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  • Money99
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2002
    • 12695

    #46
    Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

    Originally posted by coolcras7
    Both 2k and EA gave up on making a MLB games because they just could not match the level that the Show was producing.
    That's not the reason.
    After EA purchased the NFL rights, 2K overpaid for the MLB license to compensate and remain in the sports console race.

    I was invited to the Fight Night Community event years ago and spoke directly to an EA spokesman about the MLB situation.
    He told me that EA refused to pay what MLB was asking for an exclusive license.
    He said it would have been impossible to make a profit.
    Take-Two overpaid simply because they felt they had to after losing the bidding war for NFL rights.

    This is why is suspect that EA refuses to resurrect their MVP series; out of spite.
    (And most likely because MLB overvalues their licensing fees).

    SCEA wishes they had the sales MVP enjoyed (on the PS2 alone, let alone the extra sales they received on the Xbox).

    The Show is one of the best sports games produced today. But make no mistake, an updated MVP game would outsell The Show on the PS4.
    And they'd probably double those sales on the XB1.

    Regarding 2K, 2K13 had a lot of flaws, but it did a lot of things very well too.
    The problem with that series was it didn't look as pretty and the animations were wonky.
    I firmly believe that if 2K looked and moved as well as The Show, sales are a lot better and the series may still exist today.
    The gameplay under the hood was solid.
    Last edited by Money99; 11-26-2017, 09:46 PM.

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    • sarlndr
      MVP
      • Apr 2009
      • 1083

      #47
      Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

      An updated MVP would be in the same position Live is in right now on PS4. It would be going up against an established and polished franchise giant.

      It might outsell The Show in a few years but not out of the gate.

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      • m1ke_nyc
        10
        • Oct 2009
        • 3243

        #48
        Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

        Originally posted by coolcras7
        Both 2k and EA gave up on making a MLB games because they just could not match the level that the Show was producing.
        2K had exclusive rights for 3rd parties therefore EA couldn't make a game anymore. However 1st parties could which is why the show existed.
        It’s easier to do the right thing, than to explain why you didn’t.

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        • coolcras7
          MVP
          • Sep 2009
          • 2337

          #49
          Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

          Originally posted by Money99
          That's not the reason.
          After EA purchased the NFL rights, 2K overpaid for the MLB license to compensate and remain in the sports console race.

          I was invited to the Fight Night Community event years ago and spoke directly to an EA spokesman about the MLB situation.
          He told me that EA refused to pay what MLB was asking for an exclusive license.
          He said it would have been impossible to make a profit.
          Take-Two overpaid simply because they felt they had to after losing the bidding war for NFL rights.

          This is why is suspect that EA refuses to resurrect their MVP series; out of spite.
          (And most likely because MLB overvalues their licensing fees).

          SCEA wishes they had the sales MVP enjoyed (on the PS2 alone, let alone the extra sales they received on the Xbox).

          The Show is one of the best sports games produced today. But make no mistake, an updated MVP game would outsell The Show on the PS4.
          And they'd probably double those sales on the XB1.

          Regarding 2K, 2K13 had a lot of flaws, but it did a lot of things very well too.
          The problem with that series was it didn't look as pretty and the animations were wonky.
          I firmly believe that if 2K looked and moved as well as The Show, sales are a lot better and the series may still exist today.
          The gameplay under the hood was solid.
          Originally posted by ratedmoney
          2K had exclusive rights for 3rd parties therefore EA couldn't make a game anymore. However 1st parties could which is why the show existed.
          I appreciate the info i was not aware that 2k bought the license, i stand corrected.
          PSN=Coolcas7

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          • MLBNFLNBALGS
            Banned
            • Aug 2017
            • 81

            #50
            Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

            Originally posted by sarlndr
            An updated MVP would be in the same position Live is in right now on PS4. It would be going up against an established and polished franchise giant.

            It might outsell The Show in a few years but not out of the gate.

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            What makes you think it couldn't though especially if it's on the XBOX ONE too.. I swear you say the dumbest &@!! sometimes dog! Seriously! Go look up The Show 17 16 and 15 sells... Rapidly dwindling down do to all that copy and pasting! MVP would blow pass The Show so fast, Cleveland State might actually get recognized as an program!
            Last edited by MLBNFLNBALGS; 11-27-2017, 01:03 PM.

