How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

[BigTigLSU]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

Lets not forget something buddy.

03-04. Wade & Co. were in the Leastern Conference. I can see why he went far as he did that year and Im pretty sure you can too.

04-05. Bryant & Co. were in the Western Conference playin the likes of the Spurs, Kings, Seattle, PHX, Dallas, the surging Nuggets 4 times a year. Plus with a coach that looks like he has DownSyndrome.

Western Conference
Team W L GB
1. yMinnesota Timberwolves 58 24 -
3. yLos Angeles Lakers .... 56 26 2.0
2. xSan Antonio Spurs ..... 57 25 1.0
4. xSacramento Kings ...... 55 27 3.0
5. xDallas Mavericks ...... 52 30 6.0
6. xMemphis Grizzlies ..... 50 32 8.0
7. xHouston Rockets ....... 45 37 13.0
8. xDenver Nuggets ........ 43 39 15.0
9. Utah Jazz .............. 42 40 16.0
10. Portland Trailblazers .. 41 41 17.0
11. Golden State Warriors .. 37 45 21.0
11. Seattle Sonics ......... 37 45 21.0
13. Phoenix Suns ........... 29 53 29.0
14. Los Angeles Clippers ... 28 54 30.0


Eastern Conference
Team W L GB
1. yIndiana Pacers ........ 61 21 -
3. yNew Jersey Nets ....... 47 35 14.0
2. xDetroit Pistons ....... 54 28 7.0
4. xMiami Heat ............ 42 40 19.0
5. xNew Orleans Hornets ... 41 41 20.0
5. xMilwaukee Bucks ....... 41 41 20.0
7. xNew York Knicks ....... 39 43 22.0
8. xBoston Celtics ........ 36 46 25.0
9. Cleveland Cavaliers .... 35 47 26.0
10. Philadelphia 76ers ..... 33 49 28.0
10. Toronto Raptors ........ 33 49 28.0
12. Atlanta Hawks .......... 28 54 33.0
13. Washington Wizards ..... 25 57 36.0
14. Chicago Bulls .......... 23 59 38.0
15. Orlando Magic .......... 21 61 40.0

^^Leastern Conference. Compare for yourself.

Thats a flawed view being that the 2 of the top 3 teams in West this year was below .500 last year and didn't make the playoffs and let us not forget that career stat wise the starting 5 and top 2 bench players for the lakers are better when compared to seattle. SO its no excuse

[dingdingdong]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

Thats a flawed view being that the 2 of the top 3 teams in West this year was below .500 last year and didn't make the playoffs and let us not forget that career stat wise the starting 5 and top 2 bench players for the lakers are better when compared to seattle. SO its no excuse

What are you talking about?
Lakers reconstructed their team. Im pretty sure it may take a while to build a strong chemistry like Seattle when Seattle basically had the same people around them over a couple of years. So what Seattle was below .500? They may have decided to finally redeem themselves and step up. Whereas the Lakers are still trying to find the right chemistry and coach. Seattle and the Lakers are in two different boats.

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Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

Its flawed when you take into account that the Lakers had a losing record against the Eastern Conference.

[Dynasty4Kobe]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

It's funny, threads like these are actually a tribute to Shaq. How many players in the NBA have never been to the NBA Finals? Yeah, that many. And here we are dissing Shaq because he didn't make it to the place that other NBA players have dreamed of making throughout their careers.

[dingdingdong]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

Its flawed when you take into account that the Lakers had a losing record against the Eastern Conference.

I think rebuilding a team from scratch had something to do with it. Your expecting too much out of these Lakers. Yea Kobe wanted to be the leader, he got it. He failed. It shows no one can do it single-handedly.

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Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

Miami was rebuilt, so was HOU, and PHX, and DAL, and so on.

No way they should've went on a 2-19 losing streak.


You see this was just a way of catching you trying to de-value the eastern conference when miami with the same type of team the Lakers have exceeded expectations with a rookie running the show.

[BigTigLSU]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

This is my last post on the Lakers vs Shaq thing....

The Lakers have more important things to worry about than the outcome of the Heat's playoffs run.

1. If the Heat do reup and Shaq balls and the Heat are title contenders every year that will make the decision look worse and the Lakers end up merely the Orlando Magic of the West. What will happen then

2. If the magical free agent or draft pick never shows up (the whole reason for letting Shaq go to free up the space by not giving him the big money) no matter what Shaq does it would have destroyed a dynasty for nothing.

