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  • ZB9
    Hall Of Fame
    • Nov 2004
    • 18387

    #271
    Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Bornindamecca
    So what? There is a decent history of great scoring power forwards. And FYI, power fowards also need to block shots and rebound. Elite power forwards average 10+ rebounds a game, block shots, defend in the post and score inside.

    If they don't, who will?

    Most 2nd tier players are deficient in one area like this. For instance, if Amar'e wanted to be elite, he'd have to start defending as well. Dwight Howard is the opposite. If his offensive game continues to grow, he will be considered one of the absolute best players in the league, because he already is a GREAT rebounder and defender. Dirk is a one trick pony. Shoot, Dirk. Shoot.
    Dirk is the best rebounder on the Mavs (all time franchise leader), and they are consistently one of the better rebounding teams in the league. DIrk's career playoff averages are 25 points and 12 rebounds...and he has led the postseason in rebounding before.

    DIrk is obviously not a "lock down defender" lol and he wont make any all defense teams, but he is an underrated defender. There are some games when he forgets about playing defense or when he is tired from having to carry the offense. However, Dirk has become a very solid defender overall. If he wasnt, then the Mavs wouldnt be in the top 10 on this list every season.
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    you are overanalyzing. There are no perfect players in the NBA. Anyway, it doesnt matter what you think. Again, Dirk's play on the court speaks for itself.
    Last edited by ZB9; 03-15-2009, 04:47 PM.

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    • ProfessaPackMan
      Bamma
      • Mar 2008
      • 63852

      #272
      Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

      Trevor Ariza......wow man lol.
      #RespectTheCulture

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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #273
        Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

        He's going to garner some $$$ this Summer.

        I'm hesitant to throw big $ at him, but L.A. can't afford to let him walk. Uggggh

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        • Altimus
          Chelsea, Assemble!
          • Nov 2004
          • 27283

          #274
          Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
          Trevor Ariza......wow man lol.
          Having a great game... I like how Kobe just stood out by the arc with his hand in the air the whole time. lol

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          • Fiasco West
            MVP
            • Oct 2008
            • 2820

            #275
            Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

            Yep...Ariza gonna get paid...

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            • Bornindamecca
              Books Nelson Simnation
              • Jul 2007
              • 10919

              #276
              Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

              ZB9, you already agreed that Dirk isn't as good as the players I mentioned. Case closed, man. That's the very definition of elite. I said he was very good, but not elite, and without admitting it, you've already agreed.
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              • Altimus
                Chelsea, Assemble!
                • Nov 2004
                • 27283

                #277
                Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                Mavs starting to fall apart now and Lakers playing excellent defense.

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                • ZB9
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 18387

                  #278
                  Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Bornindamecca
                  ZB9, you already agreed that Dirk isn't as good as the players I mentioned. Case closed, man. That's the very definition of elite. I said he was very good, but not elite, and without admitting it, you've already agreed.
                  the only thing established is that you dont know what elite means

                  A player that is currently a top 10 player in the league is "elite"...and HOF players are elite

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                  • Bornindamecca
                    Books Nelson Simnation
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 10919

                    #279
                    Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                    So Jason Kidd is an elite point guard this year? Shaq is an elite player? Nash is an elite PG this year?



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                    • Altimus
                      Chelsea, Assemble!
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 27283

                      #280
                      Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                      Guys, lets drop the "Elite" discussion. :wink:

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #281
                        Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                        This boy Kob

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                        • Altimus
                          Chelsea, Assemble!
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 27283

                          #282
                          Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                          This boy Kob
                          Doing what he does best... Mavs got selfish there with that three. Should have hit the open guy for the easy lay up.

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #283
                            Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                            Odummmmb I still love you though

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                            • Altimus
                              Chelsea, Assemble!
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 27283

                              #284
                              Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                              Odom must have gotten confused there.

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                              • ex carrabba fan
                                I'll thank him for you
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 32744

                                #285
                                Re: 3/9 to 3/15 NBA Discussion Thread

                                Kob makin sure he's the team high scorer

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