NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

**mitsurugi_78** · 09-05-2017, 11:50 PM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Originally posted by strawberryshortcake

Appreciate the two teams.

My gameplay impression is still heavily focused on the screen button being not as responsive or better words being not as precise and not as consistent as I would like. This actually hinders my ball movement and passing game. It's not as pretty as I could make it.

If the screen button remains intact as it currently is in this state. It's going to be extremely difficult for me run Live 18 for the entire year. I might preorder the game, but I honestly don't know how much playing time I'll put it. Because of the lack of automatic constant player movement, my ball movement game sort of suffers. I can definitely initiate teammate player movement, but it's simply not as free flowing like the Warriors or San Antonio Spurs ball. There's a finesse to the Warriors/Spurs offense and it's incredibly difficult to execute it with the screen button "lack of consistency response" in its current state.

If only there was a player specific screen button activation, it would make the offense a much more elegant flowing offense. Tap L1, icon above players' head, hold corresponding player icon to have them motion towards me to come set a screen. Or some type of mechanism to get my other teammates to come meet the ball. But even with the addition of this "other" mechanism, the screen button needs to be more responsive and we need to be able to consistently call teammates in the corner (far, far, far away) to come set a screen. The analog stick simply doesn't lock onto the highlighted player and buttons would be far more accurate/precise than the analog stick.

Yes, I've already tried a brand new controller. Same results, same experience.

Two of my post regarding the screen button in the following thread.
http://forums.operationsports.com/fo...w-patch-9.html

Side Note: For NBA live 19. I would seriously consider implementing Fifa's change of direction immediate footplant technology.

If you didn't know, you can also call screen plays by double tapping the d-pad right on offense for the screen play. Who ever you select by icon will then get a screen from another player to get open.

I know it's not exactly what you looking for but I've found it to work pretty good in some situations.

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**RayRay34** · 09-06-2017, 01:22 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Played a few games tonight after not playing in a while. First thing I want to mention is the shooting....playing on all-star it's too hard to hit a shot, even if you are open. Move it to pro and you hit everything. Find a happy balance please. Also I want to use the right stick shooting so bad but you make it so touch with all the right stick dribbling. I also think the floaters and a layup or dunk need to be changed if using the right stick...to many times my player goes for a floater when he should be dunking or laying it up. I do love the post D now though and the fact that left side and right side layup and the hand you use can make a huge difference. It was nice to play with 2 new teams because they do play different styles and it shows. Liking it EA, maybe with some tomba sliders or so!even tweaks of your own the shooting can get adjusted and I can play on all star and be successful.

**seemoe** · 09-06-2017, 02:12 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

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**lareka** · 09-06-2017, 02:16 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

MAJOR PROPS TO EA for listening to players and updating the "demo" several times and make the game better before release.

In this day and age this is how you make a video game:

They developed the game 2 years, spent good amount of time on it, released a demo early to let us taste how it feels like.

I'm very sure that most of us would doubt buying the game at release if they didn't release this demo and only released gameplay videos. We wouldn't be sure of it.

Not only did they improved the gameplay with the latest update, they added the 2 most exciting new teams that players can't wait to get their hands on ; BOSTON and HOUSTON.

Well DONE!

Keep up the good work EA, improve the gameplay when it's necessary.

In the end, companies who IMPROVE their game, who LISTEN to their customers ALWAYS WIN. I've been playing video games since 1996. I've seen how Call of Duty was the king, then BF came around and knocked them on the ground. I've seen the transition from FIFA to PES and then to FIFA back. Same with NBA LIVE to 2K and now going back to LIVE ? It can happen.. If 2K continues to do neglect the gameplay and if Live continues to build on game, we can see the same trend by seeing a lot of players switching to Live this year, next year and maybe the year after.

**lareka** · 09-06-2017, 02:18 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Originally posted by seemoe

Nice video !

**FerdBrown** · 09-06-2017, 02:19 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Originally posted by lareka

MAJOR PROPS TO EA for listening to players and updating the "demo" several times and make the game better before release.

In this day and age this is how you make a video game:

They developed the game 2 years, spent good amount of time on it, released a demo early to let us taste how it feels like.

I'm very sure that most of us would doubt buying the game at release if they didn't release this demo and only released gameplay videos. We wouldn't be sure of it.

Not only did they improved the gameplay with the latest update, they added the 2 most exciting new teams that players can't wait to get their hands on ; BOSTON and HOUSTON.

Well DONE!

Keep up the good work EA, improve the gameplay when it's necessary.

In the end, companies who IMPROVE their game, who LISTEN to their customers ALWAYS WIN. I've been playing video games since 1996. I've seen how Call of Duty was the king, then BF came around and knocked them on the ground. I've seen the transition from FIFA to PES and then to FIFA back. Same with NBA LIVE to 2K and now going back to LIVE ? It can happen.. If 2K continues to do neglect the gameplay and if Live continues to build on game, we can see the same trend by seeing a lot of players switching to Live this year, next year and maybe the year after.

I like the "listening to customer feedback" part. This is how companies succeed in "find the need and fill it" paradigm.

Thanks for listening and acting on our feedback.

**strawberryshortcake** · 09-06-2017, 02:21 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Originally posted by mitsurugi_78

If you didn't know, you can also call screen plays by double tapping the d-pad right on offense for the screen play. Who ever you select by icon will then get a screen from another player to get open.

I know it's not exactly what you looking for but I've found it to work pretty good in some situations.