3. Lastly if nothing comes of this other than a increase in #8's scoring than the front office will have totally failed its fans.

[Programmed2Kill]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

I think rebuilding a team from scratch had something to do with it. Your expecting too much out of these Lakers. Yea Kobe wanted to be the leader, he got it. He failed. It shows no one can do it single-handedly.

That's bull and you know it. People had the Lakers making the playoffs, at least. A 6th seed. They didn't even get close to being a 6th seed.

And last time I checked, have Kobe, Lamar Odom, Caron Butler and Brian Grant doesn't sound like scratch to me.

And that is not being single-handed. Wade made out fine with those three players.

[dingdingdong]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

Miami was rebuilt, so was HOU, and PHX, and DAL, and so on.

No way they should've went on a 2-19 losing streak.


You see this was just a way of catching you trying to de-value the eastern conference when miami with the same type of team the Lakers have exceeded expectations with a rookie running the show.

Shaq + Wade + Miami's role player > Kobe + Lamar Scrotum + role players

Tmac + Yao + bench > Kobe + Odom + bench

Im not gonna even mention about Phx. They have a variety of people who can score not to mention having the MVP on their team helping them.

Dallas has a combination of Flopwitzki, JET, Stack, Marq, and a pretty solid bench.

You know damn well these well-rebuilt teams are much deeper then the rebuilt team of the Lakers. They have offensive weapson to go to. So give the damn Lakers a break and stop expecting so much after a horrible offseason-rebuilding they had.
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That's bull and you know it. People had the Lakers making the playoffs, at least. A 6th seed. They didn't even get close to being a 6th seed.

And last time I checked, have Kobe, Lamar Odom, Caron Butler and Brian Grant doesn't sound like scratch to me.

And that is not being single-handed. Wade made out fine with those three players.

Yea, in the Leastern Conference.

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Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

Yea, in the Leastern Conference.

That the Lakers had a losing record to

[dingdingdong]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

That the Lakers had a losing record to

...back in 03-04? I dont think so.

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Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

in 03-04 they lost to the east in a convincing fashion. you're digging a deeper hole by the minute by the way

[dingdingdong]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

in 03-04 they lost to the east in a convincing fashion. you're digging a deeper hole by the minute by the way

If you talking about losing to the Pistons in the final, true.
If you talking about having a losing record to the east in 03-04...I dont know about that...being a team that went 56-26 and having a losing record to the East?...

Show me some proof.

[aholbert32]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

This is my last post on the Lakers vs Shaq thing....

The Lakers have more important things to worry about than the outcome of the Heat's playoffs run.

1. If the Heat do reup and Shaq balls and the Heat are title contenders every year that will make the decision look worse and the Lakers end up merely the Orlando Magic of the West. What will happen then

2. If the magical free agent or draft pick never shows up (the whole reason for letting Shaq go to free up the space by not giving him the big money) no matter what Shaq does it would have destroyed a dynasty for nothing.

3. Lastly if nothing comes of this other than a increase in #8's scoring than the front office will have totally failed its fans.

No the reason for letting go of Shaq was to make sure that Kobe resigns and to not reward Shaq, who had been out of shape for the previous 3 seasons, by making him the highest paid player in the league. It had nothing to do with cap room. Dr. Buss made it clear that he was willing to sign Shaq to a new contract, he just didnt wantt o break the bank doing it.

[aholbert32]

Re: How do you feel about Shaq not making it to the finals?

That's bull and you know it. People had the Lakers making the playoffs, at least. A 6th seed. They didn't even get close to being a 6th seed.

And last time I checked, have Kobe, Lamar Odom, Caron Butler and Brian Grant doesn't sound like scratch to me.

And that is not being single-handed. Wade made out fine with those three players.

I have to disagree. At the beginning of the season many outlets had them as a 7th or 8th seed or out of the playoffs. Experts thought SA, Den, Minn, Pho, Dallas, Utah and Sac were all better teams.

As for Kobe's supporting cast, I wont even talk about Grant who was injured most of the year and has been a contributor for 2. Also, the only reason Wade made out "fine" with those two was because he was in the East. That damn team was only 2 games over 500 and was a fifth seed in the East. That not exactly a great team.