"Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

[Jason2112]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I'm very frustrated with the CPU jacking a shot up everytime they get it in the post. This game has sooo many improvements over last year, but why could they not just leave the A.I.'s play-running alone. Last year's game was great about having the CPU work the ball around realistically for a good shot, and now they either drive in and throw up a shot or toss it down to the post and immediately shoot. Also, does everyone here play on All-Conference or Varsity level? I've been on AC, but it seems like the CPU is too tough on that level.

[travis72]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I'm very frustrated with the CPU jacking a shot up everytime they get it in the post. This game has sooo many improvements over last year, but why could they not just leave the A.I.'s play-running alone. Last year's game was great about having the CPU work the ball around realistically for a good shot, and now they either drive in and throw up a shot or toss it down to the post and immediately shoot. Also, does everyone here play on All-Conference or Varsity level? I've been on AC, but it seems like the CPU is too tough on that level.

I play AC with tweaked sliders. IND St. dynasty 1st year 18-13 currently 4-0 in my 2 year aand I am considering going up to AA and tweaking the sliders to my liking. I have played every game but 1.

[Skyboxer]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I tested ian's theory, and it works great. I never really had a problem with the post play before, but now I realize how bad it was. Post play is much, much better when you make the CPU's players all 10 inside shooting. Great part is you can edit other teams in dynasty mode, so you can just edit the team you're about to play instead of every team. In 2 games doing it, I saw maybe 2 times altogether where he just received the ball and shot it. They post up, sometimes do an up and under, and even pass it out. Had a great chain of events where they were working on my 2-3 zone, went to the high post, then low post, then kicked it out for 3. Awesome.

Only 2 downsides is sometimes they miss easy shots (I ended up just increasing the CPU slider for inside scoring) and their overall rating goes down about 3-4 points. I think I may just increase their inside scoring back up to normal after I play the team, to save the simulated games the CPU plays from getting out of whack.

I tried it and in 3 games there was no difference in post play at all.

[Skyboxer]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

has anyone been able to test out ianlast's theory to see if they are getting similar results?

No change at all in my 3 games I tried....

[J.R. Locke]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

The best results I have seen in the CPU kicking out of the post is a hard double team by the USER controlling a weakside defender.

Also teams shoot threes a lot against a zone...

Simple basketball but clearly this is a problem with the post dominance. The CPU just seems scripted this year.

[Skyboxer]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

The best results I have seen in the CPU kicking out of the post is a hard double team by the USER controlling a weakside defender.

Also teams shoot threes a lot against a zone...

Simple basketball but clearly this is a problem with the post dominance. The CPU just seems scripted this year.

Yeah a quick double team helps but just marginally. Freaking shame that a minor patch would make the game so much better. If they in fact don't patch it I don't care if they make NCAA 11 or not as I won't be buying it.

[mindblowin]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I haven't seen the post play issue too much on the 360 playing AC. I played Louisville last night and they dumped it down to Samuels and he kicked it back out to the guard without me double teaming. I'm a 2K junkie, but bottom lne this game is fun!!

[racerx]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Played Rider last night in my UK Dynasty and they attempted 19 3pt FG using Authentic's slider set, including the game winning 3 as I lost 86-84 at home.

[Jason2112]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I may be crazy, but since I've deleted it from my hard drive, it seems like the CPU doesn't feed it to the post and jack up a shot nearly as much. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but the CPU is attempting a realistic amount of threes against me, usually around 8 to 10, but I play 10 minute halves so I'm happy with this. Also, I've really noticed how most post players take a shot in real life when they get the ball down low. Turn on a CBB game on TV and really watch when they feed it down low. Now I'm noticing that post players just really think they have to shoot it when they get it down low. Kick-outs arent' as numerous as you might think.

[jake44np]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Played Rider last night in my UK Dynasty and they attempted 19 3pt FG using Authentic's slider set, including the game winning 3 as I lost 86-84 at home.

I am not seeing this at all, have you edited the players attributes at all?
I played 3 games today in my UC dynasty and the cpu shot 10, 7, and 6 3's against me.
On average a team shoots about 20-25 3's a game,

[deadlyCane]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

racerx, that was just have been an aberration, unless of course, you edited rider's 3-point ratings as Jake pointed out. The average for 3-point attempts for teams is around 17 per game.

[racerx]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I am not seeing this at all, have you edited the players attributes at all?
I played 3 games today in my UC dynasty and the cpu shot 10, 7, and 6 3's against me.
On average a team shoots about 20-25 3's a game,

Jake and Deadly,
I did not touch Rider's ratings at all, believe it or not but they came out firing 3's. I think there first 4 shots of the game where from 3pt land.

Then back to reality I played Cleveland St last night and they only attempted 5 3pt basket's and I play with 20 min halves.

[deadlyCane]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

Jake and Deadly,
I did not touch Rider's ratings at all, believe it or not but they came out firing 3's. I think there first 4 shots of the game where from 3pt land.

Then back to reality I played Cleveland St last night and they only attempted 5 3pt basket's and I play with 20 min halves.

Yup, my point exactly. The Rider situation was an aberration. The 5 3pt attempts you saw against Cleveland St. is more normal from a mid major in this game. If you play against a BCS school you might get 10 if you're lucky. That's still not college ball. I'm not even sure if it is even NBA.

Regarding Cleveland State, if memory serves correctly, the last time I checked EA didn't have a single player on that roster rated above 60 in 3pters. Pardon me if my facts are incorrect here but I do remember thinking to myself that they were underrated from three. I saw them play in person last year in the NCAA tourney when they bounced Wake Forrest. Their point guard, Norris Cole, may not be Andy Rautins or Seth Curry but trust me, he can shoot the three. EA has him way under-rated in 3pters to where you're hard pressed to see him take a three in the video game when he actually took 131 last year and already attempted 32 this year. Unacceptable EA.

The lack of threes in this game make defensive strategy non-existent in this game. You just have to pack every in the paint pretty much all the time and not extend your defense unless you're playing a team like Duke.

To all the people who keep saying they are seeing enough threes, I did some research and posted them. Log a few games of three point attempts then compare them with what you see in post 1,227 of this following thread: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-here-123.html

[steve21a]

Re: "Testing for 3pt, passing out of post, and dunks"

I may be crazy, but since I've deleted it from my hard drive, it seems like the CPU doesn't feed it to the post and jack up a shot nearly as much. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but the CPU is attempting a realistic amount of threes against me, usually around 8 to 10, but I play 10 minute halves so I'm happy with this. Also, I've really noticed how most post players take a shot in real life when they get the ball down low. Turn on a CBB game on TV and really watch when they feed it down low. Now I'm noticing that post players just really think they have to shoot it when they get it down low. Kick-outs arent' as numerous as you might think.

Thank you! I have been reading the posts on this forum since the game came out and I have been waiting for someone to realize how often the post player in a real CBB game takes the shot when they receive the ball. I feel that EA did a great job of attempting to mimic how a real CBB game plays. Most people on this forum are saying that the post play is unrealistic. I say it is realistic. I have been watching CBB for over 20 years now, so I am going off of experience.