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  • yvesdereuter
    Banned
    • Jun 2007
    • 1688

    #346
    Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

    Originally posted by o_capone
    all conspiracy theorist read this:


    it's titled "Finals Conspiracy Theories Prove To Be As Durable As Tin Foil"
    Yeah, well that article doesnt explain what happened last night.

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    • TheMatrix31
      RF
      • Jul 2002
      • 52928

      #347
      Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

      No, but making like six shots in the fourth quarter does.

      The officiating didn't help, but let's stop acting like the Nuggets lost DIRECTLY due to reffing.

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      • yvesdereuter
        Banned
        • Jun 2007
        • 1688

        #348
        Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

        Originally posted by TheMatrix31
        No, but making like six shots in the fourth quarter does.

        The officiating didn't help, but let's stop acting like the Nuggets lost DIRECTLY due to reffing.
        Lets not pretend the officiating doesnt affect shot selection. I agree they didnt handle the adversity well but saying they deserved to lose because of that is like saying someone deserved to be killed in a car accident because they got in a car accident even though they werent at fault.

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        • TMagic
          G.O.A.T.
          • Apr 2007
          • 7550

          #349
          Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

          People keep saying "Stern wants this..." and "Must be Stern..." and "Stern has his hand in this..."

          Does anybody have any strong, solid evidence of Stern doing the things that people are blaming him for?

          Or has it all been something that started with a few, and people started running with it?

          I have yet to see any of the former.

          And don't give me that "Well look at this game..." excuse.


          IMO, if you are looking for something wrong, you're going to find it.

          Like, if you don't want to be with a girl, you're going to find every little thing that she does to be annoying and another reason why you shouldn't be with her.

          Same may be happening here. People looking for every little thing to show that the game is fixed, and that Stern is doing this and that.
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          • TheMatrix31
            RF
            • Jul 2002
            • 52928

            #350
            Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

            I'm pretty sure Donaghy said in his testimony that the league favored pushing for a Game 7 in an unnamed series, or something like that.

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            • wco81
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 3305

              #351
              Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

              Either in Dave Dameshek's podcast or one of Bill Simmons columns, they talked about "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" by the officials to make calls in the last minutes of games.

              Neither will refer to a conspiracy but they noted how bad the officiating has been. One suggested someone put up a site tracking the calls by certain officials and what they do in specific playoff games. Or put up Youtube clips, a "greatest hit" collection of bad or questionable calls.

              At a minimum, we're talking about massive incompetence. But we know it goes more than that when it's widely accepted that some players get favorable calls while unknowns or rookies "pay their dues."

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              • Brankles
                Banned
                • May 2003
                • 5113

                #352
                Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

                Originally posted by TMagic
                People keep saying "Stern wants this..." and "Must be Stern..." and "Stern has his hand in this..."

                Does anybody have any strong, solid evidence of Stern doing the things that people are blaming him for?

                Or has it all been something that started with a few, and people started running with it?

                I have yet to see any of the former.

                And don't give me that "Well look at this game..." excuse.


                IMO, if you are looking for something wrong, you're going to find it.

                Like, if you don't want to be with a girl, you're going to find every little thing that she does to be annoying and another reason why you shouldn't be with her.

                Same may be happening here. People looking for every little thing to show that the game is fixed, and that Stern is doing this and that.
                Well, in this case, the girl is David Stern and the problem with the girl is that she is a groupie that only chases star athletes. And you, the average guy, (Denver/Orlando) can't understand why she wants to sleep with these douchebags (Los Angeles Kobe/CleBron) so badly, when you're really doing your best and may actually be better than these guys. But instead of just dreaming of being with them, she calls her closest friends (NBA officials, the media, sponsors) and tries to bring them together in one place alone with her, so at the end of the night, she can take one of them home, whichever is the biggest star. She will continue to do this until one of the stars gets too old, then she will replace him with a better, younger star who can get them more money. Along the way she will tease other guys, but ultimately choose her favorite should they meet.

                So in essence, David Stern is a gold digging ho. That's how I see it.

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #353
                  Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

                  Didnt JVG say an official told hm that they'd start officiating Yao differently in the playoffs and they did?

                  Didnt a ref get busted and exposed some games that we all had strong suspicions of in the first place.... Its not like the L knew nothing about this

                  How about the blatant star treatment? Karl Malone saying in his own words that they let him get away with some things

                  I think if anyone can sit there and tell the basketball fan nation that everything is alright is what I would question.

