MVP discussion

[ex carrabba fan]

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d rob didnt have as much help as alot of those other guys there was only one other person on that team that has more then 17 per game that bein elliot that aint much

and for k.g other then spree and sam there was nothing and k.g. pratically carried them

and iverson did what lebron is doing now taking a horrid team far, not to mention he already took them to the finals once

any other mvp candiate with lebrons team would be no where close where the cavs are now

I'll take your last two points but I'm not kidding myself about D Rob's squad. They finished with the BEST record in the NBA that year, winning over 60 games. K.G.'s squad had a contract hungry Spree and Sam playing out of their damn minds winning the most games in the West that year.

[Kashanova]

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I'll take your last two points but I'm not kidding myself about D Rob's squad. They finished with the BEST record in the NBA that year, winning over 60 games. K.G.'s squad had a contract hungry Spree and Sam playing out of their damn minds winning the most games in the West that year.

D Rob was a beast back in the day though, look at that team with out him they had one of the worst records one of those years he was injuried but it was without rodman but it still says how important he was to that team

[ZB9]

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d rob didnt have as much help as alot of those other guys there was only one other person on that team that has more then 17 per game that bein elliot that aint much

true imo. San Antonio was a playoff team with Robinson. I think the very next season, Robinson got injured, and he missed the season...the Spurs proceeded to win something like 20 games and were a lottery team without Robinson (which allowed them to get Duncan)

[The 24th Letter]

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We were SOLID the 94-95 season....
Rob, Elliot and Johnson all had career years....and when Rodman came back from suspension we were even better...

Rob had help, not as much as alot of those other guys but help nonetheless

that being sad....w\o him....bleh...

[ex carrabba fan]

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D Rob was a beast back in the day though, look at that team with out him they had one of the worst records one of those years he was injuried but it was without rodman but it still says how important he was to that team

true imo. San Antonio was a playoff team with Robinson. I think the very next season, Robinson got injured, and he missed the season...the Spurs proceeded to win something like 20 games and were a lottery team without Robinson (which allowed them to get Duncan)

You guys missed out on one season: Elliot missed half the season, and Rodman wasn't there.

Lucas was replaced by former Pacers coach Bob Hill for the 1994-95 season, which would turn out to be the Spurs' most successful regular season until 2006. Elliott returned to the team after an uneventful season with the Pistons, and the team finished with the NBA's best record at 62-20. David Robinson was named the league's Most Valuable Player. The Spurs reached the Western Conference Finals, but lost to the eventual NBA Champion Houston Rockets. After the pregame MVP award ceremony honoring David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon dominated the game, outscoring Robinson 42-22 in a Rockets win. Throughout the season, and particularly in the playoffs, there appeared to be friction developing between Rodman and several Spurs' teammates, most notably Robinson, and Rodman was traded after the season to the Chicago Bulls.

The Spurs finished the next season (1995-96) under Hill at 59-23 and lost in the Western Conference semi-finals to the Jazz. Few observers could have predicted how far the Spurs would fall during the 1996-97 season. An injury limited Robinson to just six games during the season, and Elliott also missed more than half the season due to injury. The Spurs ended the season with a 20-62 record, the worst in franchise history. Hill only lasted 18 games as coach that season, eventually being fired and replaced by Spurs General Manager Gregg Popovich, who had also served a stint under Brown as an assistant coach.

[ZB9]

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We were SOLID the 94-95 season....
Rob, Elliot and Johnson all had career years....and when Rodman came back from suspension we were even better...

Rob had help, not as much as alot of those other guys but help nonetheless

the year that San Antonio was one of the worst teams in the league and were in the lottery was the year that Robinson was injured and missed the season right?

[ex carrabba fan]

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the year that San Antonio was one of the worst teams in the league and were in the lottery was the year that Robinson was injured and missed the season right?

ZB look at my previous post.

[ZB9]

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You guys missed out on one season: Elliot missed half the season, and Rodman wasn't there.

Lucas was replaced by former Pacers coach Bob Hill for the 1994-95 season, which would turn out to be the Spurs' most successful regular season until 2006. Elliott returned to the team after an uneventful season with the Pistons, and the team finished with the NBA's best record at 62-20. David Robinson was named the league's Most Valuable Player. The Spurs reached the Western Conference Finals, but lost to the eventual NBA Champion Houston Rockets. After the pregame MVP award ceremony honoring David Robinson, Hakeem Olajuwon dominated the game, outscoring Robinson 42-22 in a Rockets win. Throughout the season, and particularly in the playoffs, there appeared to be friction developing between Rodman and several Spurs' teammates, most notably Robinson, and Rodman was traded after the season to the Chicago Bulls.

The Spurs finished the next season (1995-96) under Hill at 59-23 and lost in the Western Conference semi-finals to the Jazz. Few observers could have predicted how far the Spurs would fall during the 1996-97 season. An injury limited Robinson to just six games during the season, and Elliott also missed more than half the season due to injury. The Spurs ended the season with a 20-62 record, the worst in franchise history. Hill only lasted 18 games as coach that season, eventually being fired and replaced by Spurs General Manager Gregg Popovich, who had also served a stint under Brown as an assistant coach.

ok gotcha. I skipped a season

still, the year they won 20 Robinson was out. That had to be a big reason...although like you said, Elliott was out much of the year as well. I had forgot about Elliot being injured that season.

[The 24th Letter]

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geez i remember the 97 season. i wanted to throw my elliott jersey (it was the only one i had) in the trash lol

[NoSkillz50]

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how valueable can bryant be if the team can pretty much stand pat if he misses some games imo they wouldnt be the same record they have now but pretty much close to it especially now with gasol and when bynum comes back

C'mon man. If Kobe was out right now there is no way the Lakers would have won 8 of their last 10. With Bynum already out, if Kobe were to miss a game the Lakers would barely be better than the Grizzlies were when Gasol was the main guy. Without Kobe in the lineup, the Lakers are not that same. Kobe is still the main reason the Lakers are doing so well.

[Briman123]

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I hate how you guys think CP3 is the only reason why Hornets are #1 in the West, because they have nobody else. Any credit to David West? He is one of those players who doesn’t seem to be impacting the game as much he really does until you look at the stat sheet after the game. He has been doing that for a few years now. He was also an All-star this year too. A solid 19ppg/9 Reb player every game.

Which credit be do to LeBron, he has no all-stars helping him.

[ILLCHILL]

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Like I said, that line of logic is flawed to me. Just because they added Gasol he cannot win? So the award has a pre-determined criteria? Your candidate has to be on a mediocre team?

I agree with you that he SHOULD, but me and you both know that the voters have a different mindset than that.

[jmood88]

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how valueable can bryant be if the team can pretty much stand pat if he misses some games imo they wouldnt be the same record they have now but pretty much close to it especially now with gasol and when bynum comes back

What are you basing this on? The Grizzlies weren't that great of a team with Gasol on it.

[Kashanova]

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C'mon man. If Kobe was out right now there is no way the Lakers would have won 8 of their last 10. With Bynum already out, if Kobe were to miss a game the Lakers would barely be better than the Grizzlies were when Gasol was the main guy. Without Kobe in the lineup, the Lakers are not that same. Kobe is still the main reason the Lakers are doing so well.

with bynum there im pretty sure it would be ok

[Kashanova]

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What are you basing this on? The Grizzlies weren't that great of a team with Gasol on it.

thats this year but i recall they made the playoffs in the west and thats saying something