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  • luv_mist
    Older
    • May 2004
    • 9596

    #1276
    Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

    Originally posted by bball_1523
    amare is still on the suns, shaq has been out of LA for almost 2 years, and he is decaying away as a player anyway. Shaq isn't even close to as good as he was 3-4 years ago. And Amare was freakishly getting better and better. Who knows if Amare would've handled shaq if shaq was in LA today.
    Shaq would be big as hell and Amare would have a hard time defending whoever was the PF. I'm sure they would have had somebody else doing the C job of sticking Shaq and getting beat up.

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    • Leon
      An Old Trafford
      • Mar 2003
      • 4981

      #1277
      Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

      Is Bonzi having a monster game or what? Also, 2-2 babee! It ain't over but we're close. If the Kings play like this the rest of the series, there's no doubt we can beat the Spurs.
      "It's not how big you are; it's how big you play" - David Thompson

      @nicroni

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      • bball_1523
        MVP
        • Aug 2003
        • 5344

        #1278
        Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

        Originally posted by poopoop
        who knows? better yet who cares.
        yeah, but everyone should realize the suns don't have nearly half of their power. Like I said earlier in this thread, I am surprised the suns had this good of a record, but the lakers have surprised me against the suns as well.

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        • Tha_Kid
          All Star
          • Oct 2002
          • 6550

          #1279
          Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

          you can't fall back on the "suns arent at full strength" crap, there are more than enough shots of Amare and KT on the bench to remind everyone. Fact is they still got the two seed and were expected to run out the lakers.

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          • bball_1523
            MVP
            • Aug 2003
            • 5344

            #1280
            Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

            Originally posted by Tha_Kid
            you can't fall back on the "suns arent at full strength" crap, there are more than enough shots of Amare and KT on the bench to remind everyone. Fact is they still got the two seed and were expected to run out the lakers.
            yes, but they still don't have a big portion of their power. It would be understandable if kurt thomas was injured, but Amare was in and lakers were still beating them, but Amare is a large portion of their power.

            I don't think suns should be #2 seed, but that is why nash is regular season mvp.

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            • fobbybobby23
              Pro
              • Sep 2004
              • 825

              #1281
              Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

              Originally posted by bball_1523
              yes, but they still don't have a big portion of their power. It would be understandable if kurt thomas was injured, but Amare was in and lakers were still beating them, but Amare is a large portion of their power.

              I don't think suns should be #2 seed, but that is why nash is regular season mvp.
              dude, did they have that power when they GOT the 2 seed?

              NO. they did NOT.

              so amare being out, and kthomas to a lesser extent, is a MOOT point

              they had the 2nd seed without amare, and for the most part, without kurt thomas

              so they are basically the same team that got the 2nd seed personel wise.

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              • bball_1523
                MVP
                • Aug 2003
                • 5344

                #1282
                Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

                Originally posted by fobbybobby23
                dude, did they have that power when they GOT the 2 seed?

                NO. they did NOT.

                so amare being out, and kthomas to a lesser extent, is a MOOT point

                they had the 2nd seed without amare, and for the most part, without kurt thomas

                so they are basically the same team that got the 2nd seed personel wise.
                for this year yes. They might've been 2nd seed regardless if Amare was playing this year or not.

                I too am surprised that the suns aren't living up their expectations against the lakers.

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                • EWRMETS
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 7491

                  #1283
                  Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

                  Originally posted by bball_1523
                  amare is still on the suns, shaq has been out of LA for almost 2 years, and he is decaying away as a player anyway. Shaq isn't even close to as good as he was 3-4 years ago. And Amare was freakishly getting better and better. Who knows if Amare would've handled shaq if shaq was in LA today.
                  Man you keep brining up Amare and it really is moronic. Injuries affect sports every year and it's useless to say what if. Just for your annoying argument's sake and not even considering the fact that the Suns might have a different seed if Amare or Kurt Thomas were healthy, the chances of Boris Diaw or Tim Thomas playing this well would be unlikely.

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                  • bball_1523
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 5344

                    #1284
                    Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

                    Originally posted by EWRMETS
                    Man you keep brining up Amare and it really is moronic. Injuries affect sports every year and it's useless to say what if. Just for your annoying argument's sake and not even considering the fact that the Suns might have a different seed if Amare or Kurt Thomas were healthy, the chances of Boris Diaw or Tim Thomas playing this well would be unlikely.
                    you're probably right, but I think Amare (if never injured, or healed from injury), would do more damage then diaw and thomas because he is a powerhouse inside. He was nearly unstoppable against the spurs last season, but the spurs were a complete team and somehow managed to win.

