Another new patch

[HendoPlays3]

Re: Another new patch

No problem man. Also you said majority of the time you get chased down on the open dunk?. I get some dunks can be blocked but try tuning offensive in air collision, defensive in air collision. this adjusts the how often in air collisions occur rather than always having body to body. Check out my sliders

http://forums.operationsports.com/forums/nba-live-sliders/913964-nba-live-18-sliders.html

I've put in 15+ hours just tweaking sliders to find a good medium, also note game speed is 60 but 60-70 is fine. If you try them let me know what you think.

I tested out you're sliders last night and earlier today. And they are great! Makes the game feel better, and I definitely saw less blocking and less offensive/defensive in air collisions.

The only thing I kept the same was shooting sliders for inside, mid range, and 3pt shooting I kept everything at 30, along with my layups and dunks between 20-30. I notice consistent shooting percentages in the low 40's. Everything else is on point though!


"Only The Strong Survive"- Allen Iverson

[strawberryshortcake]

Re: Another new patch

Just noticed today this seems to be working, at least it is on Xbox, I will try later on PS4 but I was able to simply point at the desired player with the left stick and then press and hold LB and call for the screen and that selected played came over and set the screen.


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Your post got my attention enough to go give it a test run. But unfortunately, it's still not responsive (PS4).

NBA Live 18 demo, latest patch, gameplay 9/3/17
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[FearlessKaz]

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This latest patch really smoothed out the catching and passing animations. Before there were a lot of those sped up zippy passes with a teammate 2 feet beside you, I'm now seeing more appropriate ones. Same with the jumpshots, especially the momentum shots. They've lessened the little hitchy jump step the player would do. It's not completely alleviated but it's a lot better.

[mitsurugi_78]

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Your post got my attention enough to go give it a test run. But unfortunately, it's still not responsive (PS4).

NBA Live 18 demo, latest patch, gameplay 9/3/17
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It's working for me on PS4. Maybe delete and redownload the game...no idea why it wouldn't be working for you.


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[mitsurugi_78]

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Your post got my attention enough to go give it a test run. But unfortunately, it's still not responsive (PS4).

NBA Live 18 demo, latest patch, gameplay 9/3/17
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Looking at your video, it looks like you're not holding the screen button L1, I see you initiate it and they start to come set the screen, but then they run away. You have to hold it the entire time, even while you use the pick to dribble around the guy setting it. If you let go at any time they will run back to where ever they are supposed to be or space the floor.


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[WTF]

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strawberry, it's working fine on my PS4 copy. With that said, it wasn't working as well as I had liked earlier, but I switched to a new controller (brand new) and it's working excellent. I'm wondering if it's controller related.

Lastly, I do find that the directional passing leaves some to be desired sometimes. Seems like it passes to a guy not near where I'm pointing. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough

[mitsurugi_78]

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strawberry, it's working fine on my PS4 copy. With that said, it wasn't working as well as I had liked earlier, but I switched to a new controller (brand new) and it's working excellent. I'm wondering if it's controller related.

Lastly, I do find that the directional passing leaves some to be desired sometimes. Seems like it passes to a guy not near where I'm pointing. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough

I agree, I'm more of a direct pass person, even in the other game, I rarely use directional passing. 99% of the time I use the direct passing where you hit a button to first bring up the player icons then hit chosen player button. The controls for the pick and roll with chosen players is a bit clumsy.


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[king doe]

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The game in a lot of ways is very very realistic, player tendencies is on point. superstars
Play like superstars, kd, curry, klay, lebron and kyrie all move and play like themselves. I seen the cpu take multiple pull up and step back midrange jumpers in live 18, something I've been wanting but something they they haven't consistently done In the past couple lives.

This is really becoming one of my favorite basketball games ever

[strawberryshortcake]

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Looking at your video, it looks like you're not holding the screen button L1, I see you initiate it and they start to come set the screen, but then they run away. You have to hold it the entire time, even while you use the pick to dribble around the guy setting it. If you let go at any time they will run back to where ever they are supposed to be or space the floor.
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strawberry, it's working fine on my PS4 copy. With that said, it wasn't working as well as I had liked earlier, but I switched to a new controller (brand new) and it's working excellent. I'm wondering if it's controller related.

Lastly, I do find that the directional passing leaves some to be desired sometimes. Seems like it passes to a guy not near where I'm pointing. Doesn't happen all the time, but enough

It's working for me on PS4. Maybe delete and redownload the game...no idea why it wouldn't be working for you.

