NBA LIVE 14 plays like real basketball (Watch closely)

[313DBoy]

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uhhh this thread starts with video evidence. i was controlling one of the players in the video. i later explained in detail what i did wrong and why i got blown by. you know what response i got from boiler? "you're over analyzing it"

see, i can win if the goal posts will keep being moved. people say they love game A or b all the time with no real reason why. they say they hate or love certain aspects of certain games. but rarely give detail as to why or why not. i gave detail. people tried to play it like they couldnt see the video that was posted. and just started repeating what they have said in other live negative threads. i'm like we have more then enough of those to complain about the stuff you dont like. i'm talking what pieces to the game that work well. most just cant let that sink in because they are on a "i hate live"kick. meaning nothing live does is good. NOTHING. and dont say presentation. we're talking about actual game play.

i also admitted when i made the incorrect move with the controls. once i learned more i no longer get blown by like i did when i first picked the game up.

this is how it went. i read OS. cause i sold that ps4 the day i got it. for a flip.
i already knew i was getting the xbox the follow weekend. so i wanted to see/hear what you guys were saying about the game. i went in knowing good and well live was not going to be on par looks wise with 2k. if it did. that would've been a miracle. i was going in already looking for glitches and issues. but i did want to see if the foundation of legit basketball was there or not. if not. game over.. live is done. if so. okay boys we have something to work with going forward.

i saw the later. we have something to work with going forward.

i picked the game up after reading posts talking about "hey, is it just me or can anyone stop the cpu from just blowing by them on the perimeter?"

i heard this over and over again. next thing i know. i'm getting blown by when i pick the game up for the xbox. and i'm like wow. something isnt right.

i was waiting on that collision bump feel you get with 2k now. the problem is, people dont remember that we complained about that bumping being a bit to much or over exaggerated in 2k before. it still is. but some may prefer over exaggerated reality as opposed to reality which you cant feel.

prime example. i play ball right. i'm defending a guy in real life. if he breaks me down off the dribble. i'm not going to FEEL his body touch mines in anyway shape or form. now can i crowd the guy then feel him? YES. but if i'm not all up on him. i wont feel him. live allows you to feel the guy if you're up on him and intentionally bump him or if you completely cut off his drive move and make the offensive guy run into you.

if you want to get on his shoulder and slightly lean on him. you can do that in live. and you will feel the similar 2k vibration of the bumping.

most people obviously didnt know this. if they did they would not have said early on "you cant feel anything".

people obviously didnt read and take head to what EA posted about the controls and how you must play defense to stop offensive guys from killing you. i posted this in this thread. once i read it. and applied it. my defense was a lot better. but it only took me 2 games to figure it out. why? because #1 me having a good bball iq on defense in real life. already told me "SHADE this guy so he cant go that way...wait so how do you shade in LIVE? can you even do it in live. like you can in 2k?"

the answer is Yes you can. once i figured it out. now i have to choose correctly which side to shade. how much distance to give the guy based on what he can do on the court and what his tendencies are.

this is why it was a lot easier for me to figure out the defense then it was for some others.

you can know the controls and still get torched because you still dont know how or when to play the angles on defense. that takes a certain level of hoop intelligence a lot of people dont have. which is why EA put that thing out about the controls. if you read that and pay attention they are teaching the fundamentals of defense.

sorry this isnt some pick up and play game like it use to be.

it just isnt. but i'm ok with that. some people dont like that aspect of it. and they can have that opinion.

Where EA made a huge mistake with that style of realistic gameplay and defense/offense. is not having a practice gym and/or tutorials(similar to what 2k has). not having that area to work on your REAL basketball game. is the worst move live made. its even worse then not having great graphics like 2k. here's why. even people like me who will over look a pretty face. cant overlook the lack of a practice area and tutorials. thats just plain stupid of them.

and there's no excuse because people were playing "bouncetek" with 1 guy in a gym. so i know you already have a gym setup with one guy. where we could work on stuff. its almost as if they had the training mode. but someone forgot to add it back in before the game was put up for sale. like "ooops, hey fellas i think i forgot to re-insert the training mode."

Stop it man......... Please, stop it, u are driving me freaking crazy. My mans, THERE IS NOTHING THAT LIVE DOES THAT 2K DOES NOT. THERE IS NO STRATEGY INVOOVED IN PLAYING LIVE, 2K REQUIRES STRATEGY TO THE FULLEST IF U PLAY AGAINST SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THE GAME OF BASKETBALL AND PLAYS DEFENSE. In live, on the highest difficulty, you can turbo and dunk every posession. There is no way possible to do that against the CPU in 2k, the ONLY exploit is the 3's in 2k.

I hate to be forced to debate with dudes like you. All that "attacking the foot" stuff, "attacking and defending at angles", "playing real basketball", need to know the game of basketball to succeed ect. All of the lil bs you are spilling is necessary in 2k, not this grabage that EA released. No disrespect mods, i aint tryin to get in trouble, but i cant let this guy talk this garbage with no proof, and constantly talk about proof. There is nothingvto prove, gameplay wise, 2k is probably the realest representation of a sport in a realistic manner. Dude literallyvsaid that 2k is a pick up and play arcade game lmao, i just cant let these lies fly. Please Kingpnp, show me the proof of 2k being an easy pick up and play arcade game where players dunk constantly. 2k14 is the most balanced sports game on the market, period.

