JJ Reddick...WTF Happened???...I Need To Know

[TMagic]

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1. O, I have no idea about his percentage for the YEAR, I'm just saying in that graphic it was 98% from what I saw, so it looked pretty good. And it's hard to shoot a good percentage when you only get like 5-10 minutes a game, there's no chance to get into rhythm.

2/3. I don't remember ever calling him the best shooter ever, this is actually my first time to comment on this player at all, I'm just saying if he's a very good shooter, he should get playing time. Again, the percentages aren't really fair because he has no chance to get into much of a rhythm...

Yeah. That was me--well the commercial for the better basketball videos that say JJ Redick is the greatest shooter of all time, which I always find funny everytime the commercial comes on...lol

But I have to totally agree with you about rhythm. Players struggle when they do not get consistent minutes and have no set role with the team. So of coarse JJ's percentages are going to be low. If he was getting consistent, extended minutes on the floor, I guarantee that his percentages would be much, much better.

If you look at players numbers over previous seasons, you will see a trend. The more minutes a player gets, the better his percentages. Vujacic's percentages increased once he began getting consistent minutes. So did Kapono's. Scola's play improved once he got into a consistent rotation. Monta Ellis has improved with increased, consistent minutes. You can probably trace this through the majority of players in the league.

So we should not be basing JJ's shooting skill on his percentages. It's just not fair. :wink:

[BigTigLSU]

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JJ Redick isnt Bobby Hurly (preaccident)... hell he isnt even Trajon Langdon at this point. Rule of thumb when it comes great college players if they cant create thier own shot they better be unconcious when they finally get PT ask Kapono how he got his contract from Toronto. Real shooters can shot cold or warmed up and if you arent hitting shots then why are you on the floor if thats your only skill

[Cebby]

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But I have to totally agree with you about rhythm. Players struggle when they do not get consistent minutes and have no set role with the team. So of coarse JJ's percentages are going to be low. If he was getting consistent, extended minutes on the floor, I guarantee that his percentages would be much, much better.

If you look at players numbers over previous seasons, you will see a trend. The more minutes a player gets, the better his percentages. Vujacic's percentages increased once he began getting consistent minutes. So did Kapono's. Scola's play improved once he got into a consistent rotation. Monta Ellis has improved with increased, consistent minutes. You can probably trace this through the majority of players in the league.

So we should not be basing JJ's shooting skill on his percentages. It's just not fair.

Yes, if JJ had extended time on the floor, his shooting would go up. However, there's no reason for him to get that extended time. Considering he brings absolutely nothing to the table except an allegedly great shooting ability, why would Orlando give him more playing time? He's always going to be entering the game cold. The same thing with Kapono, Vujacic, and the rest. However, given his horrible defense and pretty much every other skill, Orlando can't give him more PT. It'd be one thing if he was guaranteed from 3, but he's not. The points about other players improving isn't all that relevant. Kapono was great no matter how many shots he had (shot 47.7% his first year), and Vujacic was just a young buck. JJ is the same age as Vujacic, but instead of manning up and improving his shot, he's just sucking.

Tmac, I didn't mean for you to think the second or third points were directed at you. There was just a few post break in between yours and mine, so I put your quote at the top. Sorry, didn't mean for you to think I was calling you out or something.

[P2K]

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Kyle Korver ****s on JJ friggin' Redick. Seriously.

I don't know if these people defending him are closet Duke fans or what, but the truth is right there in front of you. Orlando likes popping three's and yet they won't use Redick?

You don't need major minutes to get your stats to look great. What's funnier is that he got way more minutes his rookie year and this year, his minutes got cut in half lol.

You can't be a complete black hole out there on defense. and on offense in the NBA, you can't contribute unless you can create your own shot. Korver, while not great at it, has shown he can actually do it. And he hustles out there on defense. Is he Ron Artest out there? Hell no, but he get his hands on the ball.

JJ Redick is a talentless product of Dickie V and Duke that will forever get pardoned by the likes of people, like in this thread, because of who he is.

[P2K]

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Who's next? Randolph Childress???

[Cebby]

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Who's next? Randolph Childress???

