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  • ryanm1058123
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    • Jan 2004
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    #1

    Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

    I've never seen a more uncreative PG in my life. He racks up the assists and doesnt turn the ball over but #1 he can't get to the rack without a pick and #2 he picks up his dribble at the worst time. he NEVER gets any of his guys easy shots because he's afraid of turning the ball over. which is why the raptors are such a fluky perimeter team. they dont get any easy shots or anything. Calderon dribbles the ball for 19 seconds and then gives it to some guy for a contested shot.

    Most overrated player in the NBA today.
  • Vince
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    • Aug 2002
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    #2
    Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

    He needs to actually start driving to the lane after the pick.

    Raptors offense is based entirely on P and R. I really don't care if he can get past his man with or without a pick..What gets to me is that he doesn't attempt to drive after the pick is set and this is what most Raptors fans are pissed about...

    But dude, did Caldy hit on your sis or something? This is the only topic you ever talk about in this forum...
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    • ryanm1058123
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      #3
      Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

      Originally posted by Vince
      He needs to actually start driving to the lane after the pick.

      Raptors offense is based entirely on P and R. I really don't care if he can get past his man with or without a pick..What gets to me is that he doesn't attempt to drive after the pick is set and this is what most Raptors fans are pissed about...

      But dude, did Caldy hit on your sis or something? This is the only topic you ever talk about in this forum...
      Just sick and tired of the Calderon loving. They traded away the wrong PG.

      He can't split a double team. He is too afraid of turning the ball over so he makes the safe pass.

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      • Vince
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        Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

        I'm not going to argue about this topic AGAIN...I hated the way Caldy played tonight...Incredably passive, but we did not trade the wrong QB.

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        • ryanm1058123
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          • Jan 2004
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          #5
          Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

          he always plays like this. even when he puts up big numbers, he never affects the game. Whens the last time he got anybody easy shots? He gets his assists on long range shots.

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          • NBA2k8 CHAMP
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            #6
            Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

            Bravo

            I'm tired of hearing about he's a top 10 pg.

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            • Dawz
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              • Feb 2003
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              #7
              Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

              Originally posted by NBA2k8 CHAMP
              Bravo

              I'm tired of hearing about he's a top 10 pg.
              I'd put Paul, Davis, Nash, Parker, Iverson and Kidd ahead of him... Name me four others with a straight face

              And i'd argue the original point, but if the OP seriously thinks Calderon's getting almost 10 assists a game on contested long range shots then whats the point

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              • DakkoN
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                • Sep 2006
                • 5611

                #8
                Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

                Originally posted by Dawz
                I'd put Paul, Davis, Nash, Parker, Iverson and Kidd ahead of him... Name me four others with a straight face
                Deron Williams, Gilbert Arenas, Chauncey Billups is 3. I'd even throw in Mo Williams for argument's sake, just because I'm on the "Calderon is overrated" train also.
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                • Vince
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                  Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

                  Originally posted by DakkoN
                  Deron Williams, Gilbert Arenas, Chauncey Billups is 3. I'd even throw in Mo Williams for argument's sake, just because I'm on the "Calderon is overrated" train also.
                  Why is he overrated?
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                  • Dawz
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #10
                    Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

                    Originally posted by DakkoN
                    Deron Williams, Gilbert Arenas, Chauncey Billups is 3. I'd even throw in Mo Williams for argument's sake, just because I'm on the "Calderon is overrated" train also.
                    Shame on me for forgetting Deron ... Chauncey probably too, I can give you that ... No way would I put Mo ahead of him though... And Gilbert has to fire off so many damn shots to have an impact I wouldn't be so quick to put him ahead

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                    • DakkoN
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                      • Sep 2006
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                      #11
                      Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

                      Originally posted by Vince
                      Why is he overrated?
                      Because he's not on the same level as Paul/Williams/Nash like all the Raps fans like to think. Numbers aren't everything, just like steals and blocks aren't indicative of being a good defender.
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                      • Vince
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                        #12
                        Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

                        Originally posted by DakkoN
                        Because he's not on the same level as Paul/Williams/Nash like all the Raps fans like to think. Numbers aren't everything, just like steals and blocks aren't indicative of being a good defender.
                        lol

                        And which Raptor fans think he's on the level of Paul and Nash?

                        B.S. No one has ever said he was. Some real reasons please...
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                        • DakkoN
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                          • Sep 2006
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                          #13
                          Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

                          There's plenty of Calderon homerism on OS. Raptors fans overrate their team just as much as all the Blazers fans do, when the only players on those teams that should be overrated are the young studs (Bosh and Roy). I can remember reading here that Lamarcus Aldridge is the best mid range big in the NBA. Just because you take a lot of mid range J's doesn't mean you're the best shooter.
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                          • J.R. Locke
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                            • Nov 2004
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                            #14
                            Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

                            Most players cannot get by there man without a pick....Calderon is playing with two post players. His job is to get the ball into the post. I think he plays very creative but the move into a half court team this year has changed the way the Raptors play.

                            T.J. Ford just dominated down the stretch against OKC.

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                            • Vince
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                              #15
                              Re: Jose Calderon: why Assist/TO ratio is overrated

                              Originally posted by DakkoN
                              There's plenty of Calderon homerism on OS. Raptors fans overrate their team just as much as all the Blazers fans do, when the only players on those teams that should be overrated are the young studs (Bosh and Roy). I can remember reading here that Lamarcus Aldridge is the best mid range big in the NBA. Just because you take a lot of mid range J's doesn't mean you're the best shooter.
                              Meh. I don't believe this at all.There's like 2 or 3 really active Raptors fans and I'm one of them. No one has actually said he's on the same level as Nash, D-Will or Paul. The only thing they might've said was that he was worthy of all star consideration last season for the way he played...That's not really overrated...If you're talking about Real gm raptor fans, I agree though.
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