NBA LIVE 14 plays like real basketball (Watch closely)

[El_Poopador]

Re: NBA LIVE 14 plays like real basketball (Watch closely)

im seeing so many pointless things in this thread from both sides its not even funny.

ill start with the hop step issue. its obviously overpowered. but i would imagine there is a way to patch it. besides, we all remember the super spin dunk from 2k11/2k12 (i cant remember which one). clearly they fixed that so why cant live be given the same chance?

im another one of the people who didnt like live 10 as much as the majority. the things they were attempting to address with elite (being sucked into animations for example) were pretty much my main issues with live 10. it looked ok in motion but when youre actually playing it felt too scripted.

showing individual examples isnt going to prove anything one way or the other. the spin off and dunk video a few pages back is one single example. if the footplanting is that consistent then great but showing one clip wont prove anything.

the same goes for the rotation of the big man in that same clip. even in the real nba players miss assignments and are late to help. if that happens all the time then its broken. but once in a while is realistic. one example doesnt help either side of the argument.

the "yoyo" ball clip on the other hand is something where one example means something since the ball physics/being separate from the player is the base of the game. i would hope thats a bug that happens very rarely but if that is consistently reproducible then they have some explaining to do.

its obvious that most people went into this game with their minds already made up. those who hate live/ea and expected complete crap are more sensitive to the negatives while those who wanted the second coming of jesus (in a good way not bynum ) will see mostly positives. both sides are relatively quick to dismiss arguments from the opposing side.

the only thing i can really say is go in with an open mind whether you want the game to be good or not. try to see both the positives and negatives because there are plenty of both. remember that this is the first game for this team and it was made in a normal development cycle even though they didnt have a solid game to build from. try to keep the criticism constructive because it seems like the dev team actually wants to make a great game.

[El_Poopador]

Re: NBA Live

I spent this past weekend logging NBA Live hours. I logged about 12 hours of solid gameplay and here's my opinion.

The Likes:
1. Live is definately not as bad as everyone wants to make it out to be. There are times when Live really thrives. The defensive rotations are to die for (on All Star and Superstar) settings.

2. I love the adjustments that the AI makes. For example, they make different adjustments IN GAME that keeps you on your toes. (going over the screen vs. going under, vs. wedging hard etc.)

3. Court Q is awesome, and I found that teams generally play the way they're supposed to. I played vs. Golden State and they played run and gun style with Curry and Thompson jacking up 3's. I played against Denver and couldn't get a rebound because the Animal grabbed 15.



4. The ESPN presentation. The way, the crowd is in to this game, with Breen and Van Gundy making the calls is way awesome. Sure they can get repetitive at times, but honestly what sports game commentators don't?

5. Rosters and NBA Rewind. Having a game that is always updated is great. Hate the fact that sometimes I end up with the guy named point guard, but it's not a deal breaker. NBA Rewind is a pretty cool idea allowing you to replay games and change the outcomes, or make the achievements.

6. Soundtrack. The music on NBA Live is better than that of NBA 2k. Especially if you like underground rap.

The dislikes:
1. The hopstep is Flat out ridiculous in this game. Its a super power and allows you to get where you want to get to on the floor. That being said, the shot won't always go in, the way shots or blocked sure you'll get to the spot, but it doesn't always mean the shot is going on.

2. Graphics. This game definately doesn't look as good as it should look with it being next gen. In my opinion Gameplay is most important. The game can look great, but if it doesn't perform well I don't need it. Graphics is something Live will improve with going forward.



In conclusion, NBA Live has laid down the foundation for a very good in future years. People have to realize that it takes time to really make a good game. NBA Live doesn't have the budget of a Madden, Fifa, or even Battlefield, so it's they certainly have some challenges to work through. That being said this game to me is a breath of fresh air. Nba 2k has been the same game since 2k11, and they hit their stride in 2k12. 2k13 was the same game as the previous 2 but they let Jay Z produce the game musically. 2k14 is a step back in my opinion. It's pretty and looks good, but the series has seemed to take a step backward on the court going into next gen. As it stands, I think it just depends on your flavor and what each individual likes, but I don't understand the hate for NBA Live and why people talk down on other people because they like the game.


