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  • Boilerbuzz
    D* B**rs!
    • Jul 2002
    • 5154

    #421
    Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

    Originally posted by loadleft
    Of all the things you listed I only see the CPU foul problem regularly, and I've already mentioned that I'm waiting for the patch before I cry to loudly about that.
    This is what I'm talking about. Why wait? If you see the issue, and don't speak, how will EA understand how prevalent or how important the issue is? If only two people speak up, it's a rare issue than isn't very important. If 10 people mention it, it gets more attention. No one is saying you need to troll. But speaking up isn't any harder than patting them on the back repeatedly saying how nice the foundation is...

    In my games big men play like they should. The one's with the skills to do what you've listed will do it, the others play defense and rebound as expected.
    Not when Tyson Chandler is taking shots that he would never take. Many people can attest to this. Not when WTF is forced to double Deandre Jordan. Not when Andrea Bargnani tries to post up Jaokim Noah. Trying to spin baseline for a reverse layup.

    Again, I'm only pointing out things that people have acknowledged that fly in the face of statements such as that.

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    • loadleft
      Rookie
      • Oct 2005
      • 284

      #422
      Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
      This is what I'm talking about. Why wait? If you see the issue, and don't speak, how will EA understand how prevalent or how important the issue is? If only two people speak up, it's a rare issue than isn't very important. If 10 people mention it, it gets more attention. No one is saying you need to troll. But speaking up isn't any harder than patting them on the back repeatedly saying how nice the foundation is...



      Not when Tyson Chandler is taking shots that he would never take. Many people can attest to this. Not when WTF is forced to double Deandre Jordan. Not when Andrea Bargnani tries to post up Jaokim Noah. Trying to spin baseline for a reverse layup.

      Again, I'm only pointing out things that people have acknowledged that fly in the face of statements such as that.
      As far as the CPU foul problem, see my post in the patch thread and on the big men I can't complain about what I don't see. When I first started playing Live 14 I was having problems like that, well it was really everyone that went into the post torched me, whether it was bigmen or point guards but I took the time and just practiced post D until I figured out I was in the wrong positon, as I explained earlier. Once I got that figured out I don't see it anymore. As a matter of fact the only bigs that even attempt to post against me are the ones with skills. Like I got blew out by 22 by the Thunder a few games back but pretty much no one posted me up, it was Westbrook killing me from mid range.

      In real life, if I'm Dwight Howard and I stand beside Joel Anthony (basically out of position) and watch him score, he'd light me up, right? So why should it be any different in a videogame? I can't speak to what anyone else is seeing but that's what solved my problem and I felt a sense of accomplishment. If EA dumbs the game down and I just automatically stick to whoever comes in my vicinity, how is that sim?

      At any rate I appreciate the dialog man. Happy gaming!

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      • The Timber Wolf
        Rookie
        • Dec 2013
        • 77

        #423
        Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by loadleft
        As far as the CPU foul problem, see my post in the patch thread and on the big men I can't complain about what I don't see. When I first started playing Live 14 I was having problems like that, well it was really everyone that went into the post torched me, whether it was bigmen or point guards but I took the time and just practiced post D until I figured out I was in the wrong positon, as I explained earlier. Once I got that figured out I don't see it anymore. As a matter of fact the only bigs that even attempt to post against me are the ones with skills. Like I got blew out by 22 by the Thunder a few games back but pretty much no one posted me up, it was Westbrook killing me from mid range.

        In real life, if I'm Dwight Howard and I stand beside Joel Anthony (basically out of position) and watch him score, he'd light me up, right? So why should it be any different in a videogame? I can't speak to what anyone else is seeing but that's what solved my problem and I felt a sense of accomplishment. If EA dumbs the game down and I just automatically stick to whoever comes in my vicinity, how is that sim?

        At any rate I appreciate the dialog man. Happy gaming!

        This has been a great thread and it is genuinely cool to see you, WTF and Nick enjoy the game so much. Ultimately, that's all that matters. I have watched Nick's videos on youtube and the game looks good the way 'he' plays it. I think people obviously also have different settings (coach, tempo, defense etc) and that means different experiences. The defensive settings are very deep. Good thread. Glad to see people enjoying something so much. Patch + sliders and maybe more people will get on board.

