Mailman going to the Mavericks?

**ShaKobe** · 06-02-2003, 11:42 AM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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All teams SA faced on this playoffs reach Game 6. They are the one who face the most dangerous teams of the WEST.
Also SA's game was very different when they face MAVS. They are more intense during LA and SUNS series.
Of course the referee's on the MAVS series did not allow physical contact that much reason why SA can't play there usual game.
MAVS has not yet earned there championship credibility. Because they failed to close POR and SAC in there weakest form and MAVS strongest form in 5. Lineup that won't last 5 games between LA and SA.
And during the MAVS - SA series, MAVS was playing on there desperate games but not enough to bring SA. They are not a championship team until they passed LA or SA with both teams in there strongest form.
That is what it takes to become a championship team. SAC on the other hand SHAKE the defending champions with both teams on there strongest lineup. Which makes them a threat to the 2 SUPER POWERS (LA and SA).
Even if the MAVS will reach playoffs in next season, they still have to take down SAC's strongest lineup. In other words, before MAVS can be called a championship team, they have to beat first SAC, SA then LA.
But next season, PHX and MIN will be waiting for them because MAVS are not the only one to reach 6 between LA and SA.
It's not if you reach the conference finals you are a championship team, it's how did you reach it. And seeing the lineup of the teams that MAVS has face, makes them a no better team than a 2nd rounder.
Cuban knows it and he knows that what MAVS did this season won't bring them back to the WEST finals again without improvement.
At least the referee was kind enough to take out the physical part of the series or else MAVS is done within 5 games.

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You wrote a lot about teams beating the best teams while they are healthy. Well, the Mavs definitely didn't do that this year, but then again, neither has SA. The Mavs caught a Webber-less Kings team, but the Spurs caught a Fox-less and a hurt George Lakers, and a Dirk-less Mavs team.

You can't predict injuries, so a win is a win. Or else, there'll always be an * next to a game.

**LHayes37** · 06-02-2003, 12:22 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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To clarify, Dallas has a $4.5 mid-level exception to offer.

And don't count Dallas out on Jermaine O'Neal. If he'd play a year for that, Cuban will break the bank for him the next year. His history proves that.

O'Neal, it is rumored, isn't enamored about playing a long time in a market like San Antonio. Dallas is already a much higher profile team.

Plus, instead of being Duncan's sidekick, O'Neal can be THE inside game for Dallas. Nowitski will help him on the defensive boards (Dirk finished among the top rebounders in the league), but O'Neal would handle the post-up inside game much like Duncan in San Antonio.

It's possible.

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Can't do that anymore after the whole Joe Smith thing in Minnesota. No more one year deals and a fat contract after that.

**LHayes37** · 06-02-2003, 12:22 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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To clarify, Dallas has a $4.5 mid-level exception to offer.

And don't count Dallas out on Jermaine O'Neal. If he'd play a year for that, Cuban will break the bank for him the next year. His history proves that.

O'Neal, it is rumored, isn't enamored about playing a long time in a market like San Antonio. Dallas is already a much higher profile team.

Plus, instead of being Duncan's sidekick, O'Neal can be THE inside game for Dallas. Nowitski will help him on the defensive boards (Dirk finished among the top rebounders in the league), but O'Neal would handle the post-up inside game much like Duncan in San Antonio.

It's possible.

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Can't do that anymore after the whole Joe Smith thing in Minnesota. No more one year deals and a fat contract after that.

**ShaKobe** · 06-02-2003, 12:34 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

Ya, you need to play for one team for 3 years to get your Larry Bird rights and then be paid the max.

**ShaKobe** · 06-02-2003, 12:34 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

Ya, you need to play for one team for 3 years to get your Larry Bird rights and then be paid the max.

**LHayes37** · 06-02-2003, 01:31 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

And there aint no way Jermaine will play for 4.5 million a year. He's got his posse to think about man.

**LHayes37** · 06-02-2003, 01:31 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

And there aint no way Jermaine will play for 4.5 million a year. He's got his posse to think about man.