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Good looking out. I've been using that for quite sometime already. Yep, I've been fiddling with the d-pad double tap in different directions. That's one method to get player movement going,

...but it's definitely not the same as having a precise screen button functionality.

This was basically, double tap right (screen), then double tap left on the d-pad (cut)
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This following sequence is a combination of using the screen button and double tap d-pad functionality, but it definitely didn't play out like how I wanted it to be. So, yes, I can get ball movement and player movement, but it would have been so much better, much more free flowing had the screen button been precise and consistent.
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Here's ugly ball movement that I would like to avoid. This is sort of what happens when the screen button functionality isn't responsive and I had to resort to other methods, while still trying to use the screen button functionality as a passing mechanism.
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**lareka** · 09-06-2017, 02:27 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

I played the game on superstar all the time until yesterday. I think ALL-star level is more balanced, I liked it better. They tuned down the blocks and unnecessary turnovers with the latest update, I liked it really.

Boston's flexible wings are really fun to play with:

Using Hayward at SG, SF, PF
Using Brown at SG,SF, PF
Using Tatum at SF,PF
Using Morris at SF, PF

depending on the actual situation is really fun.

Because of their low rating even though they were open, I missed some threes with Brown & Smart with great release which I liked even more. It's realistic. Bad three point shooters in real NBA can miss wide open threes from time to time, in 2K, if you get the correct release it's money, here they miss more often, it is more realistic. Defense can risk their shots.

**mt8732** · 09-06-2017, 02:35 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

I'm sorry this patch feels like all it did was make slider adjustments for the user in a bad way. Full court shots still always hit the rim, the computer makes everything i.e. in like 10 games I've played Tristan Thompson is yet to miss a free throw. Baseline moves are pretty much a 5 step travel but always result in an and 1 The shot contest with the right stick is still useless and one of the things they said to have changed seems only changed for the user and that's shot blocking. Kevin Love volleyball spikes everything as well as LeBron still just grabs shots out of the air with 2 hands. IT was also invited to the block party and he snatches offensive boards and cannot get his shot blocked. This update made the game worse. I shouldn't have to go in and change sliders after a patch that was supposed to fix community complaints c'mon EA you're so close to finally getting it right but this patch was a backwards move imo

**strawberryshortcake** · 09-06-2017, 02:36 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Originally posted by lareka

Spoiler

Because of their low rating even though they were open, I missed some threes with Brown & Smart with great release which I liked even more. It's realistic. Bad three point shooters in real NBA can miss wide open threes from time to time, in 2K, if you get the correct release it's money, here they miss more often, it is more realistic. Defense can risk their shots.

Just wanted to make a brief comment regarding both games' shooting successful. Personally that's definitely not true in my experience. With Live 18 if you've mastered the release point in Live 18, it's more money than the other game.

With the other game, I can practically have a perfect white release (i.e. release point is maybe 1 millimeter off from perfect, and I can still miss). But other times, I could be off by 1-2 whole centimeters and hit buckets. The major difference between Live and the other game comes down to paint buckets. In Live 18, as long as you are able to put up the shot in the paint, more often than not, it's going in even when contested. The wacky interior paint shots are still going in at a high success rate.

Obviously sliders will help but strictly on default, the success rate still seemingly is too high for both user and cpu (superstar level) on default slider.

**HendoPlays3** · 09-06-2017, 02:42 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Wow... Idk what they did but this game just feels 3x better than it did before. The movements seem crisper, the shots felt better, and just the game really had a much better overall feel. Really looking forward to next Friday!

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**FerdBrown** · 09-06-2017, 02:47 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Any other attributes we can see from player creation? Aside from vertical, speed, strength, and stamina? Will there be more in full game?

**lareka** · 09-06-2017, 02:50 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Originally posted by strawberryshortcake

Just wanted to make a brief comment regarding both games' shooting successful. Personally that's definitely not true in my experience. With Live 18 if you've mastered the release point in Live 18, it's more money than the other game.

With the other game, I can practically have a perfect white release (i.e. release point is maybe 1 millimeter off from perfect, and I can still miss). But other times, I could be off by 1-2 whole centimeters and hit buckets. The major difference between Live and the other game comes down to paint buckets. In Live 18, as long as you are able to put up the shot in the paint, more often than not, it's going in even when contested. The wacky interior paint shots are still going in at a high success rate.

Obviously sliders will help but strictly on default, the success rate still seemingly is too high for both user and cpu (superstar level) on default slider.

Just a quick note on green release from Live. Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart didn't have any green spot on an open 3 point shot. That's what I liked

**strawberryshortcake** · 09-06-2017, 03:18 AM

Re: NBA Live 18 Demo Game Update 1.06 Available Now, Adds Rockets & Celtics

Originally posted by lareka

Just a quick note on green release from Live. Jaylen Brown and Marcus Smart didn't have any green spot on an open 3 point shot. That's what I liked

I just double checked Marcus's release. He definitely has no green release point at all. He does for free throws though. I took a few tries with Marcus Smart but finally an outside bucket. I too like the no green spot for poorly rated shooters.

Very good catch.

Marcus Smart is like I don't care about no stinking green release. If EA's is not going to give me a green release, I'm going to make my buckets using my yellow release.
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**lareka** · 09-06-2017, 03:48 AM

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Thank you for verifying. Please verify Jalen Brown's bar as well.

I like it too, as long as he's open, i'll shoot with him with yellow bar too

Gotta shoot the open shot

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