S. Marion on the Block

[TheMatrix31]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

I don't blame him for feeling underappreciated with all the crap he gets year in, year out especially with thes stupid trade rumors.

You want him to defend Tony Parker then defend Tim Duncan on the next play, then you want him to help Raja shut down Ginobili and you still want him to bring even BETTER offensive stats than he already does at the same time?

Some people have ridiculous expectations.

[HMcCoy]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

I don't blame him for feeling underappreciated with all the crap he gets year in, year out especially with thes stupid trade rumors.

You want him to defend Tony Parker then defend Tim Duncan on the next play, then you want him to help Raja shut down Ginobili and you still want him to bring even BETTER offensive stats than he already does at the same time?

Some people have ridiculous expectations.

True.

[Court_vision]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

The Suns main problem is that Marions best position is PF...

And so is Amare's.

They simply can't get past the Spurs with Amare at PF and Marion at SF.

Look at that series just gone by...Marion did nothing. He played about one decent quarter...and that was the game Amare was suspended.

They need to find a true C to play next to Amare and let Amare play PF exclusively.

Nash and Amare are the keys...so Marion is the only expendable they have.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

Positions don't mean anything for the Suns.

[Bizzy Da Kid]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

Positions don't mean anything for the Suns.

Only on offense, defense....thats a different story.

[Court_vision]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

Positions don't mean anything for the Suns.

That's not true...well, at least when it matters most.

They play Kurt Thomas specifically when they play the Spurs.

I.e. they "try" and play someone who can guard TD.

Because Amare and Marion can't get it done.

Duncan owns the Suns front line. That's the reason they'll likely make changes.

There's no use having a great regular season team + a great offense if you can't ever get past the Spurs.

Something needs to be done.

[stephenyoungchoi]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

The Suns main problem is that Marions best position is PF...

And so is Amare's.

They simply can't get past the Spurs with Amare at PF and Marion at SF.

Look at that series just gone by...Marion did nothing. He played about one decent quarter...and that was the game Amare was suspended.

They need to find a true C to play next to Amare and let Amare play PF exclusively.

Nash and Amare are the keys...so Marion is the only expendable they have.

the problem w/ that is the Suns offense relies mostly on mismatches, their fast break and team speed. They are effective because Amare is a quick PF playing C which let's him outrun or outquick his slower defenders... same w/ Marion.... If they go the traditional route w/ Amare as the 4 and get a true center then they lose some of their speed advantage. It would be interesting to see if they go that way. It could either take them over the top or just slow them down...... it's a dilema that the Sun's are in.... keep the same successful formula or try to change their style....

[SkinsBoYee]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

How about Brendan Haywood, Jarvis Hayes, and Antonio Daniels for him....

I mean, can't a Bullets fan dream?

[Psyblast]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns//articles/0611suns0612-ON.html

Marion's name also has surfaced in trade rumors with the Detroit Pistons, who would send forward-center Rasheed Wallace to Phoenix.

This idea would be conflicting for Phoenix.

Wallace's skills are a good fit, but his on-court behavior contrasts with the club's emphasis on character.

Wallace, 32, is an ideal basketball piece, because he shoots and runs well at 6 feet 11 and keeps the floor spread (as Tim Thomas did with the Suns in 2006), is a top post defender (which would help Amaré Stoudemire), has been a popular teammate at each stop and played for Portland when D'Antoni was an assistant coach there in 2000-01.

But even if the Suns were ready to make that deal, would the Pistons be willing? Marion is a small forward, the same position played by Detroit's Tayshaun Prince, but could be asked to play power forward to make the Pistons more athletic.

Wallace will make about $3.65 million less that Marion in 2007-08 and has a deal that expires in 2009.

Um....yeah......

[mgoblue]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns...ns0612-ON.html



Um....yeah......

yeah, in a mf'ing heartbeat...I love Sheed, but it would be the perfect time to get him out, before he starts the natural decline

[Kruza]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

I wouldn't make this deal by any stretch of the imagination.

To make this deal work for the Pistons, Shawn Marion has to compliment a PG who can push the tempo throughout the game, and Chauncey Billups is certainly not that type of player. Marion is a good open-court player who can improve the transition game, but the reality of the matter is this is still primarily a half-court oriented team offensively as long as Billups is manning the point. So we give up a big man who could play in the post and shoot 3s for a swingman who hustles but cannot create his own shot. Doesn't make much sense. And Billups isn't much of a drive-and-kick guard who can take advantage of Marion's 3-pt shooting ability and catching drop-off passes and finishing, so basically this move will cripple our team on the offensive end.

And I have a feeling here that some of you are underrating Rasheed Wallace on the defensive end. He's the only reliable post defender on the team. Marion cannot and I mean cannot defend a big man in the post for an extensive period of time. So who are you asking to do this now? Jason Maxiell? Too short. Amir Johnson? Too inexperienced. Nazr Mohammed? Heh, you've got to be kidding. Dale Davis? I don't think so. He and Marion on the court would bog down the offense considerably. Plus he may not re-sign here anyway. Sheed has to remain here in Detroit longer so Amir can pick up some things and learn from him.

Now if a deal with Amare Stoudemire was being proposed instead of Marion, then I'm all for that.

Kruza

[GSW]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

I'd take matrix on the warriors.. the suns can have j rich and pietrus.
and harrington if they want

[TheMatrix31]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

The problem with this whole Marion thing is, all these ridiculous articles, stories, and wiretap snippits (on RealGM) don't offer ANYTHING substantial as far as actual RUMORS go.

This is just speculation, overblown speculation in fact. Like the comments about the Celtics being interested in Marion, then going on to write about how the Celtics MIGHT be able to get him. Of COURSE the Celtics are interested in him, who wouldn't be?

These "stories" offer nothing of actual news/development substance, and are just writers/journalists who are playing Backseat GM regarding the "situation".

[BTB]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

The Celtics aren't that interested in Marion, we were approached by Phoenix not the other way around.

Right now we are looking at variations of R. Lewis in a sign and trade and another rumor is trading down with Atlanta and also getting Joe Johnson.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: S. Marion on the Block

The Celtics aren't that interested in Marion, we were approached by Phoenix not the other way around.

Right now we are looking at variations of R. Lewis in a sign and trade and another rumor is trading down with Atlanta and also getting Joe Johnson.

Boston getting:
1) Rashard Lewis - possible, but highly unlikely
2) Joe Johnson -