Overall I'd give NBA Live a 7.5 and I'd give NBA 2k a 7.8. But as an owner of both games, I think Live is more fun, and when played the right way more realistic. No matter what game you have people will be able to cheese, so I don't consider what you people call "sim" anymore. Sim can mean so many different things to so many people. It's a widely over used term amongst sports gamers.

i think 7.5 is a little high personally because they do have a long way to go. its a solid start but there are a lot of things that need a lot of work. at this point i think its closer to a 6.5 maybe 7 at the most.

[Earl1963]

Re: NBA LIVE 14 plays like real basketball (Watch closely)

I'm having way more fun with Live than the other option. Looking forward to more daily roster updates.

[nick_sr]

Re: NBA Live

I spent this past weekend logging NBA Live hours. I logged about 12 hours of solid gameplay and here's my opinion.

The Likes:
1. Live is definately not as bad as everyone wants to make it out to be. There are times when Live really thrives. The defensive rotations are to die for (on All Star and Superstar) settings.

2. I love the adjustments that the AI makes. For example, they make different adjustments IN GAME that keeps you on your toes. (going over the screen vs. going under, vs. wedging hard etc.)

3. Court Q is awesome, and I found that teams generally play the way they're supposed to. I played vs. Golden State and they played run and gun style with Curry and Thompson jacking up 3's. I played against Denver and couldn't get a rebound because the Animal grabbed 15.



4. The ESPN presentation. The way, the crowd is in to this game, with Breen and Van Gundy making the calls is way awesome. Sure they can get repetitive at times, but honestly what sports game commentators don't?

5. Rosters and NBA Rewind. Having a game that is always updated is great. Hate the fact that sometimes I end up with the guy named point guard, but it's not a deal breaker. NBA Rewind is a pretty cool idea allowing you to replay games and change the outcomes, or make the achievements.

6. Soundtrack. The music on NBA Live is better than that of NBA 2k. Especially if you like underground rap.

The dislikes:
1. The hopstep is Flat out ridiculous in this game. Its a super power and allows you to get where you want to get to on the floor. That being said, the shot won't always go in, the way shots or blocked sure you'll get to the spot, but it doesn't always mean the shot is going on.

2. Graphics. This game definately doesn't look as good as it should look with it being next gen. In my opinion Gameplay is most important. The game can look great, but if it doesn't perform well I don't need it. Graphics is something Live will improve with going forward.



In conclusion, NBA Live has laid down the foundation for a very good in future years. People have to realize that it takes time to really make a good game. NBA Live doesn't have the budget of a Madden, Fifa, or even Battlefield, so it's they certainly have some challenges to work through. That being said this game to me is a breath of fresh air. Nba 2k has been the same game since 2k11, and they hit their stride in 2k12. 2k13 was the same game as the previous 2 but they let Jay Z produce the game musically. 2k14 is a step back in my opinion. It's pretty and looks good, but the series has seemed to take a step backward on the court going into next gen. As it stands, I think it just depends on your flavor and what each individual likes, but I don't understand the hate for NBA Live and why people talk down on other people because they like the game.


Overall I'd give NBA Live a 7.5 and I'd give NBA 2k a 7.8. But as an owner of both games, I think Live is more fun, and when played the right way more realistic. No matter what game you have people will be able to cheese, so I don't consider what you people call "sim" anymore. Sim can mean so many different things to so many people. It's a widely over used term amongst sports gamers.

great post! my problem is with the guys who play 5mins and say the game isn't good. you have to put in time to learn the controls and you will see how goood the game actually plays. ppl are too busy bashing the game for its graphics and player models to actually try and learn how to play the game.

[nick_sr]

Re: NBA LIVE 14 plays like real basketball (Watch closely)

I can't believe this guy is typing so much to defend this **** show of a game.

Feels like troll or EA employee

be truthful. how much time did you spend on playing the game?

[nick_sr]

Re: NBA Live

I spent this past weekend logging NBA Live hours. I logged about 12 hours of solid gameplay and here's my opinion.

The Likes:
1. Live is definately not as bad as everyone wants to make it out to be. There are times when Live really thrives. The defensive rotations are to die for (on All Star and Superstar) settings.

2. I love the adjustments that the AI makes. For example, they make different adjustments IN GAME that keeps you on your toes. (going over the screen vs. going under, vs. wedging hard etc.)