Sorry for my rant if it made anyone uncomdortable, but 2k is close to a masterpiece simulation wise (the 3's are the only exploit and thats stoppable) and that goes for current and next gen. I rented Live, have it here right now, and there is nothing sim about it, NOTHING. Animations make sports games, EA fed u guys the biggest bunch of BS with the evil animations talk, for a game that was cancled lmao. U can realistically break any animation in 2k, you can realistically defend any animation in 2k, thats what makes.it the most beautiful and realistic game on the market.

[The 24th Letter]

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My version of the truth is you're a multiple time previously banned user that never got permission to be here so in short what I'm not willing is to allow you to come here and continue this charade


Galaxy Note 2

Damn, kingpnp....

[kingpnp3]

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Damn, kingpnp....

what he means is. i will refuse to allow someone to come onto a board full of 2k fans and tell us live has some realistic aspects to it. no it doesnt. end of discussion, get in line or get out.
thats pretty much the mantra i'm hearing. and if thats how it really has to be. then fine by me. yall can keep holding hands and skipping down the road together. because no one will ever be able to say anything contrary to popular opinion.

before any of you hop on this bandwagon. just remember. this board isnt called 2ksports.net or .com its called operationsports.

this thread we're in is under the "NBA LIVE" title
not 2k(but i hate live) title.

i'm not in the 2k section talking up nba live.
i'm in the nba live section stating that there are some good things about the game. while also admitting its flaws. but thats not good enough for the "bash live" crowd.

but i'm the troll.

lets see how many people have been in this very thread on bash patrol. only 3 or so people have come in here with their own opinion and backed it up with examples. whether they agreed with me or not. the rest of you are literally running into every live thread you can and making sure you remind us how bad it is. i'm in the "how do you fix..." it thread. guys in there crying about how it sucks. now which parts suck and how those things need to be fixed. nope. that would make to much sense. they rather waste their time and energy crying about a game they hate, probably didnt purchase to begin with. i'm darn near going to say we need a thread of posters proving they actually own the game. i bet that would expose a lot of you real quick.

but i'm the troll. lol.

sorry, i will never agree with the masses if i have a difference of opinion based on what i see. NEVER.
i'm not a sheep. i think for myself and i would hope you guys did the same.

[23]

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Another 2k blah blah blah part

I said exactly what I meant

You whom have been banned more than once already have come here once again against the tos of this site without admin permission creating yet another account continuing where you were the last time you were banned and continue to show why you were gone in the first place.

You can write your books at another site because this is your last day doing it here.

Galaxy Note 2

[kingpnp3]

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Another 2k blah blah blah part

I said exactly what I meant

You whom have been banned more than once already have come here once again against the tos of this site without admin permission creating yet another account continuing where you were the last time you were banned and continue to show why you were gone in the first place.

You can write your books at another site because this is your last day doing it here.

Galaxy Note 2

exactly. just like i said before. if you cant come with a legitimate reply to all the video evidence, basketball references i posted in the original post. then first try personal attacks. dang that didnt work. then just try to keep repeating "it sucks, it sucks" without any explanation. "it sucks cause everyone else says it sucks cant you see that. it sucks"

well that didnt work. so now let me call mommy and daddy to save us. "please ban this guy. we cant take it any more. he wont agree with us. *tears and more tears*"

what a shame. lol

remember this 23, if you want a place where everyone agrees. call it operationagrees.com

23 it seems as if you're trolling me. have you spoke on the thread on the original post in this thread? did you bring examples and detail to why you dont agree or agree? if not. shouldnt you be some where else playing police officer? or are you just trolling me?

[Boilerbuzz]

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You brought my name up, so i will clarify my position: you got blown by because you stepped out of the lane between the player and the basket. It's that simple. It had nothing to do with your weight, feet, hands, or hips outside of the fact that they were all not in the right location on the floor. And my other point was your posting basic coaching points doesn't prove you know jack about basketball.

And you are trolling. You're just here to stir **** up because you can't be that dense to think anyone outside of the Live zealots is going to buy into your drivel.

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[Gosens6]

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exactly. just like i said before. if you cant come with a legitimate reply to all the video evidence, basketball references i posted in the original post. then first try personal attacks. dang that didnt work. then just try to keep repeating "it sucks, it sucks" without any explanation. "it sucks cause everyone else says it sucks cant you see that. it sucks"

well that didnt work. so now let me call mommy and daddy to save us. "please ban this guy. we cant take it any more. he wont agree with us. *tears and more tears*"

what a shame. lol

remember this 23, if you want a place where everyone agrees. call it operationagrees.com

23 it seems as if you're trolling me. have you spoke on the thread on the original post in this thread? did you bring examples and detail to why you dont agree or agree? if not. shouldnt you be some where else playing police officer? or are you just trolling me?

