"Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

[ianlast]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Agreed DC.

BTW...whats your take on the dunking situation. Do you agree that there are too few dunks in the game? Do you believe that raising the dunk rating by 20 would be a good place to start? I'm not sure why the dunk rating is so low across the board. I don't recall seeing anyone in the 80's.

Personally, I don't really mind this. Last year there were too many joe-blow PGs who were flying like Spud Webb. I've got my dunk slider at 0, and I still see a good number of standing dunks in the post as well as on the fast-break.

[countryboy]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

That's great to hear. I wonder how many they were attempting each game...

Wall attempted 11 per game. Scheyer was 10 and Singlar was 9, or vice versa.

Like I said, its going to be a give and take solution.

[Skyboxer]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Personally, I don't really mind this. Last year there were too many joe-blow PGs who were flying like Spud Webb. I've got my dunk slider at 0, and I still see a good number of standing dunks in the post as well as on the fast-break.

Agree. I don't want an NBA game with college teams.

[duke776]

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Nice to see guys, glad you all found a way to get the CPU to take more 3's. I'll probably just edit the teams as I play them in my dynasty, since I'm already about 10 or 11 games in. This will really help me, because the lack of 3's was starting to get a little annoying.

[ianlast]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Well, this is a pretty effective solution...maybe even a little too effective. I played a game vs. Duke, and Thomas, Plumlee, Zoubek and Kelly combined for about 18 FG attempts (Kelly had almost half of them, but he grabbed like 6 ORs). Meanwhile, Smith, Scheyer, Singler and Dawkins had at least 50 FG attempts, with about 30 of them from 3-pt. range. I think their final 3-pt. % was 44%. I was Coastal Carolina, and shot about 50% from 3-pt. Both those numbers are a bit on the high side, so I might drop the 3-point slider from 40 to 30.

Overall though, nice find countryboy! If only there was a solution to the CPU shooting every time in the low post; if this was fixed, I would be in heaven.

[countryboy]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Nice to see guys, glad you all found a way to get the CPU to take more 3's. I'll probably just edit the teams as I play them in my dynasty, since I'm already about 10 or 11 games in. This will really help me, because the lack of 3's was starting to get a little annoying.

this is what I'm going to do. I'll edit them before I play them, and then return them to normal after I play them. Reason being, the dynasty stats become a little out of whack(too many attempts) if the ratings are adjusted as I have been doing.

This way, the cpu attacks me from behind the arc, but I don't have to worry about season stats being off, nor do I need to spend countless hours editing teams when the chances of me playing a majority of them would be slim.

I'll make my edits, play my game and then reset them.

[Skyboxer]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I caved and bought it.... Playing some now.
Doubt I go making edits etc... though as I dont really want to have to do that all the time. I'll just play for what it is and see if they patch it.

[Pielet]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I caved and bought it.... Playing some now.
Doubt I go making edits etc... though as I dont really want to have to do that all the time. I'll just play for what it is and see if they patch it.

Sounds like it's not a patchable solution, but simply a dynamic update. Why wouldn't EA's other games have tuner settings like NHL that affect gameplay? No need for a full patch, just use the new tuned settings. You can also switch them back and forth depending on what you like.

[J.R. Locke]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I just did some testing and the like....

My conclusion is that the offenses (playbooks) dictate where the shots are going to come from.

I saw a lot of three pointers when I played a 2-3 zone and the CPU offense ran a zone offense.

The best way to have the CPU pass out of the post is to double hard with the player you are controlling (I try to use the weakside player).

I adjusted USER and CPU post strength, lowered CPU short range FG% and increased 3pt % sliders.

I will definitely edit the other team like you guys have done. I will increase 3pt a bit, range (for real good shooters) and decrease inside scoring.

Thanks for testing countryboy. And the rest for sharing. I am comfortable enough to start my one and only dynasty knowing what we know.