**Sarah** · 06-02-2003, 02:09 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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All teams SA faced on this playoffs reach Game 6. They are the one who face the most dangerous teams of the WEST.
Also SA's game was very different when they face MAVS. They are more intense during LA and SUNS series.
Of course the referee's on the MAVS series did not allow physical contact that much reason why SA can't play there usual game.
MAVS has not yet earned there championship credibility. Because they failed to close POR and SAC in there weakest form and MAVS strongest form in 5. Lineup that won't last 5 games between LA and SA.
And during the MAVS - SA series, MAVS was playing on there desperate games but not enough to bring SA. They are not a championship team until they passed LA or SA with both teams in there strongest form.
That is what it takes to become a championship team. SAC on the other hand SHAKE the defending champions with both teams on there strongest lineup. Which makes them a threat to the 2 SUPER POWERS (LA and SA).
Even if the MAVS will reach playoffs in next season, they still have to take down SAC's strongest lineup. In other words, before MAVS can be called a championship team, they have to beat first SAC, SA then LA.
But next season, PHX and MIN will be waiting for them because MAVS are not the only one to reach 6 between LA and SA.
It's not if you reach the conference finals you are a championship team, it's how did you reach it. And seeing the lineup of the teams that MAVS has face, makes them a no better team than a 2nd rounder.
Cuban knows it and he knows that what MAVS did this season won't bring them back to the WEST finals again without improvement.
At least the referee was kind enough to take out the physical part of the series or else MAVS is done within 5 games.

<hr /></blockquote>

You wrote a lot about teams beating the best teams while they are healthy. Well, the Mavs definitely didn't do that this year, but then again, neither has SA. The Mavs caught a Webber-less Kings team, but the Spurs caught a Fox-less and a hurt George Lakers, and a Dirk-less Mavs team.

You can't predict injuries, so a win is a win. Or else, there'll always be an * next to a game.

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That is why I pick Lakers as the last team for MAVS to play because LA is the measuring stick if you are worth to be a champion. SA already prove they can face LA any given niight. Although they fail in the last 3 seasons but make no mistake SA is the team LA doesn't want to face in an elimination round. SAC is the 3rd because because if they can shake LA, they can also take SA any given night.

And MAVS on the other hand failed to shake SAC even if SAC lost. Why, because they just realize that even in there weakest form they have what it takes to be a WESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDER. But not finals. What do you think in there strongest form. Yes, they have what it takes to give SA a 7 game series in a CLASSIC matchup. Where every win SA gets are EARNED from physical DEFENSE to physical OFFENSE. And they can be consistent on there gameplay whether mental or physical.

And yes, SAC can challenge SA whether inside or outside. Whether physical or not.

And yes, SA has defeated LA already back in 1999. Which gives them the credibility to be called a championship team. Because they pass LA. No one bitch the LA SA series because all people know that even if LA is healthy SA has what it takes to take them down. Not necessarily win. Add to the situation, SA is playing with there veterans sorrounded by rookies. While LA's veterans was sorrounded by rookies or bench players. In the end it was the depth of SA rosters that win the series. And it was LA's team leaders fault why they loss. They have failed to make other players of there team to become better.
Duncan on the other hand manage to build confidence to his teamates by sacrificing his stats.
Get the idea?

Oh did I mention that even with Dirk on the team, he won't matter? Why because SA will overwhelmed them defensively. Didn't you see the 3 staright losses they just recieved with Dirk on the lineup?

That's 3 straight. And it was not a fluke nor a coincidence. And that's only in the playoffs. IN THE PLAYOFFS. You can't allow a team to kick you around 3 straight games in the PLAYOFFS man!!
And they are on there strongest lineup.
And DON"T even talk about Dirk getting fouled in game 2. Rose gameplan on that game was not to score but to force contact with Dirk for a foul. And maybe you still wonder why SA is called a great defensive team.

I'll drink.