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        • WTF
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 20274

          #424
          Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

          Believe it or not, but when Rudy Gay or Derrick Williams gets matched up with Jordan on the block, that size difference is huge. When you have a cpu ai that recognizes this, and a passer with the skill of CP3, he will get the ball to them. I have no other option.

          Or when I throw a zone defense out, and the cpu is picking me apart with a pass to the center of the zone, immediately hitting the low cutter.

          The Clippers play a real good game. Blake flashes high post often and looks for Jordan rolling from a screen for the alley. Happens constantly in real life, happened often to me in my virtual season.

          Everything isn't as black and white as you all are trying to make it seem.
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          #DropMeAFollow

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          • Earl1963
            MVP
            • Aug 2003
            • 1985

            #425
            Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

            Played 2k last night and all I could think about is how much I enjoy the pro's in Live 14. Pretty easy to over look the con's when you enjoy the pro's so much.
            Megatron

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            • DIRK41NOWITZKI
              Pro
              • Sep 2013
              • 956

              #426
              Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by Earl1963
              Played 2k last night and all I could think about is how much I enjoy the pro's in Live 14. Pretty easy to over look the con's when you enjoy the pro's so much.
              I did the same and totally agree with you. At one point in my 2k game I was wanting to go back to Live to get those "things" that they do really well that 2k doesn't do the best job of.
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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #427
                Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                Originally posted by WTF
                Believe it or not, but when Rudy Gay or Derrick Williams gets matched up with Jordan on the block, that size difference is huge. When you have a cpu ai that recognizes this, and a passer with the skill of CP3, he will get the ball to them. I have no other option.

                Or when I throw a zone defense out, and the cpu is picking me apart with a pass to the center of the zone, immediately hitting the low cutter.

                The Clippers play a real good game. Blake flashes high post often and looks for Jordan rolling from a screen for the alley. Happens constantly in real life, happened often to me in my virtual season.

                Everything isn't as black and white as you all are trying to make it seem.
                I don't think anyone has made it seem that way at all, sir.
                #RespectTheCulture

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                • KingTocco
                  Fino Alla Fine
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 3158

                  #428
                  Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                  We need a camera like NBA 2K14's 2K camera angle!!! It would make the game so much more enjoyable, please patch this in!
                  Fino Alla Fine

                  Lakers
                  Juventus

                  PSN: KingTocco

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                  • Boilerbuzz
                    D* B**rs!
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5154

                    #429
                    Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by WTF
                    Believe it or not, but when Rudy Gay or Derrick Williams gets matched up with Jordan on the block, that size difference is huge. When you have a cpu ai that recognizes this, and a passer with the skill of CP3, he will get the ball to them. I have no other option.

                    Or when I throw a zone defense out, and the cpu is picking me apart with a pass to the center of the zone, immediately hitting the low cutter.

                    The Clippers play a real good game. Blake flashes high post often and looks for Jordan rolling from a screen for the alley. Happens constantly in real life, happened often to me in my virtual season.

                    Everything isn't as black and white as you all are trying to make it seem.
                    I was just asking why you had to double Deandre. It was a criticism, but it did scream of him doing things in the game that he can't in real life. What's wrong with asking?

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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #430
                      Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by Earl1963
                      Played 2k last night and all I could think about is how much I enjoy the pro's in Live 14. Pretty easy to over look the con's when you enjoy the pro's so much.

                      You've said this about 10 different ways throughout this thread....what's the point of playing 2k with Live on your mind? Lol

                      You know what will really convince everyone that you are enjoying Live and that it should be taken seriously? When you don't have talk about the "other game", "other option", "other choice", "alternative" in all your complementary posts...

                      Until then, you just sound like you are trying to convince yourself...

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                      • Earl1963
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1985

                        #431
                        Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by DIRK41NOWITZKI
                        I did the same and totally agree with you. At one point in my 2k game I was wanting to go back to Live to get those "things" that they do really well that 2k doesn't do the best job of.
                        #1 thing that bothered me in 2k is the fact you can take up a lot of space on D with one player. You can guard 2 players so easily because there isn't enough space in the half court set for the offense to free themselves up. Huge con for me.
                        Megatron

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                        • Earl1963
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 1985

                          #432
                          Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          You've said this about 10 different ways throughout this thread....what's the point of playing 2k with Live on your mind? Lol

                          You know what will really convince everyone that you are enjoying Live and that it should be taken seriously? When you don't have talk about the "other game", "other option", "other choice", "alternative" in all your complementary posts...

