All Kobe and Laker Talk.....

[Alykhan]

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Please post it here, there is too much Kobe talk, all other Kobe topics will be locked.

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About time. Maybe you should also start a locked thread :
T-Mac vs. Kobe

and maybe also one for T-Mac

[Alykhan]

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Please post it here, there is too much Kobe talk, all other Kobe topics will be locked.

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About time. Maybe you should also start a locked thread :
T-Mac vs. Kobe

and maybe also one for T-Mac

[Alykhan]

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AI is really over-rated IMO. He's a great player but not one of the best in the NBA right now.

Jason Kidd is the best point guard IMO.

[Alykhan]

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AI is really over-rated IMO. He's a great player but not one of the best in the NBA right now.

Jason Kidd is the best point guard IMO.

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All i have to say is, if you're putting up 35-50 shots a game, YOU SHOULD BE, I'll repeat, YOU SHOULD BE Scoring 40+ PPG.

It's not a strong feet, for the record books, because Shaq demands so much attention.

I'm coming up with this logic because Ruben Douglas is the leading scorer in the nation for NCAA, and he's attempting a lot of shots a game at times. So he SHOULD be scoring and he is. It's not a big deal. The sad thing is, Ruben has no teammates that demand as much attention as Shaq.

Kobe is just showing off, and proving why 80 hours a week practicing your game is well worth it. But it's really un NECCESARY to score 40+ ppg for a record.

He's showing off and therfore conceited and a cocky bastard, IMO.

He's still ranked high on my list of great nba players, but I don't have to like the guy.

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All i have to say is, if you're putting up 35-50 shots a game, YOU SHOULD BE, I'll repeat, YOU SHOULD BE Scoring 40+ PPG.

It's not a strong feet, for the record books, because Shaq demands so much attention.

I'm coming up with this logic because Ruben Douglas is the leading scorer in the nation for NCAA, and he's attempting a lot of shots a game at times. So he SHOULD be scoring and he is. It's not a big deal. The sad thing is, Ruben has no teammates that demand as much attention as Shaq.

Kobe is just showing off, and proving why 80 hours a week practicing your game is well worth it. But it's really un NECCESARY to score 40+ ppg for a record.

He's showing off and therfore conceited and a cocky bastard, IMO.

He's still ranked high on my list of great nba players, but I don't have to like the guy.

[Alykhan]

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The thing is you look at Kobe Bryant's team and he has Shaq (one of the top 5 in the NBA irregardless if it's because of his size or not) and Derek Fisher who is somewhat talented.

Who does T-Mac have??

Armstrong and that's it.

[Alykhan]

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The thing is you look at Kobe Bryant's team and he has Shaq (one of the top 5 in the NBA irregardless if it's because of his size or not) and Derek Fisher who is somewhat talented.

Who does T-Mac have??

Armstrong and that's it.

[ShaKobe]

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I don't think Kobe has been shooting that much. Definitely not 35-50 shots a game. I think last night was the most in this streak. Before that, he's probably averaged around 28 or so shots a game. That's still a whole lotta shots. His arms must be tired. But I say, if you're hitting more than 50% of them, it's no big deal. Plus, the Lakers are winning, so it's even more icing on the cake.

[ShaKobe]

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I don't think Kobe has been shooting that much. Definitely not 35-50 shots a game. I think last night was the most in this streak. Before that, he's probably averaged around 28 or so shots a game. That's still a whole lotta shots. His arms must be tired. But I say, if you're hitting more than 50% of them, it's no big deal. Plus, the Lakers are winning, so it's even more icing on the cake.

[Alykhan]

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Also, T-Mac is one year younger than Kobe and has no titles yet plays a smarter game.

T-mac dosent take that many shots when he knows he's having a bad night.

And even when he's hitting most of his shots, he would never go past like 30 or 35 FG attempts.

[Alykhan]

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Also, T-Mac is one year younger than Kobe and has no titles yet plays a smarter game.

T-mac dosent take that many shots when he knows he's having a bad night.

And even when he's hitting most of his shots, he would never go past like 30 or 35 FG attempts.

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That's a good point. They're still winning.

I think we should worry or complain when the lakers start losing because of the shots Kobe are taking.

