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  • JazzMan
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    • Feb 2012
    • 13547

    #121
    Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

    Originally posted by btrapp
    This is a very interesting thread. I didn't know "butt-ugly" was actually an "art direction". If that's the case, then live nailed it. Good job ea!!!!
    I guess the NBA Live team is the Picasso of graphics.
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    • GisherJohn24
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 4583

      #122
      Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

      Originally posted by JazzMan
      Personally, I think the graphics are terrible. To me, Live 14 looks like it released on the 360 in 2010. I think the Live 10 comparisons say it all, really.

      If your simulation basketball game that you released in 2009 can compete graphically with the simulation basketball game that you just released in 2013 on Next-Gen consoles, you have a problem. And it's not like NBA Live 10 blew people away graphically at the time, either.
      This is a fair statement. Terrible is a bit harsh. I would just say disappointing for next gen. In the end though, I'm more concerned with the gameplay tweaks they have planned more than their graphic tweaks

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      • Earl1963
        MVP
        • Aug 2003
        • 1985

        #123
        Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

        Originally posted by DreamAgain
        because *gasp* maybe some of us own both games?
        Then, *gasp* just play the game you're happy with.

        Glad I could help.
        Megatron

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #124
          Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

          Again - please stop making this "us vs. them."

          I am not going to ask this again.
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          • DreamAgain
            Rookie
            • Oct 2008
            • 403

            #125
            Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

            Originally posted by King_B_Mack
            Well they are on record as saying they sacrificed graphics for gameplay. I think they know what it looks like.
            Considering the gameplay is about as stripped down as it gets for a sports title in 2013, I'm not sure why EA would even make this comment.

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            • shutdown10
              Rookie
              • Oct 2009
              • 290

              #126
              Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

              Originally posted by DreamAgain
              Considering the gameplay is about as stripped down as it gets for a sports title in 2013, I'm not sure why EA would even make this comment.

              I agree! It's not like the gameplay is great because its only mediocre to me playing the game the past few weeks with the update. If they want to have a shot at selling more copies of this title in the future, then they must improve the graphics, animations, and game-play exponentially. I did not invest 500 dollars on a PS4(extra controller, psn code) to pay $60 for games like this on a yearly basis.

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              • HOLLIDAY1183
                Rookie
                • Oct 2008
                • 459

                #127
                Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                Well they are on record as saying they sacrificed graphics for gameplay. I think they know what it looks like.
                I didn't mean it that way.

                To clarify, let's say EA is creating a player, court, the net, sneakers and accessories etc. What I'd like to know is, are they intentionally going for a look or *art direction* as some are assuming, that isn't realistic or photoreal, but rather are intentionally creating this *cartoony hyper-saturated color* look they currently have and that was also present in Live 10.

                Is it purposeful as an "art direction" or, do they actually think this is in fact realistic looking?

                Now that I think about it, why would they render such great looking photorealistic courts, use real player portraits, use the real ESPN swipes and overlays, and then *choose* to NOT to try to recreate the most true-to-life players, instead making them all super ripped and use this highly saturated bright color palette?

                It would seem to me this isn't "art direction" though it might make some feel better that maybe they're not so much *off* but that they *meant* to do it. It would seem EA thinks this is photorealistic.

                But I would hope not.

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #128
                  Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                  maybe they should zoom the camera a bit...

                  I was just playing with the Kings wearing sleeved jerseys...and I legitimately could not tell who my 3, 4 & 5 were for most of the game..

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                  • MarvinOida
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 4859

                    #129
                    Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                    I like the art style. There's always a colorful vibe with Live, 10 did this pretty well, but 14 has also done a good job with it. To hell with "realistic graphics" for Live, they can focus on building a fundamentally good basketball game and the modes around it.

                    The art team can always tweak the graphics.


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                    • logieuk
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                      • Jan 2014
                      • 38

                      #130
                      Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                      The game does have its moments when its on par with 2k, so its in the game just needs to be unlocked for all viewing angels

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                      • Earl1963
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1985

                        #131
                        Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                        Seems this thread has run its course, lock it. The graphics are good in my eyes, I prefer them over the other game to be honest.
                        Megatron

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                        • The 24th Letter
                          ERA
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 39373

                          #132
                          Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                          Originally posted by Earl1963
                          Seems this thread has run its course, lock it. The graphics are good in my eyes, I prefer them over the other game to be honest.


                          Originally posted by Earl1963
                          Then, *gasp* just play the game you're happy with.



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                          • Earl1963
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 1985

                            #133
                            Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                            Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                            Take your own advice.
                            That's exactly what I do. You won't find me in the other forum complaining constantly about that games short comings. I love this game so there is no need for that.
                            Megatron

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                            • cwash020
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 182

                              #134
                              Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                              Originally posted by logieuk
                              The game does have its moments when its on par with 2k, so its in the game just needs to be unlocked for all viewing angels
                              Having played both (I only own Live though) I don't think Live can hold a candle to 2Ks player models. That being said, I feel like when you have it on the ESPN camera the floor and crowd really stand out and rival 2K. If fact, they might be even better than 2K. But the players look average at best. BUT...when you zoom in, players don't look as bad as what some people/critics are saying.

                              Lighting is probably Live's biggest issues. And I do wish they would tone don't on the gloss, particularly with players with darker skin.

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                              • cwash020
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                                • Sep 2009
                                • 182

                                #135
                                Re: Graphically, the game doesn't look as bad as people say.

                                Forgot to mention spacing - Live clearly has this down pat.

                                I wish they added one more camera angle which zoomed in and panned down slightly more than the ESPN cam.

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