                          Until then, you just sound like you are trying to convince yourself...
                          Nope! I spent $120 to own both games so that I can really see which one I like better, instead of going by what you guys tell me. So far Live 14 is winning.
                          Megatron

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                          • WTF
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 20274

                            #433
                            Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                            I don't think anyone has made it seem that way at all, sir.
                            Unfortunately they have.

                            Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
                            Not when Tyson Chandler is taking shots that he would never take. Many people can attest to this. Not when WTF is forced to double Deandre Jordan. Not when Andrea Bargnani tries to post up Jaokim Noah. Trying to spin baseline for a reverse layup.

                            Again, I'm only pointing out things that people have acknowledged that fly in the face of statements such as that.
                            I'm sorry, but WTF should be able to just hold his position against Jordan, and not have to worry about doubling. He's not that good even with his unworldly physical gifts.
                            And then, there's this gem:

                            So, you really don't feel it's scripted huh? Not even when dudes like Deandre Jordan require the need for WTF to actually double him in the post? Not even considering the foundation for this game is a SCRIPTING type system driven by Synergy stats and data? "Thou shalt take 20 shots this game because you did it last night even though you have 2 defenders on you all game!" Yes folks, once you see Synergy kick in the tendency data, you know who to stop and where. That alone has made the game too predictable. Doesn't matter because dudes start hitting impossible shots with 2 or 3 defenders in their grill. A player shoots 100% from the within 5 feet. All dunks in real life. But reverse lay ups in the game. Dudes like Deandre Jordan mind you.
                            Yet you try to point some of our impressions saying that unintentionally we have "outed" a negative aspect of the game. You are trying to justify your argument when you have NO CLUE, ZERO, why I am doubling down in the post on DeAndre.

                            Regardless, as an impression though, each time I turn on the game, it feels really good. Each team is a different animal, attacking you in different ways.

                            Synergy, unlike what's listed as above, is keeping guys playing to their strengths. Not telling them to shoot 20 times per game, just because they did last night. If that were the case, every game would play out the same.

                            On the contrary, my last 2 games against the Heat, one of them I held D-Wade to 2/12 shooting from the floor, my strategy was to back off of him. The next time I played him, same day, should have resulted in the same results if Synergy truly worked like that. No, he was attacking, and hitting this game. But he was attacking as D-Wade, doing things that D-Wade is doing.

                            I love playing the Heat in this game. Trying to figure out who is going to go off on me is a treat.

                            The game makes ME think about what strategy I want to use to try to stop things. That's why I'm enjoying this game as much as I am. It plays a really good game.

                            Agree with loadleft, it has the things that are important to "me" in a game. Just like Inside Drive. That game wasn't the prettiest of the 3 titles out during it's time, but it played the best game of SIM basketball. That's what this title is providing for me.
                            Last edited by WTF; 12-15-2013, 01:11 PM.
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                            • louie dogs
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 180

                              #434
                              Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                              I'm undecided whether to take it or not, I have read many negative opinions I wanted to ask you who have the game a few things:
                              1) It is true that during the game there is the festival of the dunks?
                              2) there were patches to improve graphics and gameplay?
                              3) It is true that the graphics seem even PS2?

                              sorry for the bad english I write from Italy

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                              • JoeDog10
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 341

                                #435
                                Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                                You've said this about 10 different ways throughout this thread....what's the point of playing 2k with Live on your mind? Lol

                                You know what will really convince everyone that you are enjoying Live and that it should be taken seriously? When you don't have talk about the "other game", "other option", "other choice", "alternative" in all your complementary posts...

                                Until then, you just sound like you are trying to convince yourself...
                                What's the point in coming to this thread repeatedly to chime in if you don't like the game? What's the point of playing this game for "comic relief" as another poster stated a few pages back?

                                I don't think he's trying to "convince himself" that he likes Live...it sounds more like he was trying to convince himself that he liked 2K.

                                For the handful of us that like the game and enjoy sharing our experiences here, there are a handful of people telling us that we shouldn't like the game.

                                I realize that an impressions thread doesn't mean everything has to be positive. But it's pretty annoying when you have some people in here putting a lot of time in with this game and posting their impressions, only to have people say that they are trying to convince themselves that they are liking the game, or telling them they aren't seeing what they say they are seeing.

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