Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #1

    Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

    By "Complete" I mean like having it ALL:

    *Scoring
    *Defense
    *Clutchness
    *Leadership

    (The ones with an * are just examples that I was using since those were the only ones I could think off the top of my head)

    Basically, I guess what I'm trying to get at is has there EVER been a "10/10" or "5/5" Player in the League since Jordan left the game or is the "Complete Player" title just a myth like the "Shut Down Corner" title is in the NFL?

    And no, you can't count 9.5/10 or 4.5/5 as being Complete because...well it wouldn't be complete lol.
    #RespectTheCulture
  • o_capone
    Banned
    • Apr 2009
    • 1270

    #2
    Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

    lebron james is more complete than MJ... ***oh my God did he really just say that? yes he did!!!***

    (puts on flameproof suit)

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    • HMcCoy
      All Star
      • Jan 2003
      • 8212

      #3
      Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

      Of course not, and there never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever wiil be.

      Ever.

      Can we lock this now?
      Hank's Custom Collectibles 3D printer/painter extraordinaire

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      • TheMatrix31
        RF
        • Jul 2002
        • 52908

        #4
        Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

        Of course there have been, just no one as good.

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        • o_capone
          Banned
          • Apr 2009
          • 1270

          #5
          Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

          Originally posted by HMcCoy
          Of course not, and there never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever wiil be.

          Ever.

          Can we lock this now?
          i dont know man... lebron is a better rebounder and a better passer...

          people can also make an arguement that oscar robertson was a more complete player than michael jordan... hey even scottie pippen could possibly be a more complete player than michael jordan he honestly did it all... he has done something jordan has never done and that is lead the bulls in every single major statistical category during the 94-95 season...

          so when u say there never will be it's based on name i think...



          How did that work for Portland in 2000?
          Last edited by 23; 04-14-2009, 01:12 AM.

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          • Tmacattack
            Pro
            • Feb 2003
            • 872

            #6
            Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

            Originally posted by o_capone
            i dont know man... lebron is a better rebounder and a better passer...

            people can also make an arguement that oscar robertson was a more complete player than michael jordan... hey even scottie pippen could possibly be a more complete player than michael jordan he honestly did it all...

            so when u say there never will be it's based on name i think...
            LeBron needs a) CONSISTENT Jumpshot
            b) Low post game
            to be considered complete (in terms of skills)

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            • o_capone
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 1270

              #7
              Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

              Originally posted by Tmacattack
              LeBron needs a) CONSISTENT Jumpshot
              b) Low post game
              to be considered complete (in terms of skills)
              his j will get better...

              he is complete in terms of scoring, defense, passing, rebounding, leadership...

              of course everyone to ever be born will never be perfect at anything... there is always room for improvement... michael jordan couldn't shoot the 3 very well at all, but he didn't need to hit 3s in order to be the best....

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              • ProfessaPackMan
                Bamma
                • Mar 2008
                • 63852

                #8
                Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                Alright so lemme add another question to it: Who has been(not who WILL be) the closest then?

                Like from the time MJ left, who was the closest to 10/10?

                Man, where T-Magic or Stumbleweed to help me come up with a formula for this when you need them lol.
                #RespectTheCulture

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                • o_capone
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1270

                  #9
                  Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  Alright so lemme add another question to it: Who has been(not who WILL be) the closest then?

                  Like from the time MJ left, who was the closest to 10/10?

                  Man, where T-Magic or Stumbleweed to help me come up with a formula for this when you need them lol.
                  kobe has been close, if only he could lift up his team mates a little more...

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                  • TheMatrix31
                    RF
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 52908

                    #10
                    Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                    Kobe, LeBron, Garnett, Odom, just to name a few.

                    All four can pass, shoot, rebound, have speed, play defense, have size, are versatile, are athletic, etc.

                    BTW - I'm looking at this at a pure overall talent level, because I think that's the question being asked.

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                    • WazzuRC
                      Go Cougs!
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 5617

                      #11
                      Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                      I'd say Timmy D.

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                      • o_capone
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1270

                        #12
                        Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                        Originally posted by WazzuRC
                        I'd say Timmy D.
                        i see you from yakima... how bout some love for the glove?

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                        • BiggD
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2487

                          #13
                          Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                          Lebron...You only gotta watch highlights of him playing at boths ends the realise how complete he is this year.And only getting better
                          My All-time Favourite players is order:
                          1.Larry Johnson
                          2.Kevin Garnett
                          3.Blake Griffin
                          4.Ben Wallace
                          5.Shawn Kemp

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                          • ZB9
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 18387

                            #14
                            Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                            By "Complete" I mean like having it ALL:

                            *Scoring
                            *Defense
                            *Clutchness
                            *Leadership
                            Kobe has had 3 out of 4 imo (although you might be able to say 4/4 because his leadership has been underrated)

                            He has probably been the closest to MJ imo

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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #15
                              Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                              Big D, I wouldn't say he's complete but he does look to be getting there though.
                              #RespectTheCulture

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