**Sarah** · 06-02-2003, 02:09 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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All teams SA faced on this playoffs reach Game 6. They are the one who face the most dangerous teams of the WEST.
Also SA's game was very different when they face MAVS. They are more intense during LA and SUNS series.
Of course the referee's on the MAVS series did not allow physical contact that much reason why SA can't play there usual game.
MAVS has not yet earned there championship credibility. Because they failed to close POR and SAC in there weakest form and MAVS strongest form in 5. Lineup that won't last 5 games between LA and SA.
And during the MAVS - SA series, MAVS was playing on there desperate games but not enough to bring SA. They are not a championship team until they passed LA or SA with both teams in there strongest form.
That is what it takes to become a championship team. SAC on the other hand SHAKE the defending champions with both teams on there strongest lineup. Which makes them a threat to the 2 SUPER POWERS (LA and SA).
Even if the MAVS will reach playoffs in next season, they still have to take down SAC's strongest lineup. In other words, before MAVS can be called a championship team, they have to beat first SAC, SA then LA.
But next season, PHX and MIN will be waiting for them because MAVS are not the only one to reach 6 between LA and SA.
It's not if you reach the conference finals you are a championship team, it's how did you reach it. And seeing the lineup of the teams that MAVS has face, makes them a no better team than a 2nd rounder.
Cuban knows it and he knows that what MAVS did this season won't bring them back to the WEST finals again without improvement.
At least the referee was kind enough to take out the physical part of the series or else MAVS is done within 5 games.

<hr /></blockquote>

You wrote a lot about teams beating the best teams while they are healthy. Well, the Mavs definitely didn't do that this year, but then again, neither has SA. The Mavs caught a Webber-less Kings team, but the Spurs caught a Fox-less and a hurt George Lakers, and a Dirk-less Mavs team.

You can't predict injuries, so a win is a win. Or else, there'll always be an * next to a game.

<hr /></blockquote>

That is why I pick Lakers as the last team for MAVS to play because LA is the measuring stick if you are worth to be a champion. SA already prove they can face LA any given niight. Although they fail in the last 3 seasons but make no mistake SA is the team LA doesn't want to face in an elimination round. SAC is the 3rd because because if they can shake LA, they can also take SA any given night.

And MAVS on the other hand failed to shake SAC even if SAC lost. Why, because they just realize that even in there weakest form they have what it takes to be a WESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDER. But not finals. What do you think in there strongest form. Yes, they have what it takes to give SA a 7 game series in a CLASSIC matchup. Where every win SA gets are EARNED from physical DEFENSE to physical OFFENSE. And they can be consistent on there gameplay whether mental or physical.

And yes, SAC can challenge SA whether inside or outside. Whether physical or not.

And yes, SA has defeated LA already back in 1999. Which gives them the credibility to be called a championship team. Because they pass LA. No one bitch the LA SA series because all people know that even if LA is healthy SA has what it takes to take them down. Not necessarily win. Add to the situation, SA is playing with there veterans sorrounded by rookies. While LA's veterans was sorrounded by rookies or bench players. In the end it was the depth of SA rosters that win the series. And it was LA's team leaders fault why they loss. They have failed to make other players of there team to become better.
Duncan on the other hand manage to build confidence to his teamates by sacrificing his stats.
Get the idea?

Oh did I mention that even with Dirk on the team, he won't matter? Why because SA will overwhelmed them defensively. Didn't you see the 3 staright losses they just recieved with Dirk on the lineup?

That's 3 straight. And it was not a fluke nor a coincidence. And that's only in the playoffs. IN THE PLAYOFFS. You can't allow a team to kick you around 3 straight games in the PLAYOFFS man!!
And they are on there strongest lineup.
And DON"T even talk about Dirk getting fouled in game 2. Rose gameplan on that game was not to score but to force contact with Dirk for a foul. And maybe you still wonder why SA is called a great defensive team.

I'll drink.

**ShaKobe** · 06-02-2003, 02:17 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

I never doubted what you were saying. I was just pointing out that every team has injuries and has to deal with them in their own way. Sac was supposed to be the deepest team out there, and with just one injury, even tho it was to Webber, they loose to the Mavs.