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New, better controller, still isn't getting the job done. I decided to fully set a screen on these even if the player wasn't highlighted to show that screens I can set, but the desired player I want setting a screen isn't working. Let me rephrase that, i can get the desired highlighted player to come set a screen at times, but it's not consistent and not pinpoint precise where I can accomplish what I would like to do in 2k. I also have a request below from both of you guys. Let me rephrase, that the desired player I want setting a screen isn't consistent. But if I want to do what I want to do in the below 2k videos, it's practically impossible if I simply keep my ball handler stationary and not moving.

Live 18 Demo 9/4/17, new (better) controller
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Notice at 1:52 mark. I am able to do what I want initially (have Klay come partially to almost set a screen but I pass him the ball. That's fine. But then if I immediately want to have the player in the green/triangle icon up at the corner three to come set a screen or partially make his way towards me, it's impossible to do it in Live because the controls aren't as specific as in 2k. Secondly, even if I tried getting the teammate highlight with the green icon (at around 1:55 mark) it wouldn't have been possible at all. Wish there was a "icon teammate specific" screen button.


Before I consider redownloading, can both of you guys post a video sort of replicating what I'm doing in both 2k footage. Have the teammate furthest away come set a screen. The desired teammate must have a teammate between him and your ball handler. Next, have three different teammate come set a screen but pass them the ball and do this three times with three different teammates before shooting the ball sort of like how I did it in my second 2k video.

Have the situation like so, have the teammate in the green box come set a screen and you/the ball handler standing close to where Curry is near half court. There must be a teammate where the blue box is, or somewhere close. Just a teammate in between the desired screener and the ball handler.

Both of these 2k video are what I'm referring to hoping for a similar replication in LIve 18. Please capture sequence and post video. Would absolutely appreciate it. Please make note (most important) that there is a teammate between you and the player you want setting a screen. And if possible, do the sequence extremely quick to a certain extent especially during the passing sequences.


Click on spoiler tag to show the 2k video in question.

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[strawberryshortcake]

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Note: I still want to see my above request done in Live 18 though using both those 2k videos as reference blueprints. Also see if you guys can do it without having the ball handler move towards the desired player; just have the ball handler remain stationary.


Words: "Cant" vs "Precise" vs "Inconsistent."

Updated. My wording was probably not correct. The proper word should have been precise. The ability pick the specific screener is not precise and sometimes inconsistent. Sure, I can get the player that I want setting the screen but it's not precise and can be inconsistent.

I have included a better example (Live 18 demo video down below) of trying to execute what I could do in 2k. But it lacks the precision on immediate consistency. Plus, I also have to move my ball handler towards the desired player which I kind of don't really want to if possible.

First sequence on offense. I wanted to have Durant come set a screen so I could pass him the ball. I do it, but it's not precise. Watch how I have to move Curry towards the baseline and pretty much almost step out of bounds before I can execute the pass to Durant. Overall with the very first sequence I do what I want to do in 2k but it's not precise and not at the correct moments when I want it done. That's why it looks sloppy.

Second sequence, at around 0:46 mark. When I had Draymond Green at the top of the key, I wanted to have Durant come running towards me (using the screen button) so I could pass him the ball. Notice my white highlighter. Difficult just trying to highlight Durant. Yes, I could have simply used icon passing, but the ability to use the screen button allows me to have Durant moving towards me. Those are some examples. Watch the entire video, yes, I can get the player to comes set a screen but it's not precise on the spot and sometimes can be very inconsistent.

This is why having the ability to activate a specific button directly over the top of the player head like 2k would have made things more precise. Wish it was tap LB/L1 button to bring up player icon (triangle, square, circle, cross, and LB), then hold the corresponding button to have the player come set a screen. That would essentially make things more precise. The directional analog isn't always precise nor consistent. And in order to keep in the spirit of live pick/screen and roll mechanism, as soon as I release the triangle, square, circle, cross button, that player will also roll to the basket.