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                  • ipitythafool25
                    C*n*n FTW
                    • Dec 2002
                    • 771

                    #354
                    Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

                    Is this actually true?

                    LeBron set to Break 10 NBA Free Throw Playoff Records in 1 Season

                    LeBron James, may just be the Wilt Chamberlain of free throws.

                    James, who has already broken three NBA Playoff Free Throw Records this season, is on pace to break at least seven more, for a possible total of ten Free Throw Records – something that has never been seen since the inception of free throws in 1947 - records that took years for Dwyane Wade (2006), Shaquille O’Neal (2000), and Michael Jordan (1989) to accumulate individually, LeBron James is set to break all by himself in one single post-season - these 2009 Playoffs.

                    * James’ 16.6 FTA against the Magic is currently the record for most Free Throws Attempted against an individual series, out-pacing Dwayne Wade’s infamous record of 16.2 FTA against the Dallas Mavericks in the 2006 Finals.

                    * James’ 14.5 FTA is currently the Record for most Free Throws Attempted in the post-season, out-pacing Michael Jordan at 13.5 FTA.

                    * James’ 11.2 FTA Career per game is currently an NBA Playoff Record tied with Shaquille O’Neal.

                    * James’ 188 Total FTA in 13 games played is the most FTA ever attempted in a 13 game stretch. To gauge the sheer concept of this record – Kobe Bryant last year attempted a league-leading 194 FTA in 21 games. James’ has already accumulated 188 FTA in playing only 13 games – that's 8 games less than Bryant. By the time, LeBron plays his 14th game, he would have already supplanted the previous high of last season's Playoffs by less than 7 games.

                    * James currently is also on pace on breaking records for the fastest player to reach highs of FTA - records currently held by Michael Jordan and Shaquille O’Neal. James, by the way, has already broken two of those records.

                    * James is also the only player to currently have a chance of reaching 300 FTA in the Playoffs, something that has never ever been done in the NBA.


                    Records already broken by James this post-season:

                    * Most Career Playoff FTA Average (11.2 FTA per game - tied with Shaquille O’Neal)

                    * Fastest to 100 FTA (8 games)

                    * Fastest to 150 FTA (11 games)


                    Records James is on pace of breaking this post-season:

                    * Most FTA in the Playoffs - Leader: Shaquille O’Neal (296 FTA in 23 games) – LeBron James this season total and counting (188 FTA in 13 games)

                    * Most FTA against a Playoff series – Leader: Dwyane Wade (16.2 FTA) – LeBron James this season currently (16.6 FTA)

                    * Highest FTA per game in the Playoffs – Leader: Michael Jordan (13.5 FTA) – Lebron James this season currently (14.5 FTA per game)

                    * Fastest to 200 FTA – Leader: Michael Jordan (15 games) – LeBron James this season pace (14 games)

                    * Fastest to 250 FTA – Leader: Shaquille O’Neal (20 games) – LeBron James this season pace (18 games)

                    * Fastest to 300 FTA – Leader: vacant – LeBron James this season pace (21 games)

                    * Only NBA player to reach 300 FTA


                    The one truly remarkable aspect about all this record breaking stat, is that James is set to break all these records in just one post-season.

                    That in itself is a Record.

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                    • J0nnD0ugh
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 16602

                      #355
                      Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

                      Originally posted by ipitythafool25
                      Is this actually true?

                      LeBron set to Break 10 NBA Free Throw Playoff Records in 1 Season..........

                      .......The one truly remarkable aspect about all this record breaking stat, is that James is set to break all these records in just one post-season.

                      That in itself is a Record.

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                      • mizzta21
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 1135

                        #356
                        Re: Do You Honestly Think The NBA "Fixes" Games?

                        imo, i don't think the NBA fixes games but i do think Stern/NBA Officials sway calls to favor a more popular team, or to a team that can give them higher TV ratings. When the NBA players play internationally they get exposed. although international refs aren't as "experienced" as NBA refs, they seem to not give superstar fouls like giving reputation calls, or bail out calls. (how many times have we seen LJames get called for traveling or DWayde get called for palming the bball?) to me, i thought team USA won it all simply because they learned how to play together and play defense instead of simply charging to the basket hoping the refs can bail them out. NBA game is much faster and has more athleticism and the best play in our league but seriously, some of the obvious/blatant/miss calls just kinda question you as to why they would make that call, and it seems to be more apparent in the NBA than any other pro sports league. theres my 2 cents
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