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  • El_Poopador
    MVP
    • Oct 2013
    • 2624

    #526
    Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

    Originally posted by The Timber Wolf
    Just playing a game now as Houston and was thinking this was okay. Then, a moment of Colonel Kurtz like horror. I was fouled whilst driving and went to the line as James Harden. The camera zoomed in and I honestly let out a loud WTF as I saw Harden close up for the first time.
    This is the only online photo I can find, so please excuse the 2K photo here also. They are linked. EA's Harden is ATTROCIOUSLY bad. This type of stuff just kills the immersion.


    its weird because they actually have the skin texture almost perfect. i think its the eyes that make it look so off. and the cheekbones are too pronounced.

    Last edited by El_Poopador; 12-17-2013, 08:46 AM.

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    • Boilerbuzz
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      • Jul 2002
      • 5154

      #527
      Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

      See, comparing the graphics to PS2 is just over the top in my opinion.

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      • The Timber Wolf
        Rookie
        • Dec 2013
        • 77

        #528
        Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by Boilerbuzz
        See, comparing the graphics to PS2 is just over the top in my opinion.


        Some of the animations are PS2 level. There's stuff around the basket that is almost a decade ago type animations for a sports game. There's one "animation" where you seem to go from one side of the basket to behind the other that just looks wrong on every level.


        Conversely, some things like the Bobcats arena look GREAT. That court for the Cats is the best looking court I have seen in either next gen game.


        For what it's worth, he's my final thoughts on this game:


        1. Blocking is way, way, way, way too easy. You basically can't use a team like Houston or The Pacers in this game as it's just so easy to block shots with Howard and Hibbert. I had 11 blocks in a half using Dwight on my first game with them (SS level). It's just so easy to block the CPU.


        2. Pace is awesome.


        3. Pick and roll is sweet.


        4. Synergy is great / terrible. For a few minutes everyone plays and shoots from spots on the floor and it's very realistic. Then, a player just stands there and does nothing or walks out of bounds, or passes to a team mate standing out of bounds.


        5. Rebounding is terrible.


        6. Defensive contact is terrible.


        7. Coaches options are great.


        All up, hit and miss. More misses than hits unfortunately.

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        • WTF
          MVP
          • Aug 2002
          • 20274

          #529
          Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

          To each their own, but I find the rebounding to be phenomenal. I love finding my man and boxing out.
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          • gmac0322
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            • Aug 2009
            • 1650

            #530
            Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

            I agree. I can box out a close guard with Nene or Gortat and actually get the rebound. I hate having two big men under the rim and having a point guard get rebound. That happens rarely for me in this game

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            Last edited by gmac0322; 12-17-2013, 10:16 AM.

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            • Fiddy
              Twitch/YouTube: Fiddy14
              • Jul 2002
              • 12681

              #531
              Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by Williekemp15
              Am i crazy or does the overall speed of the game feel faster now? playing a game right now and the game feels really good to me.
              no, not crazy. i said the same thing to buddy when i popped it in the other day. seems like its flowing better or something. weird!

              Originally posted by pdawg17
              Been playing a lot of Live but today I popped the other game in (had been a couple of weeks) and I felt like everything was in fast-forward. Amazing how different the two games are...
              i felt the same way, after the above comment of mine i then put the other game in. i was a train wreck bc of the speed and quickness. i slowed that down to 40 game speed and 40 quickness to match up, boom, spot on for me. now i can go back and forth and be content with the speed of both games.

              i told ExtremeGamer today on twitter, that this is the most fun i have had with a sports game in a long time. i dont know why, just sucked into this one.

              its obviously not perfect as we all stated before, it might not even be at its highest point a tad below average, but it dont matter to me.

              if i had to grade NBA Live 14 id give it between a 6.8 and 7.0. its not a full out C so to speak, but a very high C-.

              if the graphics were on par with next gen (maybe after patch?) and animations were a bit more smooth i then would give this a 7.8 to 8.0. IMO that would be very fair. (the other game gets an 8.5 to 8.8 from me..)

              its awesome to have choices again. hope it stays this way for years to come and we see it come back to other sports games as well.
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              • GisherJohn24
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                • Aug 2008
                • 4600

                #532
                Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                I just wish it wasn't so herkey jerkey.. ya think ea will make another game next year? Or patch this one for like 2 years?

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                • nick_sr
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1934

                  #533
                  Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by blackceasar
                  So I have a friend who's brother works for a major game publisher (that I won't mention here). While he is NOT a dev, he's not too many steps removed from the dev side of things to answer a few questions I had for him through my friend.

                  I asked him about patches and just what truly is "patchable" in games. I asked him because I've seen a lot of people on here with the "omg! it's a great foundation of a game! Let's hope we see some graphics upgrades in a future patch!"

                  Now I've been a console and PC gamer for a loooooong time. I understand a lot about the difference between console and PC games and the guy I asked has worked on titles for both PC and console. So I was curious about just what really is patchable and his response (I will paraphrase) was this:

                  I asked him about NBA Live 14 in particular and he told me that especially on consoles, majority of the time the things you will see patched are things that can be scripted and coded. For example if this were Madden and the AI never called a time out when they were on my 20, down by 1 with the clock running. He said things like that are easily patchable. Then he went on to actually patching "content" into a game. He said for example if Live or 2k14 didn't have an all star weekend with dunk contest, etc.. he said that could also be patched in (if they aren't trying to tie it to you spending more money or VC, etc). He said thats a bigger patch because you are not just bringing new code into the game but you're bringing new 3d models into the game (same textures but different models) because you have to have artwork to support the all star weekend, etc.