[travis72]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Sounds like it's not a patchable solution, but simply a dynamic update. Why wouldn't EA's other games have tuner settings like NHL that affect gameplay? No need for a full patch, just use the new tuned settings. You can also switch them back and forth depending on what you like.

I think 2k8 had a slider that you could increase for more perimeter shooting. I don't know why they don't put more sliders in the gameplay for fine tuning as well as making them make more of a impact without having to max them out to see a change. To me that would make life easier for the developers if we could do the fine tuning because everyone plays at different levels and styles.

[J.R. Locke]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I think 2k8 had a slider that you could increase for more perimeter shooting. I don't know why they don't put more sliders in the gameplay for fine tuning as well as making them make more of a impact without having to max them out to see a change. To me that would make life easier for the developers if we could do the fine tuning because everyone plays at different levels and styles.

EA has a history of being against customization. Their sliders in their football games are laughably horrible (been the same since introduced). EA catches heat for being a corporate monolith on these grounds.

For instance we cannot edit height/weight in dynasty mode.

[BV28]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

played 20 minute halves. The cpu shot 28 times in the only full game I played. And they hit 11 of them I believe. But again, that was at 90 for both teams.

11/20 on 3 PT FG's? Wow. Try lowering the CPU 3 point shooter slider that will make them miss more, getting like 5-8 3 pointers out of 20 attempts is more realistic.

Appreciate your work on this game!

[deadlyCane]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Alright, I finished ACC and ran a couple games with my Miami Hurricanes. All games are on 18-min halves, All Conference with cpu Long Range Shooting slider at 50. Remember, I didn't edit every player, just the ones I thought should have their 3pt rating increased. For instance, I increased Boston College's Joe Trapani's 3pt rating from 61 to 81, I moved Reggie Jackson's to 74, Biko Paris to 76, Rakim Sanders to 75, Tyler Roche to 82, Dallas Elmore to 69, and Nick Mosakowski to 71.

GAME 1: Miami 88 at Boston College 73.
BC went 24/61 on overall field goal attempts and 6/17 on 3PT field goals. I played a lot of 2-3 zones this game because BC doesn't have great offensive players. As you can see they went 35% from downtown. Just as importantly, 28% of their total field goal attempts were from beyond the arc. Last year 20% to about 35% of all shots attempted by most teams were attempted from beyond the arc. Further, the majority of them fell in the 25% to 28% range with anomalies as high as 38%.

GAME 2: Miami 76 at Clemson 97
Clemson is a uptempo team and I play uptempo as well, so there were a lot of shots in this one. I came out in my typical 2-3 zone. Oh boy, did Clemson ever let me pay for this. They immediately started jacking up threes all over the place. This forced me out of the that zone. I tried the 3-2 a couple times but I hate it for rebounds. I ended up playing about 60% to 70% man with everyone covered tight. Clemson's overal Field Goals were 38/84, and 8/21 from three. 25% of their attempts were from three.

I'm pretty satisfied with those results. They seem realistic in every way and consistent with what I experienced after editing Duke and Syracuse. More importantly, the game opened up and I had to keep switching defenses or the cpu would make me pay someway somehow. At least that was the case with Clemson. BC is just too weak. I'm going to move on to the Big Ten.

[eamuscatuli15]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

back from the holidays and just checking in on all the posts for this game. wondering if someone can give me a simple explanation on how to make the cpu 3 pt shooting more realistic during dynasty mode????? just trying to get the most realistic experience possible out of this game....i'm planning on downloading latest OSappearance roster, i'm taking any suggestions possible of dynamic update use for legit schedules without ruining rosters i wanna use. please post me some feedback asap as i'm due to get off work in about two hours and wanna get goin on this game ASAP! i would apprecicate as much feedback as possible!!!

[KleShreen]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Yea I read through this whole thing and still can't figure out what exactly is being done...are people just editing all their opposing teams to have their 3-point shooters all rated 90 and then putting them back after the game? Is the long-range shooting slider being edited? What's going on?