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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #31
    Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

    Originally posted by monkey
    I tried it for two games...

    Nets on Dynamic = J Kidd got 6 assists.

    Nets on motion = J Kidd got 2 assists.

    Hey monkey, I got similar results w/ the Pistons. Question, how many minutes are u playing?

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    • Court_vision
      Banned
      • Oct 2002
      • 8290

      #32
      Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

      Originally posted by aholbert32
      Hey monkey, I got similar results w/ the Pistons. Question, how many minutes are u playing?
      10 min quarters.

      I really think the play sets don't work this year...

      The plays seem to break down etc and it's all 'solo' stuff?

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      • Court_vision
        Banned
        • Oct 2002
        • 8290

        #33
        Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

        Originally posted by aholbert32
        Hey monkey, I got similar results w/ the Pistons. Question, how many minutes are u playing?
        10 min quarters.

        I really think the play sets don't work this year...

        The plays seem to break down etc and it's all 'solo' stuff?

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #34
          Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

          Originally posted by monkey
          10 min quarters.

          I really think the play sets don't work this year...

          The plays seem to break down etc and it's all 'solo' stuff?

          Yeah... it think people need to give up on the playsets. They just result in players bunching up and one on one play. Dynamic plays great this year so I dont see the need for playsets/

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #35
            Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

            Originally posted by monkey
            10 min quarters.

            I really think the play sets don't work this year...

            The plays seem to break down etc and it's all 'solo' stuff?

            Yeah... it think people need to give up on the playsets. They just result in players bunching up and one on one play. Dynamic plays great this year so I dont see the need for playsets/

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            • AdamBa17
              Banned
              • May 2003
              • 1112

              #36
              Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              Yeah... it think people need to give up on the playsets. They just result in players bunching up and one on one play. Dynamic plays great this year so I dont see the need for playsets/
              Thank you! You just made my day with that comment!
              I can't stand the way the game plays with these playbooks. Its SO much better to play with Dynamic on. Its a more fun and actually MORE realistic game with it on!

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              • AdamBa17
                Banned
                • May 2003
                • 1112

                #37
                Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                Yeah... it think people need to give up on the playsets. They just result in players bunching up and one on one play. Dynamic plays great this year so I dont see the need for playsets/
                Thank you! You just made my day with that comment!
                I can't stand the way the game plays with these playbooks. Its SO much better to play with Dynamic on. Its a more fun and actually MORE realistic game with it on!

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #38
                  Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

                  Originally posted by AdamBa17
                  Thank you! You just made my day with that comment!
                  I can't stand the way the game plays with these playbooks. Its SO much better to play with Dynamic on. Its a more fun and actually MORE realistic game with it on!
                  Game #5: I played the Raptors.. raised Rafer Alston to an 88 OA rating.....he got 5 assists while being in foul trouble and missing the end of the third and the beginning of the 4th quarters. I beginning to think this may be a solution

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                  • aholbert32
                    (aka Alberto)
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 33106

                    #39
                    Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

                    Originally posted by AdamBa17
                    Thank you! You just made my day with that comment!
                    I can't stand the way the game plays with these playbooks. Its SO much better to play with Dynamic on. Its a more fun and actually MORE realistic game with it on!
                    Game #5: I played the Raptors.. raised Rafer Alston to an 88 OA rating.....he got 5 assists while being in foul trouble and missing the end of the third and the beginning of the 4th quarters. I beginning to think this may be a solution

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                    • delanceyj
                      Pro
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 638

                      #40
                      Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

                      Good work man.. Any more info on this, as who, where, when to edit?

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                      • delanceyj
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 638

                        #41
                        Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

                        Good work man.. Any more info on this, as who, where, when to edit?

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                        • SonicMage
                          NBA Ratings Wizard
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 3544

                          #42
                          Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

                          Offensive Awareness is definitely not the problem. Just play with the 80's All Stars, nearly half those guys have Offensive Awareness in the 90's. I saw 12 total assists from them in a 12 minute quarter game. Magic had 2 and his OFFAWR is 99.

                          I am positive that this game now has problems distinguishing what is an assist and what isn't. Three times in one game I saw the same move...Point guard bounce passes into the center in the post. Center takes one power dribble towards the basket, fakes one way, then takes a jumpshot the other way, all in one motion. The move takes less than two seconds. Most real NBA statisticians would see this post-entry pass as an assist but the game does not.

                          I am not saying this is the only problem with the assist count but obviously things are not going to get perfect if the game messes up on counting statistics like this.
                          NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                          Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                          Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                          Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                          Link to Ratings All-time

                          Discussion found here

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                          • SonicMage
                            NBA Ratings Wizard
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 3544

                            #43
                            Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

                            Offensive Awareness is definitely not the problem. Just play with the 80's All Stars, nearly half those guys have Offensive Awareness in the 90's. I saw 12 total assists from them in a 12 minute quarter game. Magic had 2 and his OFFAWR is 99.

                            I am positive that this game now has problems distinguishing what is an assist and what isn't. Three times in one game I saw the same move...Point guard bounce passes into the center in the post. Center takes one power dribble towards the basket, fakes one way, then takes a jumpshot the other way, all in one motion. The move takes less than two seconds. Most real NBA statisticians would see this post-entry pass as an assist but the game does not.

                            I am not saying this is the only problem with the assist count but obviously things are not going to get perfect if the game messes up on counting statistics like this.
                            NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:

                            Sonicmage NBA 2K18 Ratings 2017-18 season
                            Link to Ratings 1996-2017
                            Link to Ratings 1973-1996
                            Link to Ratings All-time

                            Discussion found here

                            Comment

                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #44
                              Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

                              Originally posted by Sonicmage
                              Offensive Awareness is definitely not the problem. Just play with the 80's All Stars, nearly half those guys have Offensive Awareness in the 90's. I saw 12 total assists from them in a 12 minute quarter game. Magic had 2 and his OFFAWR is 99.

                              I am positive that this game now has problems distinguishing what is an assist and what isn't. Three times in one game I saw the same move...Point guard bounce passes into the center in the post. Center takes one power dribble towards the basket, fakes one way, then takes a jumpshot the other way, all in one motion. The move takes less than two seconds. Most real NBA statisticians would see this post-entry pass as an assist but the game does not.

                              I am not saying this is the only problem with the assist count but obviously things are not going to get perfect if the game messes up on counting statistics like this.
                              Sonic,

                              You cant just change the OA rating and think its gonna work. You have to follow all three steps that are in my first post. I'm not sure its a definite fix but its sure has worked for me in 5 games.

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                              • aholbert32
                                (aka Alberto)
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 33106

                                #45
                                Re: Possible Solution to the Assist Problem

                                Originally posted by Sonicmage
                                Offensive Awareness is definitely not the problem. Just play with the 80's All Stars, nearly half those guys have Offensive Awareness in the 90's. I saw 12 total assists from them in a 12 minute quarter game. Magic had 2 and his OFFAWR is 99.

                                I am positive that this game now has problems distinguishing what is an assist and what isn't. Three times in one game I saw the same move...Point guard bounce passes into the center in the post. Center takes one power dribble towards the basket, fakes one way, then takes a jumpshot the other way, all in one motion. The move takes less than two seconds. Most real NBA statisticians would see this post-entry pass as an assist but the game does not.

                                I am not saying this is the only problem with the assist count but obviously things are not going to get perfect if the game messes up on counting statistics like this.
                                Sonic,

                                You cant just change the OA rating and think its gonna work. You have to follow all three steps that are in my first post. I'm not sure its a definite fix but its sure has worked for me in 5 games.

                                Comment

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