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That's a good point. They're still winning.

I think we should worry or complain when the lakers start losing because of the shots Kobe are taking.

[Alykhan]

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I don't think Kobe has been shooting that much. Definitely not 35-50 shots a game. I think last night was the most in this streak. Before that, he's probably averaged around 28 or so shots a game. That's still a whole lotta shots. His arms must be tired. But I say, if you're hitting more than 50% of them, it's no big deal. Plus, the Lakers are winning, so it's even more icing on the cake.

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He's still the 2nd best in the league (IMO) and there's nothing wrong with him jacking up shots if it helps his team win. When it dosen't help his team, then there's something wrong.

I still think T-Mac is the better player, just slightly. Now, if the Magic make it into the playoffs...I think T-Mac will get MVP.

Read this article from 1997:


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Thomas' record: 3-for-3 on draft day
Thursday, June 26, 1997

Thomas' record: 3-for-3 on draft day

By CRAIG DANIELS -- Toronto Sun
When Golden State announced that it was taking Adonal Foyle with the eighth pick of the night, Raptors GM Isiah Thomas knew for certain. He looked up at his office ceiling, clasped his hands above his head in genuflection and said three words.
"Thank you, God."
Then he punched the air and shouted: "Yes!"
Three times as a GM Thomas has gone to the draft well, and three times he has had the opportunity to select precisely the player he wanted.
Last night, it was high schooler Tracy Lamar McGrady Jr., a 6-foot-8 swingman who turned 18 four weeks ago.
And he signed a $12-million shoe deal with Adidas last week.
"We're ecstatic," Thomas said. "I never though he would be there at the ninth pick. Very rarely do you get this type of talent and potential at nine."
Thomas wanted McGrady, despite his young age, this bad: "If we had had the second, third or fourth pick," Thomas said, beaming from ear to ear, "this is the guy we'd have taken."
The irony is that last night's draft was a crap-shoot, the likes of which Thomas never had seen before, not as the official GM in Toronto, not as the unofficial one in Detroit.
Basically, short of San Antonio, which surprised no one by taking Tim Duncan No. 1 overall, no one else knew what they were going to do or who they were going to get.
Except, apparently, Thomas.
Four weeks ago he told people in the Raptors office he wanted McGrady. Problem was, he was convinced there was no way McGrady would still be there at No. 9, and there wasn't much else he was interested in. For that reason, Thomas was trying hard - right up until 3 p.m. yesterday - to trade the pick.
"We had some interesting offers for nine," Thomas said, "but we didn't get anything that excited us."
So when it was clear that a deal wasn't going to happen, Thomas had his people begin the back-room manoeuvring needed to help his chances of McGrady surviving until nine.
The most important smokescreen came in the form of calls made by Toronto scouts to L.A., offering to trade McGrady, if he was still available, to the Lakers, for Elden Campbell. The trade was never going to happen, but the talk, deliberately loose, was designed to plant the notion in the Warriors' minds that the Raptors didn't think much of McGrady, and therefore neither should they.
Who knows if it had any effect. The bottom line was that Thomas got who he wanted.
"For us, this is like getting the first pick overall next year," said Thomas, referring to the fact that had McGrady played a year of university, he probably would have come out early and, in Thomas' mind, would have gone first overall.
It was around McGrady, in fact, that most of the draft-night intrigue focused.
There was talk of the Chicago Bulls trading Scottie Pippen to Boston for its third and sixth picks in order to get their hands on Keith Van Horn and McGrady, but that crashed when Van Horn went to Philly at No. 2.
"We were shocked that Tracy was still available," Raptors coach Darrell Walker said.
According to Thomas, McGrady will step in and play right away behind point guard Damon Stoudamire, shooting guard Doug Christie and soon-to-be-re-signed small forward Walt Williams.
"McGrady is the kind of kid who can play one, two or three," said Thomas, referring to the point, the shooting guard and the small forward positions. And the Raptors like the way he plays, believing he'll fit their running, open-court system.
The question will be about McGrady's maturity, the same kinds of questions that now exist about Marcus Camby. Time will tell.
But last night, Thomas got what he wanted from one of the weakest drafts in years. Three for three.

Craig Daniels can be reached via e-mail at [email protected]

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