The NBA is actively conspiring to keep Marquis Daniels down. They know that if he does well, players will start flooding to Auburn and the NCAA and NBA can't have that.

[Brankles]

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What happened to JJ Redick? The Magic drafted him.

Basically everyone that the Magic drafted in the past 10 years (besides Dwight) have turned out to be terrible.

We have some of the worst talent evaluators in the league. I remember watching JJ play his last collegiate game against LSU and have Garrett Temple, a protypical NBA guard, cover him and absolutely terrorize Redick. He couldn't get off a decent shot, even with the help of screens and multiple ball touches each possession.


I went to watch the 2006 draft at the TD Waterhouse Center with all my fellow Magic fans, and ended up booing for like 15 minutes because we passed up Ronnie Brewer and Rodney Carney for this Dukie bum. No handles, no defense, low basketball IQ, unathletic... it was pretty obvious this guy wasn't going to succeed in the league.

[youvalss]

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I hope for him that he's got a BA.

[The 24th Letter]

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As bad as yall say he is.....
why hasnt he been shipped to the D-League?
If im not mistaken, he has been on the roster all year...

Ill wait until he gets a chance to play before I dog him out....dude can shoot...and I think he could be good given a chance to get some rhythm

[TMagic]

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As bad as yall say he is.....
why hasnt he been shipped to the D-League?
If im not mistaken, he has been on the roster all year...

Ill wait until he gets a chance to play before I dog him out....dude can shoot...and I think he could be good given a chance to get some rhythm

I hadn't even thought of that. Why isn't he playing in the D-League so that he can work on the weak parts of his game? It makes no sense just to have him sitting on the bench because he can't do much else but shoot. The Magic should put him in the D-League so that he can improve his game.

And I have to agree and say that I can't knock on Redick until he gets the minutes.

I remember the game they had against San Antonio where Dwight be the buzzer with the oop. Redick dropped 16 on 6-11 shooting, 3-8 from downtown, and 0 turnovers. He was critical to the Magic coming back to beat the Spurs and he was the one who made crucial plays down the stretch. He played 31 minutes that game.

I know it was one game. But it shows that JJ is very capable in the league and can definitely contribute. I just would like to see what he'd do if given time like that every game.

[The 24th Letter]

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A spot on a roster is hard to come by in the NBA these days....check the "Transaction" section of NBA.com...people are getting sent to the D-League everyday... this is especially true w\ successful teams...which the Magic have been this season...The Magic must see SOMETHING in him...they arent keeping him there for his looks

[Chip Douglass]

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I remember watching JJ play his last collegiate game against LSU and have Garrett Temple, a protypical NBA guard, cover him and absolutely terrorize Redick. He couldn't get off a decent shot, even with the help of screens and multiple ball touches each possession.

Yep. That game against LSU and the games against UNC when Jackie Manuel matched up against him just summed up his NBA potential in a nutshell.

Of course, he doesn't have Coach K running multiple ball screens for him on each possession either.

[DC]

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He is capable. A kid like him has been mentally tested. Arguably the most hated player in college basketball history so he HAS been through adversity. He just needs CONSISTENT minutes. Remember folks; this is only his 2nd year.

He knows he is a shooter; everyone KNOWS he is a shooter. He just lacks those minutes on a consistent basis and as a result his confidence MAY be shot.

I am pulling for the dude because I loved watching that pretty jumpshot in college.

[P2K]

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He is capable. A kid like him has been mentally tested. Arguably the most hated player in college basketball history so he HAS been through adversity. He just needs CONSISTENT minutes. Remember folks; this is only his 2nd year.

He knows he is a shooter; everyone KNOWS he is a shooter. He just lacks those minutes on a consistent basis and as a result his confidence MAY be shot.

I am pulling for the dude because I loved watching that pretty jumpshot in college.

He doesn't need consistent minutes. He needs the talent to create his own shot.

At his age, I doubt he's gonna develop that.

[superjames1992]

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He's a nice shooter, but just doesn't fit in Orlando IMO. I actually think he would do well on the Spurs where he could spot up for a lot of open threes when Manu or Tony penetrate, or teams are forced to double on Timmy Duncan. I think he could get some open shots and convert, but who knows...