Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

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  • OSUFan_88
    Outback Jesus
    • Jul 2004
    • 25642

    #91
    Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

    Originally posted by Africa Jr
    Ok What about D-Wade he is the Heat the cavs got Mo ( I kno they didn't have him last year but still) when the heat didn't have Wade last year they were terrible an Wade has defense he has like a 100+ steals and 100+ blocks he is RAW! everyone always thinks Oh Lebron Is The BEST! but he hasn't even won a championship!? I mean lebron is hella good but D-wade is D-wade!
    Because LeBron is a better player than D-Wade.

    Give LeBron that team that D-Wade won on and he would have won a title too.
    Too Old To Game Club

    Urban Meyer is lol.

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    • yvesdereuter
      Banned
      • Jun 2007
      • 1688

      #92
      Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

      Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
      Nostalgia rules.

      Jordan is the best player I've seen in my lifetime, but you need to stop acting like great players won't follow him.

      I dont think he actually said great players wont follow him.

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      • Chip Douglass
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2005
        • 12256

        #93
        Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

        Originally posted by yvesdereuter
        I dont think he actually said great players wont follow him.
        No, but he thinks Jordan is going to remain on a heavenly pedestal above and beyond everyone else forever.

        Whatever, it's cyclical. I'm pretty sure fans in the '60s/'70s/'80s thought that no one would ever surpass Wilt/West/Magic/Bird. Jordan is always going to be revered by the age 25-40 generation, but once younger fans embrace some of the new stars of this generation, he'll be remembered only on game film.

        I probably just committed ultimate blasphemy against Saint Jordan, so I'll exit from the thread.
        I write things on the Internet.

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        • yvesdereuter
          Banned
          • Jun 2007
          • 1688

          #94
          Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

          Originally posted by Olson-for-Heisman
          No, but he thinks Jordan is going to remain on a heavenly pedestal above and beyond everyone else forever.

          Whatever, it's cyclical. I'm pretty sure fans in the '60s/'70s/'80s thought that no one would ever surpass Wilt/West/Magic/Bird. Jordan is always going to be revered by the age 25-40 generation, but once younger fans embrace some of the new stars of this generation, he'll be remembered only on game film.

          I probably just committed ultimate blasphemy against Saint Jordan, so I'll exit from the thread.

          Not really. A lot of the old timers who grew up in the eras that preceded Jordan have agreed that he was the best ever. And its not like people who grew up in the 70s or 80s go around saying Jim Rice, Reggie Jackson, etc. were as good as Babe Ruth.

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          • stateprop
            Banned
            • Jun 2006
            • 1307

            #95
            Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

            Originally posted by J0nnD0ugh
            Jordan as a "shutdown" defender is overrated. Pippen always took the best offensive player, Rodman the 2nd, Harper the 3rd. Jordan was guarding the 4th best player each night.

            I'd say Duncan was more "complete" than Jordan, as sacriligeous as that sounds.
            Actually Jordan was a shutdown defender eariler in his career, but when he got pippen, rodman, harper, he didnt have to guard the best player anymore.

            Here is my list in order
            Kobe, Wade, Lebron. Kobe and Wade are better clutch shooter than lebron. I mean according to Espn this season Lebron hits his first buzzer beater. I would like to see melo up there but he lack defense even though its getting better, and leadership. And melo is a better clutch shooter than lebron.

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            • stateprop
              Banned
              • Jun 2006
              • 1307

              #96
              Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

              Originally posted by OSUFan_88
              Because LeBron is a better player than D-Wade.

              Give LeBron that team that D-Wade won on and he would have won a title too.

              wow really are you serious, ok buddy. So if lebron and wade switch place you say the heat will be more dangerous than the Cavs.
              Do you understand that wade and lebron stats are not far off from each other on the def stats Blocks, Steals, and the off stats points, assisit. The only thing that seperate them is rebounds. To make this more interesting Wade has more blocks and steals than lebron and yet im havent heard nobody mention him for the Defensive player of the year award.
              Last edited by stateprop; 04-18-2009, 11:58 PM.

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              • ZB9
                Hall Of Fame
                • Nov 2004
                • 18387

                #97
                Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                future GOAT

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                • Muzyk23
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 4192

                  #98
                  Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                  Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                  Because LeBron is a better player than D-Wade.

                  Give LeBron that team that D-Wade won on and he would have won a title too.
                  when I see statements like that I wish Cavs don't get to the Finals
                  NBA

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                  • DC
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 17996

                    #99
                    Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                    Originally posted by Africa Jr
                    Ok What about D-Wade he is the Heat the cavs got Mo ( I kno they didn't have him last year but still) when the heat didn't have Wade last year they were terrible an Wade has defense he has like a 100+ steals and 100+ blocks he is RAW! everyone always thinks Oh Lebron Is The BEST! but he hasn't even won a championship!? I mean lebron is hella good but D-wade is D-wade! lol but no one can replace MJ for how do you think the NBA got lebron, kobe, dwade, melo, cp3, etc. All because of MJ he is basketball
                    Originally posted by Africa Jr
                    MJ made basketball an MJ is basketball! but what would happen if Kevin Durrant went to a better team do you think he can be the next champ!?

                    @ Comments and Screename
                    Concrete evidence/videos please

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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #100
                      Re: Since MJ Left, Has There Really Been A COMPLETE Player In The League?

                      LMAO
                      #RespectTheCulture

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