**ShaKobe** · 06-02-2003, 02:17 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

I never doubted what you were saying. I was just pointing out that every team has injuries and has to deal with them in their own way. Sac was supposed to be the deepest team out there, and with just one injury, even tho it was to Webber, they loose to the Mavs.

**Sarah** · 06-02-2003, 02:37 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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I never doubted what you were saying. I was just pointing out that every team has injuries and has to deal with them in their own way. Sac was supposed to be the deepest team out there, and with just one injury, even tho it was to Webber, they loose to the Mavs.

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It is because when they lost Webber, the threat on the low post whether offense or defense was gone. So MAVS can easily concentrate on the perimeter defense. And SAC's other players like Bibby, Hedu and Peja are perimeter players. And Webber just like Duncan can absurb 3 to 4 MAVS players to defend him which will make Peja, Bibby, B. Jackson and the rest of the role players to have open and wide shots. A luxury SA doesn't have in there lineup. SA doesn'' have a consistet perimeter offense aside from Kerr and Smith.

**Sarah** · 06-02-2003, 02:37 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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I never doubted what you were saying. I was just pointing out that every team has injuries and has to deal with them in their own way. Sac was supposed to be the deepest team out there, and with just one injury, even tho it was to Webber, they loose to the Mavs.

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It is because when they lost Webber, the threat on the low post whether offense or defense was gone. So MAVS can easily concentrate on the perimeter defense. And SAC's other players like Bibby, Hedu and Peja are perimeter players. And Webber just like Duncan can absurb 3 to 4 MAVS players to defend him which will make Peja, Bibby, B. Jackson and the rest of the role players to have open and wide shots. A luxury SA doesn't have in there lineup. SA doesn'' have a consistet perimeter offense aside from Kerr and Smith.

**ShaKobe** · 06-02-2003, 02:43 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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Oh did I mention that even with Dirk on the team, he won't matter? Why because SA will overwhelmed them defensively. Didn't you see the 3 staright losses they just recieved with Dirk on the lineup?

That's 3 straight. And it was not a fluke nor a coincidence. And that's only in the playoffs. IN THE PLAYOFFS. You can't allow a team to kick you around 3 straight games in the PLAYOFFS man!!
And they are on there strongest lineup.
And DON"T even talk about Dirk getting fouled in game 2. Rose gameplan on that game was not to score but to force contact with Dirk for a foul. And maybe you still wonder why SA is called a great defensive team.

I'll drink.

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Actually, they didn't lose 3 straight. They lost game 4, even tho it was pretty close throughout, and the Mavs won game 5. A pretty good win actually. Then they lost it in game 6. And that was a pretty close game too, until the 4th quarter. So, even without Dirk, all 3 of those games were pretty well contested. The Mavs just don't have the presense down-low to do anything.

**ShaKobe** · 06-02-2003, 02:43 PM

Re: Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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Oh did I mention that even with Dirk on the team, he won't matter? Why because SA will overwhelmed them defensively. Didn't you see the 3 staright losses they just recieved with Dirk on the lineup?

That's 3 straight. And it was not a fluke nor a coincidence. And that's only in the playoffs. IN THE PLAYOFFS. You can't allow a team to kick you around 3 straight games in the PLAYOFFS man!!
And they are on there strongest lineup.
And DON"T even talk about Dirk getting fouled in game 2. Rose gameplan on that game was not to score but to force contact with Dirk for a foul. And maybe you still wonder why SA is called a great defensive team.

I'll drink.

<hr /></blockquote>

Actually, they didn't lose 3 straight. They lost game 4, even tho it was pretty close throughout, and the Mavs won game 5. A pretty good win actually. Then they lost it in game 6. And that was a pretty close game too, until the 4th quarter. So, even without Dirk, all 3 of those games were pretty well contested. The Mavs just don't have the presense down-low to do anything.

Mailman going to the Mavericks?

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