3. Court Q is awesome, and I found that teams generally play the way they're supposed to. I played vs. Golden State and they played run and gun style with Curry and Thompson jacking up 3's. I played against Denver and couldn't get a rebound because the Animal grabbed 15.



4. The ESPN presentation. The way, the crowd is in to this game, with Breen and Van Gundy making the calls is way awesome. Sure they can get repetitive at times, but honestly what sports game commentators don't?

5. Rosters and NBA Rewind. Having a game that is always updated is great. Hate the fact that sometimes I end up with the guy named point guard, but it's not a deal breaker. NBA Rewind is a pretty cool idea allowing you to replay games and change the outcomes, or make the achievements.

6. Soundtrack. The music on NBA Live is better than that of NBA 2k. Especially if you like underground rap.

The dislikes:
1. The hopstep is Flat out ridiculous in this game. Its a super power and allows you to get where you want to get to on the floor. That being said, the shot won't always go in, the way shots or blocked sure you'll get to the spot, but it doesn't always mean the shot is going on.

2. Graphics. This game definately doesn't look as good as it should look with it being next gen. In my opinion Gameplay is most important. The game can look great, but if it doesn't perform well I don't need it. Graphics is something Live will improve with going forward.



In conclusion, NBA Live has laid down the foundation for a very good in future years. People have to realize that it takes time to really make a good game. NBA Live doesn't have the budget of a Madden, Fifa, or even Battlefield, so it's they certainly have some challenges to work through. That being said this game to me is a breath of fresh air. Nba 2k has been the same game since 2k11, and they hit their stride in 2k12. 2k13 was the same game as the previous 2 but they let Jay Z produce the game musically. 2k14 is a step back in my opinion. It's pretty and looks good, but the series has seemed to take a step backward on the court going into next gen. As it stands, I think it just depends on your flavor and what each individual likes, but I don't understand the hate for NBA Live and why people talk down on other people because they like the game.


Overall I'd give NBA Live a 7.5 and I'd give NBA 2k a 7.8. But as an owner of both games, I think Live is more fun, and when played the right way more realistic. No matter what game you have people will be able to cheese, so I don't consider what you people call "sim" anymore. Sim can mean so many different things to so many people. It's a widely over used term amongst sports gamers.

one more thing, they should bump the volume and the crowd noise.

[nick_sr]

Re: NBA LIVE 14 plays like real basketball (Watch closely)

I'm having way more fun with Live than the other option. Looking forward to more daily roster updates.

are you learning the controls or are you the guy holding the turbo button and scoring at will? define "fun"

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: NBA Live

great post! my problem is with the guys who play 5mins and say the game isn't good. you have to put in time to learn the controls and you will see how goood the game actually plays. ppl are too busy bashing the game for its graphics and player models to actually try and learn how to play the game.

I've played the game for days, and the game isn't good. It has some good elements and ideas, but the execution was just not good. Now what?

It's clear that the only "great" posts, to you, are the ones that ultimately compliment the game. You guys really are zealots. It's really kind of creepy how you turn a blind eye and allow EA to skate by in the fact of huge glaring issues. This mentality is why Madden is garbage. Thanks, guys. Way to lead the next gen of games.


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[King_B_Mack]

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You do realize that the first people to bring 2k into most of these discussions are the ones trying to defend Live, right? Post #7.

Just saying.


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And right on cue, Buzz.

im seeing so many pointless things in this thread from both sides its not even funny.

ill start with the hop step issue. its obviously overpowered. but i would imagine there is a way to patch it. besides, we all remember the super spin dunk from 2k12. clearly they fixed that so why cant live be given the same chance?

I'm having way more fun with Live than the other option. Looking forward to more daily roster updates.

Classic.

I've played the game for days, and the game isn't good. Now what?


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You know how this works. You're a *****. Or you're just making up that you played the game. Or you went into it with a closed mind. You can't stand Live or EA so it was never going to be good to you. And of course, you don't know basketball.

Funny how I never see the huge basketball experts in here in the actual basketball forums, talking hoops with the rest of us.

[The 24th Letter]

NBA LIVE 14 plays like real basketball (Watch closely)

I'm having way more fun with Live than the other option. Looking forward to more daily roster updates.