And to be even more specific about "precision and inconsistency." The analog stick simply highlighting the off-ball teammate doesn't work sometimes, you might have to push the analog stick towards the baseline or back towards half court just to "clamp" onto your desired teammate. As you can see in parts of the video, even when the desired player is highlighted, the screen button isn't registering. The analog stick simply doesn't "lock" onto the player when they're selected. It's also difficult to lock onto to your off-ball teammate when there are multiple teammates in the line of sight between the ball handler and your desired teammate. There's got to be a better way to precisely select the off-ball teammate you want. And last but not least, the analog highlight doesn't lock into the player you want as soon as you release the stick -- this is why you'd see a lot of fidgety white circle highlights in my videos; jumping from one player to the next.

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EDIT: Here's another video:

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[DonWuan]

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Strawberryshortcake it never worked for me
I've used old/new controllers and remote play. Always the center unless it's a set play.

Wanted to link shot attempt by zaza.

https://youtu.be/3v_95Lk6kNc

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[KingWeigy23]

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I tested out you're sliders last night and earlier today. And they are great! Makes the game feel better, and I definitely saw less blocking and less offensive/defensive in air collisions.

The only thing I kept the same was shooting sliders for inside, mid range, and 3pt shooting I kept everything at 30, along with my layups and dunks between 20-30. I notice consistent shooting percentages in the low 40's. Everything else is on point though!


"Only The Strong Survive"- Allen Iverson

Thanks mate i appreciate the feedback. It took a while to tweak around. I'm glad you've tried them and tweaked them to your style of game, that was my whole point.
I think once a few slider options are tweaked right it can have a ripple effect through other sliders and the whole feel of the game in general. Its crazy how changing one thing can make a huge difference.
I find ive been having really realistic team boxscores.

Enjoy man and thank you again!.

[strawberryshortcake]

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I can't stress enough... Sliders, sliders, sliders. With the right sliders this game is so great. Not to mention you need to play great D. I personally haven't experienced ZaZa reeking havoc but when he has it's my fault not the game. It's all about balance, creating shots, working the ball and being smart. I haven't had this much fun in a basketball game in a while. I feel like i have freedom when controlling the player. I know other's may not agree but i'm pumped for the full game.

Sliders is certainly going to be our best friend, but ...

... in order to have a standardized baseline for where the game currently stands on its own, it would be more meaningful and beneficial to the development team if impressions were from a pool using the same exact slider set. Operationsports is only a subset of NBA Live 18 players.

Considering there are so many different slider variables. One person's slide set may look completely different from the next, and the next, and the next. Whose impression would the developers use to make gameplay adjustments? Wouldn't it make mores sense to give one's impression off of the developers default slider set? Unless everyone plays with person A's slider set, it only makes sense if all impressions were strictly based on the default.

This is why I'm not going to fiddle with any slider set until the game is release and all patches have been dispatched. Ongoing impressions will be based on default slider set put out by the developers.

Strawberryshortcake it never worked for me
I've used old/new controllers and remote play. Always the center unless it's a set play.

Wanted to link shot attempt by zaza.

https://youtu.be/3v_95Lk6kNc

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Try moving the ball handler first in the direction of the teammate you want setting a screen with the left analog stick. While holding onto the left analog stick as you push towards the desired teammate, now hold onto the LB button (PS4). That should work. I know it can become fidgety and inconsistent, but the key (unfortunately) is to move the ball handler towards the desired teammate you want setting the screen.

[KingWeigy23]

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Sliders is certainly going to be our best friend, but ...

... in order to have a standardized baseline for where the game currently stands on its own, it would be more meaningful and beneficial to the development team if impressions were from a pool using the same exact slider set. Operationsports is only a subset of NBA Live 18 players.

Considering there are so many different slider variables. One person's slide set may look completely different from the next, and the next, and the next. Whose impression would the developers use to make gameplay adjustments? Wouldn't it make mores sense to give one's impression off of the developers default slider set? Unless everyone plays with person A's slider set, it only makes sense if all impressions were strictly based on the default.

This is why I'm not going to fiddle with any slider set until the game is release and all patches have been dispatched. Ongoing impressions will be based on default slider set put out by the developers.




Try moving the ball handler first in the direction of the teammate you want setting a screen with the left analog stick. While holding onto the left analog stick as you push towards the desired teammate, now hold onto the LB button (PS4). That should work. I know it can become fidgety and inconsistent, but the key (unfortunately) is to move the ball handler towards the desired teammate you want setting the screen.

Absolutely fair point. I guess i've been changing sliders to understand what each slider does and the effect it has on the game. Before the full game drops i will try everything back on default and see if i like it but at this stage i'm enjoying the sliders i have tweaked. That's the beauty of an individuals experience of the game.