                  So then he got into patching actual graphics. Not changing colors on shoes, or changing a number on a jersey or fixing a tat.. he said those are patchable too because you do not have to mess with the engine the game is built upon.

                  So then he talked to me about actual player models. I asked him could a patch truly be dowloaded, your game reboots and POW, the player models and animations look much better. He said no. He said two paths start when a game is being built from the ground up or for the first time. He said one team is going down the true "dev" path.. scripting logic, events, triggers, etc. Another team is building the engine and the textures that will be needed to work within that engine. He said this is why you've never seen a version of Madden get "patched in better player models", if the model gets better its because the engine got tweaked first to accomodate the visuals that get layed in on top (or injected into) the engine. He said thats why you have to wait until say Madden 2007 to come out to look better than Madden 2006... because a patch just isn't going to go THAT FAR with changing a game thats already been locked down for the most part.

                  He said this is also why a bunch of people that if they didnt like a game like say Madden 2007 because of the player models and such that they are the same people that would bash a company like EA Sports for 2008 not being that much different than 2007 in that dept and then 2009 not being that much different that 2008. Basically what he was getting at with me was that there's a "baseline" where they start with a title, and subsquent titles that come off of that will be tweaks to that baseline.. you wont see a major life-changing, industry defining change until that publisher decides it's time to completely tear the engine itself apart enough to make truly significant changes at that level of difference.

                  So in a nutshell, he basically told me from his own experiences that while he doens't think its impossible for you to see Live look more realistic towards a 2k level (just talking textures and visuals) he said it's not likely.. he said that big of a change starts with engine overhauling and THAT is one of the costliest and time consuming things to do, and it's why you don't really see that happen in a patch. He also said while he thinks next year's will look better than this years, Subsequent versions 15, 16 and 17 will probably have the same engine, and therefore similar models (with slight tweaks and upgrades) in brand new retail versions in the coming years, not in a patch.

                  Basically he's saying while the game can be patched to play better, and you can actually add new content... you're probably going to be stuck with what you get in the player model and animation department. He said things like the arena floor could get upgraded but they are not part of a motion-captured engine if that makes sense. He said this is why Madden 25, even current gen was a pretty decent jump from Madden 13 and 12, etc in the engine, animation and engine dept.. he also said current gen Madden probably was a benefactor of what they were doing for Next gen.. then probably just dailed down and took out things that HAD to be dailed down or taken out for the current gen version.

                  Again, he does NOT work for them, he's just been in the industry for a while now and gave me his 2 cents based on what he's learned over 9 years in. Better IA? to a degree.. but you're more than likely stuck with your player model quality, animations, etc until next year and even then, its if EA wants to invest that time and money into really breaking apart their engine to fix it...not sure if they will.. because it's one of the foundations every Live is expected to be built on for the foreseable years.

                  let's hope they can patch in the rookie game during all star weekend. I get an alert telling me my rookie has been selected to play in the game but there's no game smh
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                  • WTF
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20274

                    #534
                    Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by El_Poopador
                    its weird because they actually have the skin texture almost perfect. i think its the eyes that make it look so off. and the cheekbones are too pronounced.



                    I actually think when the nose wrinkle isn't there from the face animating, that Harden looks really good. Skintone, skin texture, etc looks really well done. But when his face animates, then it gets a little less like him.

                    I don't know, I can't really place it.

                    Also, just saw Dwight Howards signature Free Throw. It looks good too. So I've seen 3 easily recognizable FT's now.

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                    • WTF
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20274

                      #535
                      Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Now that I look at the pic on the phone, I think Hardens face needs to be a tad longer, not as squished.
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                      • Behindshadows
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                        • Nov 2004
                        • 8055

                        #536
                        Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by WTF
                        Now that I look at the pic on the phone, I think Hardens face needs to be a tad longer, not as squished.
                        Honestly other than hair, he looks nothing like Harden...he looks like Kimbo Slice...or whatever that guys name is...

                        A lot of the players just look terrible compared to their real life counter parts..this graphics engine better not make it to Live 15.

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                        • The 24th Letter
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                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #537
                          NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                          Compared to guys like Westbrook & James.....Harden looks ok...
                          Last edited by The 24th Letter; 12-17-2013, 09:23 PM.

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                          • Boilerbuzz
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5154

                            #538
                            Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by Behindshadows
                            Honestly other than hair, he looks nothing like Harden...he looks like Kimbo Slice...or whatever that guys name is...

                            A lot of the players just look terrible compared to their real life counter parts..this graphics engine better not make it to Live 15.
                            Come on, BS. All look same!

                            Seriously, I don't think the graphics engine will change any time soon. I could be wrong. Maybe they are not taking full advantage of it at the moment.

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                            • Super Glock
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                              • Jul 2006
                              • 776

                              #539
                              Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by GisherJohn24
                              I just wish it wasn't so herkey jerkey.. ya think ea will make another game next year? Or patch this one for like 2 years?
                              Ya this is my question as well, is this series done or will there be NBA Live 15? I guess besides EA no one really knows. I like the game (demo)but don't want to make the full investment unless this series continues.

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                              • Earl1963
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                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1985

                                #540
                                Re: NBA Live 14 Has Arrived, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by Super Glock
                                Ya this is my question as well, is this series done or will there be NBA Live 15? I guess besides EA no one really knows. I like the game (demo)but don't want to make the full investment unless this series continues.
                                You really should buy this game, IMO it's the best hoop game out right now.
                                Last edited by Earl1963; 12-17-2013, 10:46 PM.
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