                    I am still surprised that the suns got #2 seed w/o Amare. But to lose to the lakers is an embarrassment for them.

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                    • fobbybobby23
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 825

                      #1285
                      Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

                      Originally posted by bball_1523
                      for this year yes. They might've been 2nd seed regardless if Amare was playing this year or not.

                      I too am surprised that the suns aren't living up their expectations against the lakers.
                      what do you mean for this year yes

                      they DID get the 2nd seed without amare playing, he played a grand total of 3 games, so basically they went the whole season without amare and got the 2nd seed

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                      • fowess
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 208

                        #1286
                        Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

                        I don't know if this has been said, but the Lakers must be thanking David Stern for not changing the playoff format because we all know Dallas would be demolishing them at the moment and the Suns would probably be demolishing the Grizz.

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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #1287
                          Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

                          Originally posted by fowess
                          I don't know if this has been said, but the Lakers must be thanking David Stern for not changing the playoff format because we all know Dallas would be demolishing them at the moment and the Suns would probably be demolishing the Grizz.
                          just like that time kobe scored 62 points on them in just 3 quarters?

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                          • EWRMETS
                            All Star
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 7491

                            #1288
                            Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

                            Originally posted by fowess
                            I don't know if this has been said, but the Lakers must be thanking David Stern for not changing the playoff format because we all know Dallas would be demolishing them at the moment and the Suns would probably be demolishing the Grizz.
                            That's an awful argument. The Lakers have had more trouble with the Suns than any other team. I can't believe the excuses some people on this board will try to come up with, instead of just admitting how awesome the Lakers are playing.

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                            • NoSkillz50
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 2267

                              #1289
                              Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

                              Don't forget that Kwame is a very good defender and could probably contain Amare decently. I thnk Diaw and Thomas can expose Kwames weaknesses more than Amare could since Kwame has trouble gaurding guys on the perimeter but strives at gaurding guys on the blocks.

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                              • fowess
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 208

                                #1290
                                Re: ***Official Running Commentary of Every Single 1st Rd NBA Playoff Game Thread***

                                Originally posted by EWRMETS
                                That's an awful argument. The Lakers have had more trouble with the Suns than any other team. I can't believe the excuses some people on this board will try to come up with, instead of just admitting how awesome the Lakers are playing.

                                I don't recall saying the Lakers aren't doing an awesome job. I am actually quite happy to see what I'm seeing, to see the team finally understanding the concepts of the triangle and finally buying into it, and the role players finally gaining confidence ...

                                but ...

                                yeah, Kobe scored 62 on them in 3 quarters in the regular season, but he also scored 45 a game against the Suns in their 4 games and had one win (when Nash didn't play) in the regular season and they're now outplaying the Suns night in and night out. The regular season doesn't really matter is what I'm trying to get at (which the Lakers have proven thus far, right?)

                                It's just that a Laker/Dallas series would probably lack the post dominance on the Lakers part since Dallas has a lot more bigs (and bigs that block shots at that) and guys more suited to play half court offense than the Suns do. Maybe, Kwame and Lamar have decent series against Dallas too but they would not be dominating Dirk/Diop/Dampier like they are dominating this size deficient Suns team. And since LA is dominating the paint, thus slowing the game down, the Suns can't run and their offense comes to a screeching halt at times. Dallas, on the other hand, is a team that plays particularly well in the half court (under Avery), so the tempo the Lakers are currently setting wouldn't upset the Mavs much at all. Let us also not forget that Dallas has more scorers that can create their own shots than Phoenix has.

                                I probably shouldn't have said that Dallas would be destroying the Lakers right now, but it's crazy to not admit Phoenix (in terms of postseason play, when the game slows down) was a better matchup for the Lakers than Dallas.

                                By the by, the Lakers are doing a terrific job and I've been preaching to my friends that I believe they will win a championship in the next 3 to 4 years (and hell, maybe even sooner than that since they finally seem to get it now) but I firmly believe that if they had been playing Dallas right now, we would have a totally different story.

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