I would think so, you haven't played the "other option"...

[J.C]

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be truthful. how much time did you spend on playing the game?

You want the truth? I haven't spent 1 second playing this game. But then again I don't need to play a sport sim game of a sport I'm a fan of to know whether or not it is completely gimped. The tell tale signs are animations and how the A.I deals with certain circumstances presented to them during a game.

It is in no way representative of the NBA, the teams, or the individuals which play the game.

I've purchased and played enough EA games only to get burned and watch this video to know it's just more of the same old same old.

I've seen people in here even say Fifa is their only quality series. Well as someone who grew up playing and supporting soccer I can safely say that that isn't really saying much. real life players don't have the super human reflexes inside their gimpy body posture to over head kick a ball from their own penalty area with their back to the opposition goal only to fire a pin point accurate pass to their team mate in the opposing area. I could go on all day on how EA just totally doesn't get it. Year in and year out they produce sports "sims" where their players constantly defy the laws of physics and cheese you with cheap goals, baskets and touchdowns. I let my eyes and experience make my judgement of this travesty of a game they tried to dupe customers into buying with a lack of gameplay footage, review embargo's and release day demo's.

I may not have played the game. But everything considered. It's pretty obvious I didn't need too. Just look at the backlash. And I knew this all along, no hindsight involved.

[El_Poopador]

Re: NBA LIVE 14 plays like real basketball (Watch closely)

Classic.

You know how this works. You're a *****. Or you're just making up that you played the game. Or you went into it with a closed mind. You can't stand Live or EA so it was never going to be good to you. And of course, you don't know basketball.

Funny how I never see the huge basketball experts in here in the actual basketball forums, talking hoops with the rest of us.

way to take my post out of context.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: NBA LIVE 14 plays like real basketball (Watch closely)

way to take my post out of context.

How did I take your post out of context? Buzz was making a point about people bringing up 2K typically being the ones defending Live. Right on cue, you come in behind that post of his bringing up 2K to try to justify something done wrong in Live. If dudes are running up and down the court backwards with their heads spinning around like the Exorcist in 2K, that doesn't somehow make it okay that they're doing the damn Michael Jackson Thriller dance back and forth in Live.

[blackceasar]

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I still don't understand what King Kong or whatever his name is on here means when he says things like "OS is very 2k slanted and has been for a long time". What exactly does "2K slanted" exactly mean? I would assume (at least for myself), I'm not loyal to a particular game company. I buy what I feel is the best option for that year. We aren't buying toilet paper here homie. In 2103 Charmin and Cottonelle were the same brands and toilet papers as they are in 2014. Charmin is softer on my butt, so I prefer that. If Cotoonelle made a TP that was even softer than Charmin, id buy that instead. But those are the kinds of things that don't come out every year with a "new" version of it.

Now back to video games. Video games, especially the sports genre comes out with a new title on their respective franchises every year. Why? Because it's different than the year before and hopefully "better" than the year before. I personally prefer and enjoy 2k's basketball franchise more than Live over the past few years because FOR MYSELF 2k has put out a better product that's closer to meeting MY NEEDS for a basketball video game.

If you swapped box art and logos and 2k's game was actually Live 14, and Live 14 was actually 2K's game, I would have bought Live 14 this year, and wondred what in the hell happened to 2k this time around.

In the world of VIDEO GAMES, people are not loyal to BRANDS.. they are loyal to QUALITY. King Ding doesn't seem to understand the difference. I buy FIFA over PES because for me FIFA is a better experience for what I want in a soccer game.. if PES does it better next year, I will be buying PES.

King you really should take a class on business and marketing so you can really understand the difference between brand loyalty and consumers spending their money on the best product. There IS a difference. So stop saying OS is slanted one way or another just because they gave the better review to the better game their eyes... and think about this.. chew on it.. wrap it up.. take a picture or whatever you want to do with it.......

IF.. OS was soooooo "2k slanted" then how come every year for quite some time now OS' review of MLB The Show is scored considerably higher than 2K Sports' baseball franchise?

I still think you are a dev at EA that's just butt hurt.

[Sundown]

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more realistic basketball (watch closely)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD04g4tBm4k

Wow! Bouncetek actually advertised real ball physics and no ball warping. That's practically a straight up lie!