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            • sarlndr
              MVP
              • Apr 2009
              • 1083

              #51
              Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

              Originally posted by MLBNFLNBALGS
              What makes you think it couldn't though especially if it's on the XBOX ONE too.. I swear you say the dumbest &@!! sometimes dog! Seriously! Go look up The Show 17 16 and 15 sells... Rapidly dwindling down do to all that copy and pasting! MVP would blow pass The Show so fast, Cleveland State might actually get recognized as an program!
              I said that it would not outsell The Show out of the gate on PS4. It wouldn't.

              Re-read my post. At no time did I mention the Xbox. You're letting nostalgia get the best of you, dog.

              You have the gall to say that I say the dumbest ish? As much nonsensical & incoherent crap as you spew in this thread. You've got zero room to talk about anybody or anyone, on this entire forum.


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              • MLBNFLNBALGS
                Banned
                • Aug 2017
                • 81

                #52
                Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

                Originally posted by sarlndr
                I said that it would not outsell The Show out of the gate on PS4. It wouldn't.

                Re-read my post. At no time did I mention the Xbox. You're letting nostalgia get the best of you, dog.

                You have the gall to say that I say the dumbest ish? As much nonsensical & incoherent crap as you spew in this thread. You've got zero room to talk about anybody or anyone, on this entire forum.


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                How can you fix your lips and let something like that roll off your tongue is all I'm saying... So narrow minded and short winded of you as always! Let's just say we were talking nostalgia? The baseballs fans of this generation of video gaming is on a different level... Yes, out the gate and closing it I'd say with confidence that MVP would almost double the 1 million sells ( barely ) the show gets.. All my post rattle the butt kissers in here so of course you'd writers block my post seeing that your're one! FYI
                Last edited by MLBNFLNBALGS; 11-27-2017, 05:33 PM.

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                • sarlndr
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1083

                  #53
                  Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

                  Almost 2 Million in sales out of the gate?
                  [emoji17]

                  Back on topic.

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                  • WaddupCouzin
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 2366

                    #54
                    Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

                    I think the point missed in this thread, 2K sold more than 790K. It was noted after the launch, they sold more games at launch than any sports game sold this year, Thats in the millions, not 790K.
                    "I've Altered The Deal..."

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                    • MLBNFLNBALGS
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2017
                      • 81

                      #55
                      Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

                      Originally posted by WaddupCouzin
                      I think the point missed in this thread, 2K sold more than 790K. It was noted after the launch, they sold more games at launch than any sports game sold this year, Thats in the millions, not 790K.
                      If anybody cared seeing that this is an NBA LIVE thread we might have said " Yeah, I just looked at VG CHARTS or NPD and did the math " but wouldn't want to give those guys too much credit here on this stage...

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                      • thesniper321
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 274

                        #56
                        Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

                        Originally posted by sarlndr
                        Besides not counting digital sales. What makes it unreliable?

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                        They say no launch in europ LOL, last time I checked I lived in europ

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                        • sarlndr
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1083

                          #57
                          Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

                          Originally posted by thesniper321
                          They say no launch in europ LOL, last time I checked I lived in europ
                          It's says "rest of the world" for Live 18. There are weekly sales charts that include Europe and it's individual countries.

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                          • Lisac
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 1818

                            #58
                            Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

                            Its 2017 and you cant even have editable rosters, create a player, editable lineups and player ratings?
                            Love Live this yr as a $15 game but if they cant even add these things for next yr they just better fold the series!

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                            • thesniper321
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 274

                              #59
                              Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

                              Originally posted by sarlndr
                              It's says "rest of the world" for Live 18. There are weekly sales charts that include Europe and it's individual countries.

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                              not when this thread was made

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                              • rhouserjr0614
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                                • Jan 2017
                                • 495

                                #60
                                Re: NBA live sales are laughable if this is true

                                Originally posted by MLBNFLNBALGS
                                What makes you think it couldn't though especially if it's on the XBOX ONE too.. I swear you say the dumbest &@!! sometimes dog! Seriously! Go look up The Show 17 16 and 15 sells... Rapidly dwindling down do to all that copy and pasting! MVP would blow pass The Show so fast, Cleveland State might actually get recognized as an program!


                                I don’t know why PS won’t just sell the show on the Xbox? They would make more profit from it.


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