How is he trolling you? LOL! You have multiple accounts, you've been banned before, it's against the rules to make another account. You refuse to acknowledge that and you continue to spew this NBA Live Vs. 2K nonsense.

Get over it, honestly I don't think anyone really cares about this game anymore. Most of us are happy with making the right choice this year. If you like Live, like it all you want, no one really gives a damn to be honest. It's a game, and you're taking it more than TOO serious.

[WTF]

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As much as I hate to break up the party, creating new accounts to circumvent a ban will result in another ban. It's not operationagrees.com, but it is operationagreestotheTOS.com. You signed up, you agreed to the Terms of Service which clearly state, if you're banned, you may not create another account as it's against the Terms of Service.

[313DBoy]

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As much as I hate to break up the party, creating new accounts to circumvent a ban will result in another ban. It's not operationagrees.com, but it is operationagreestotheTOS.com. You signed up, you agreed to the Terms of Service which clearly state, if you're banned, you may not create another account as it's against the Terms of Service.

He was so much fun though lol. Entertaining as hell, I think 23 let him stay around for that reason. Im all for laying down the law and all, but in this case, I think it was OK to let slide for a lil longer. Dudes posts were so serious lol.

[jsg]

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Thread of the year

[HOLLIDAY1183]

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Wow.

I'll say this, I appreciate mods letting him stay as long as they did, if that's the case. Just so entertaining. "Attack the foot" stuff was just amazing and hilarious especially when considering this game.

Forget who made up the term, but the "Struggle Live Apologists" just lost a member.

[Boilerbuzz]

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Wow.

I'll say this, I appreciate mods letting him stay as long as they did, if that's the case. Just so entertaining. "Attack the foot" stuff was just amazing and hilarious especially when considering this game.

Forget who made up the term, but the "Struggle Live Apologists" just lost a member.

The "attack the front foot" was funny based on the video. ********.

[Vni]

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Lol that dude was funny.

[Flightwhite24]

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Lol that dude was funny.

I'm miss him personally. He was more entertaining than the game that's for sure


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[nick_sr]

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actually most in here dont want to see live succeed. thats not true at all. most in here want to see live fail. because if it does fail they have something to whine about. yes thats right. some people like to whine for the sake of whinning. some people are also 2k fans to the point where they never want any competition. even though they hide behind words "well i know competition is good." i've seen the same thing with live fans before live folded the tent back in the 08', 09, days.

some people are so hardcore fans of a title and not of the genre called video game basketball. that they will hate on anything they see. if it looked pretty. they will nit pick it. and try to find every little glitch they can to say "see its not better then....[insert which ever game they love most]"

and i dont care what people say in their replies. i've been around long enough, not just in OS, but other sites and talking to people. to know how people will lie and say thats not the case but evidence shows thats how they are if you pay good attention to what they say about the game they like vs the game they dont like.

and yes, a lot of people dont have high basketball iq's. yes i sad it. call it what you want to call it. i've played enough basketball in my lifetime. as well as seen enough basketball in my lifetime to know the difference.

MOST people have a LOW basketball IQ.

i'll take it a step further. a lot of nba players. have a really LOW basketball IQ.

i'll take it a step further. a lot of coaches (kiddy leagues, ymca leagues, park/rec league, high school, travelling team, juco, semi pro, nba d league, to the NBA)... are not great basketball minds just because they are around basketball a lot.

its not just how much you've played or how much you read a playbook. its how you break down those things to defeat your opponent.

basketball is a game of chess. its not checkers. can you survive playing checkers? sure. if the opponent is on a checkers level as well.

i'll prove it to you. most coaches lose, more then they win. and ist not just about personnel. they are just bad coaches. its that simple.

a lot of guys are coaches because they've been around the game for a very long time and they know a lot of people around the game so people ASSUME "oh he should make a good coach." SHOULD is the key word.

a lot of nba players are really just hard workers and geniuses as picking up certain moves. rather then good at being chess players on the court. on top of the fact they are extremely gifted from birth with speed, quicks, hops, strength, height/length/size, agility. or all of the above.

what these players are good at better then average joes. is seeing a move that someone does and they can literally pick the move up in a matter of a week or less rather then 2 months it will take the average ball player. but they dont know where to apply said move. unless they work really hard on it and practice it 100's of times a day.

there's a difference to me doing big man moves in the post(drop steps, up and unders). a 100 times per day vs a defender. working on my game. then going into the game and playing 100's of games per year. to the point where i know most people's tendencies that defend me. so i use two moves over and over. then when i meet a defender that can stop my two moves i go into a shell because i dont know how to go to another counter move. i havent worked on another counter move 100's of times vs 100's of defenders like i did those other moves.
vs
me learning those same moves and killing people with said moves. then meeting this guy that stops my first initial move and my 2nd intial move. then i know "oh, i need to give this guy this other move." only a very few players understand that. those players have HIGH basketball IQ's. same applies to defensive minded guys.

many players dont know how to play the angles on defense. they are just really long, really quick, athletic, and agile. but once they go up against a high IQ guy on offense. their defense looks like crap all of a sudden. WHY? because they were relying on their physical talents more so then their bball IQ.

great post! I share the same thoughts