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I think he should be top 50 as well...........just not over PipOriginally posted by bigeastbumrushComment
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If they took a survey of the Top 50 players, I guarantee you at least 90% of them would choose Wilkins over Pippen. Guarantee.Originally posted by OG_McNabbComment
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I'll take that bet anytime.Originally posted by bigeastbumrush-Rocky Balboa"Maybe I can't win. But to beat me, he's going to have to kill me. And to kill me, he's gonna have to have the heart to stand in front of me. And to do that, he's got to be willing to die himself. I don't know if he's ready to do that."Comment
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Listed alphabetically:Originally posted by Rocky
1. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
2. Nate Archibald
3. Paul Arizin
4. Charles Barkley
5. Rick Barry
6. Elgin Baylor
7. Dave Bing
8. Larry Bird
9. Wilt Chamberlain
10. Bob Cousy
11. Dave Cowens
12. Billy Cunningham
13. Dave DeBusschere
14. Clyde Drexler
15. Julius Erving
16. Patrick Ewing
17. Walt Frazier
18. George Gervin
19. Hal Greer
20. John Havlicek
21. Elvin Hayes
22. Magic Johnson
23. Sam Jones
24. Michael Jordan
25. Jerry Lucas
26. Karl Malone
27. Moses Malone
28. Pete Maravich
29. Kevin McHale
30. George Mikan
31. Earl Monroe
32. Hakeem Olajuwon
33. Shaquille O'Neal
34. Robert Parish
35. Bob Pettit
36. Scottie Pippen
37. Willis Reed
38. Oscar Robertson
39. David Robinson
40. Bill Russell
41. Dolph Schayes
42. Bill Sharman
43. John Stockton
44. Isiah Thomas
45. Nate Thurmond
46. Wes Unseld
47. Bill Walton
48. Jerry West
49. Lenny Wilkens
50. James Worthy
The majority of these players are Legends. No way is Scottie Pippen even on their radar. His name just sticks out like a sore thumb to me.Comment
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C'mon Rush, Pip was flat-out, no questions asked, accepted as the best SF in the league for a 6 or 7 years span...In what many consider the best era of basketball.Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
Not to mention that if you did poll those old dudes, I gurantee they'd penalize Nique as the poster-child for what has deteriorated the league...flashy scorers who don't do anything else particularly well, and/or haven't carried their team to that elite level consistently. Nique also had very suspect D, the old guys would bake him for that. Nique was a beast...maybe you bump a Dave Bing or sumpthin' but he is borderline. He had that great series against the original Birdman, but besides that he was just a rawdog scorer, IMO. Pip was the truth.Last edited by HMcCoy; 12-15-2005, 03:03 AM.Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaireComment
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And I totally don't see it that way.
They know what Nique did. The Hawks were a perennial playoff team for awhile with a roster of nothing besides him. He still is the face of that sorry franchise. He played a sidekick to no one.
No way is Nique the reason for the deteriorated league of today. These knucklehead players aren't going to come close to touching the 25,000+ points that he put up. They don't have the desire nor consistency.
I don't buy into that Scottie Pippen was the best SF in the league for any stretch of his career. If he was so great, he would have been able to do it in any other situation which I don't think he as capable of.
This is the same guy who sulked on the bench because the last play of a game wasn't drawn up for him.
Those old dudes wouldn't criticize Nique because they played against him. They know what he brought to the table. He went to battle against most of those guys so he fell into the same category as them during the "changing of the guards" to the players of today.
Dominique is a flat out legend. He's cut from a different cloth than Pippen. I'm not sure why people can't see that.Comment
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Worst moment of his career. Perhaps this is why Pip can appreciate Kobe...both were second fiddles for a long, long time, and both were hungry to show that they could be "the man". He prolly took that as quite a slap in the face as the new team lead. Terrible decision by Scottie.Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
No argument there, he was an all-time great. The perception that he was one-dimensional, fair or not, will always follow him though.Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
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if worthy is a legend then pippen has to be one alsoComment
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A legend who was NBA first team ONCE.....once. He was a legend because of his dunking. Those 50 players appreciate an all around game, and it was well known even in the 80's that 'Nique didn't have one.Originally posted by bigeastbumrushPSN: JISTIC_OS
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You don't have nearly 27,000 career points and career averages of 25/7/2.5 if you're just a legendary dunker. And this was in basketball's best era......"You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier
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Real ishtOriginally posted by KashanovaComment
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^^^Basically.Originally posted by ehh
Jistic, you failed to mention him being NBA All Second Team (chopped liver, huh) in the same era as Bird, Drexler, King, etc.Comment
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I'm not trying to discredit 'Nique as much as I'm trying to show how good Scottie really was.Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
NBA first team 3 times, all defensive team 8 years straight.
Also,
Scottie is 40th all time in scoring, 4th all time steals, 23rd in assists.
He's got the stats, he's got the awards, and he's got the hardware. I just don't see where he doesn't fit the profile.
'Nique was a nice player, I acknowledge that. Believe me I was watching the NBA since the late '70's. I just think Pippen was a better overall player and deserves his due. Just my opinion.PSN: JISTIC_OS
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IndeedOriginally posted by JisticComment
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