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  • Altimus
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    • Nov 2004
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    #241
    Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by PrettyT11
    What loss?? The Bulls is up by 27 in the 4th. I think we can say this is a W for the Bulls.
    Yep, huge win by the Bulls last night. Puts the Bulls at 8th place but with so many games left it really doesn't mean anything. Especially with the Celtics, Lakers and what now seems a some what dangerous Thunder team. Yes, dangerous Thunder team. This is the kind of team that can ruin another team's Playoff hopes.

    Now, only if the Bulls could play like this on the road; ball movement was just excellent last night.

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    • Kashanova
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      • Aug 2003
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      #242
      Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

      Lebron will have 50 against the knicks tonight

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      • Checmate101
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        • Mar 2006
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        #243
        Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

        Lets see what Kobe can pull off today..
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        • Moses Shuttlesworth
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          • Aug 2006
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          #244
          Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

          refs refs refs
          ohhhhh refs just wanna have fuun

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          • Checmate101
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            • Mar 2006
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            #245
            Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

            Man, This is to easy for Kobe.
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            • ex carrabba fan
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              • Oct 2004
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              #246
              Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

              JVG was bringin the pain!!

              I agree with what he said about DAL for the most part. They are actually doing better than they should be.

              I've been saying it all year, they have no horses, especially compared to other West teams.

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              • ZB9
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                • Nov 2004
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                #247
                Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                JVG was bringin the pain!!

                I agree with what he said about DAL for the most part. They are actually doing better than they should be.

                I've been saying it all year, they have no horses, especially compared to other West teams.

                they have very little depth compared to other playoff teams in the west

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                • Bornindamecca
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                  • Jul 2007
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                  #248
                  Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                  I'd say they have MORE depth than San Antonio

                  They are building around one non-elite player, and a bunch of third options, and that's their problem. Dirk is a very good player, but he's not an elite player, and these days that's not good enough. All of the best teams have at least one elite player.
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                  • ZB9
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                    • Nov 2004
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                    #249
                    Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                    I'd say they have MORE depth than San Antonio

                    They are building around one non-elite player, and a bunch of third options, and that's their problem. Dirk is a very good player, but he's not an elite player, and these days that's not good enough. All of the best teams have at least one elite player.

                    you clearly dont know what an elite player is

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                    • Bornindamecca
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                      #250
                      Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                      Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, Tim Duncan, Chris Paul.


                      If you think Dirk is as good as any of these guys, you are clinicaly insane.
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                      • ZB9
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                        • Nov 2004
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                        #251
                        Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                        Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, Tim Duncan, Chris Paul.


                        If you think Dirk is as good as any of these guys, you are clinicaly insane.

                        if you think those are the only elite players in the league, then you lose credibility (not that you had much credibility to start with)

                        Dirk is a top 10 player in the league, and has been for a while. That is "elite"

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                        • ex carrabba fan
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                          • Oct 2004
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                          #252
                          Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                          I think it's more they don't have a system in place offensively, speaking in broad terms.

                          Look at the elite teams. Every team you know how they're going to get their points and predict the avenue they're going to take to get those points.

                          Hornets, Jazz, Spurs, Lakers they all have offensive identities. That's why I view them as the favorites and hold them in such high esteem.

                          That's the problem with DAL and Dirk.

                          I don't think I'm explaining it clearly enough, but every time I watch them play it's like they get their points "randomly"

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                          • Bornindamecca
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                            #253
                            Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                            Would you say that Dirk is as good as the guys I mentioned?
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                            • ZB9
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                              • Nov 2004
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                              #254
                              Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                              Would you say that Dirk is as good as the guys I mentioned?
                              this season, no...and I havent said that he is.

                              I guess you tried to list the players in the league that would be ranked ahead of Dirk. The list ahead of Dirk is quite short and pretty much proves the point that he is "elite". Like ive said, Dirk is a top 10 player in the league, and has been for a while.

                              but comparing players like Kobe, Lebron, Paul, and DWhistle to Dirk is apples and oranges. You cant really compare ball handlers to power forwards
                              Last edited by ZB9; 03-15-2009, 04:24 PM.

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                              • Bornindamecca
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                                #255
                                Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                                I think it's more they don't have a system in place offensively, speaking in broad terms.

                                Look at the elite teams. Every team you know how they're going to get their points and predict the avenue they're going to take to get those points.

                                Hornets, Jazz, Spurs, Lakers they all have offensive identities. That's why I view them as the favorites and hold them in such high esteem.

                                That's the problem with DAL and Dirk.

                                I don't think I'm explaining it clearly enough, but every time I watch them play it's like they get their points "randomly"
                                That's because their best player isn't elite. He gets his points from the outside, and you can't gameplan around that. All of the best players in the league are inside threats in some form or another. Going inside compromises the defense, causes them to break down, and gets outside shots for less skilled players, or in rare cases, inside shots for less skilled players. So the Roger Masons, Trevor Arizas and Verajaos of the league looks muuuch better than they really are.

                                This allows the coach to consistently put these role players in a position to hurt the other team.

                                Because Dirk never developed a killer inside game, the role players on the Mavs have to either create for themselves, or get open shots when the defense "happens" to break down. That's why they are inconsistent.

                                Dirk elite, HAHAHA

                                He's very good, but he's a 2nd tier talent

                                Originally posted by ZB9
                                this season, no...and I havent said that he is.

                                I guess you tried to list the players in the league that would be ranked ahead of Dirk. The list ahead of Dirk is quite short and pretty much proves the point that he is "elite".
                                elite |əˈlēt; āˈlēt|
                                noun
                                1 a group of people considered to be the best in a particular society or category, esp. because of their power, talent, or wealth

                                There aren't that many GREAT teams in the league. The top teams all have elite talent and Dallas doesn't. They have 2nd tier talent and third tier talent. Dirk is not the best at his position or equal to the best at his position. He doesn't have the defense, passing or leadership skills of the best players in the league.
                                Last edited by Bornindamecca; 03-15-2009, 04:22 PM.
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