets all of them just to support them if I feel they are trying. I have my doubts with Madden though and I don't like the deal - so I don't buy that one. But I buy everything else. Even in sports I'm not a big fan of such as Fifa.

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                        • Boilerbuzz
                          D* B**rs!
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5154

                          #42
                          Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

                          Originally posted by fluent2332
                          Secondly, the 2K series is far from perfect. In fact, I would say it's been regressing since 2K8, and Live 10 was the best recent basketball game I've played.
                          No offense; but you've either completely lost your mind, or never had much to work with.


                          Of course I kid. But you do seriously have a WILDLY different view of things. Are the skies yellow in your part of the country?



                          Originally posted by fluent2332
                          It may not have the animation level of 2K (thank God!), but it will probably have some great controls, fun gameplay, ESPN presentation, Synergy Sports DNA, etc etc. Lots of good stuff for bball heads.
                          Boy. The conclusions we can draw from this - animations are bad. Very bad. The fewer the better. And basketball heads are all about Synergy data and ESPN presentation. I repeat: Wow. That's all I get when I read your posts. Just wow. I do enjoy your post though.
                          Last edited by Boilerbuzz; 08-28-2012, 03:56 PM.

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                          • fluent2332
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 1735

                            #43
                            Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

                            Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                            No offense; but you've either completely lost your mind, or never had much to work with.


                            Of course I kid. But you do seriously have a WILDLY different view of things. Are the skies yellow in your part of the country?

                            I consider 2K8 to be the best game in the 2K series. In that game you could actually control your players. It played a very realistic game of basketball. The more recent 2Ks add more animation and glitz and glamor but lack the substance of the older 2K games. I read in another thread that a 2K employee reportedly admitted that the series has plateaued, and I would definitely agree with that.

                            Live 10 was brilliant. It played a very solid brand of basketball. And you could actually control your players. Live doesn't have the depth of animation that 2K has but you don't need animations to make a great game. I consider Morrowind for the original XBOX to be a great game, and the animations in that game were considered poor by most. 2K tries to emulate a real basketball game with their breadth of animations but they sacrifice a lot of control and other things in the process. That is why I prefer Live 10 over almost any 2K game I've ever played.

                            2K6 to 2K8 were some great years for the 2K series. It's been all downhill since then. But like I said before, I still have played most of the recent 2K games and had a blast with them. They are good at what they do. But since Live 10 I have preferred the Live way of doing things over the 2K style, and which is why I'm way more excited for Live 13 than 2K13.

                            I don't see what's so crazy about that. It's called having an opinion.

                            Boy. The conclusions we can draw from this - animations are bad. Very bad. The fewer the better. And basketball heads are all about Synergy data and ESPN presentation. I repeat: Wow. That's all I get when I read your posts. Just wow. I do enjoy your post though.
                            Draw these conclusions instead. Animations that sacrifice control are bad. The fewer of those the better. And why wouldn't a diehard basketball fan love the idea of Synergy data which fuels the gameplay. You do realize that those stats and things directly influence the gameplay, right? ESPN Presentation is also huge if you ask me. I'd much rather a realistic television style broadcast than something one of Jay-Z's employees constructed.
                            Last edited by fluent2332; 08-28-2012, 04:16 PM.

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                            • husani123
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 86

                              #44
                              Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

                              I didn't even know they still made the NBA live series

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                              • King_B_Mack
                                All Star
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 24450

                                #45
                                Re: EA should scratch Live 13?

                                Originally posted by fluent2332
                                That's an excellent interview. Thanks for posting!

                                I usually wouldn't respond to something like this, but I'm bored. First of all, we haven't even seen NBA Live 13 yet. We've only seen some pre-alpha footage. It's far too early to try and judge whether or not it's as good as 2K. For all you know the retail version could drop and it could have better gameplay than 2K. Who knows. And honestly, all that talk about which games are better than other games is just relative. One man's trash is another man's treasure if I must use that cliche. Apples and oranges. Live will probably be much different than 2K and deliver a completely different experience.

                                Secondly, the 2K series is far from perfect. In fact, I would say it's been regressing since 2K8, and Live 10 was the best recent basketball game I've played. I'm not really knocking 2K, the animation and look of their basketball games are top notch, but other areas leave a lot to be desired. Again this is just my opinion.

                                I will be buying Live 13 no matter what. I'm ready for a change of pace from 2K, and if Live 13 is anything like Live 10 or Elite (which I think looked very solid in the few videos I've seen from it), then I already know I'm going to be very happy with my purchase. It may not have the animation level of 2K (thank God!), but it will probably have some great controls, fun gameplay, ESPN presentation, Synergy Sports DNA, etc etc. Lots of good stuff for bball heads.
                                EA knows and that's why they're locked up in Area 51 with this thing not saying a word about it. Again, August 28th. Target date? October 2nd. NBA Live information known? Nothing.

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