Durant as good--or better?!?!--than...

[Scott812313]

Re: Durant as good--or better?!?!--than...

http://www.82games.com/0910/09CLE11.HTM

Shot Att.
Jump 64%
Close 31%
Dunk 4% <TABLE cellSpacing=1 width=290 bgColor=#cccccc border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#e5e5e5><TD width=50 bgColor=#33cc33><CENTER>Shot</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>Att.</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>eFG%</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>Ast'd</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>Blk'd</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>Pts</CENTER></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD><CENTER>Jump</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>64% </TD><TD align=right>.436 </TD><TD align=right>24% </TD><TD align=right>1% </TD><TD align=right>11.3 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD><CENTER>Close</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>27% </TD><TD align=right>.679 </TD><TD align=right>39% </TD><TD align=right>7% </TD><TD align=right>7.5 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD><CENTER>Dunk</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>8% </TD><TD align=right>.959 </TD><TD align=right>69% </TD><TD align=right>0% </TD><TD align=right>3.1 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD><CENTER>Tips</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>0% </TD><TD align=right>.500 </TD><TD align=right>0% </TD><TD align=right>50% </TD><TD align=right>0.1 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#f0f0df><TD><CENTER>Inside</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>36% </TD><TD align=right>.740 </TD><TD align=right>48% </TD><TD align=right>6% </TD><TD align=right>10.6</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Tips 2%
Inside 36%

Don't let that silly "reality" thing get in the way.

Indeed. Let's speak totally factual. That's not his fg% either, that's effective fg% which weighs 3's more heavily and that number is still horrendous.

Shot selection <TABLE cellSpacing=1 width=290 bgColor=#cccccc border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#e5e5e5><TD width=50 bgColor=#33cc33><CENTER>Shot</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>Att.</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>eFG%</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>Ast'd</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>Blk'd</CENTER></TD><TD width=48><CENTER>Pts</CENTER></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD><CENTER>Jump</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>79% </TD><TD align=right>.461 </TD><TD align=right>37% </TD><TD align=right>2% </TD><TD align=right>15.2 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD><CENTER>Close</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>17% </TD><TD align=right>.599 </TD><TD align=right>32% </TD><TD align=right>10% </TD><TD align=right>4.3 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD><CENTER>Dunk</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>4% </TD><TD align=right>.952 </TD><TD align=right>51% </TD><TD align=right>2% </TD><TD align=right>1.4 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD><CENTER>Tips</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>0% </TD><TD align=right>.000 </TD><TD align=right>0% </TD><TD align=right>0% </TD><TD align=right>0.0 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#f0f0df><TD><CENTER>Inside</CENTER></TD><TD align=right>21% </TD><TD align=right>.655 </TD><TD align=right>37% </TD><TD align=right>9% </TD><TD align=right>5.8 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

These are Kobe's numbers. Oh by the way, he's played half a season with a broken finger on his shooting hand and still shot much better. So, yeah, nice try. Let him learn to do anything effectively besides bullrush the lane before you flap off. Almost forgot, thanks for proving my point with stats.

[HMcCoy]

Re: Durant as good--or better?!?!--than...

Indeed. Let's speak totally factual. That's not his fg% either, that's effective fg% which weighs 3's more heavily and that number is still horrendous.


These are Kobe's numbers. Oh by the way, he's played half a season with a broken finger on his shooting hand and still shot much better. So, yeah, nice try. Let him learn to do anything effectively besides bullrush the lane before you flap off. Almost forgot, thanks for proving my point with stats.

Newsflash, Kobe is a better jumpshooter than LeBron. GTFO, really?

You said all LeBron does is run people over at the rack, in reality most of his offense...which was at >50% fg overall...is from the perimeter. Most people criticize Bron for not getting MORE physical buckets around the rim on the blocks. He'll REALLy suck then, amrite, lol? Kobe rulez!!!!111!!

You talk in ridiculous hyperbole was my point I guess. Just relax and lets see how LeBrick LeBronze does this post season.

[Scott812313]

Re: Durant as good--or better?!?!--than...

Newsflash, Kobe is a better jumpshooter than LeBron. GTFO, really?

You said all LeBron does is run people over at the rack, in reality most of his offense...which was at >50% fg overall...is from the perimeter. Most people criticize Bron for not getting MORE physical buckets around the rim on the blocks. He'll REALLy suck then, amrite, lol? Kobe rulez!!!!111!!

You talk in ridiculous hyperbole was my point I guess. Just relax and lets see how LeBrick LeBronze does this post season.

How many more than 11 points in the paint per game with another 7.5 at the line do you want? Facts are he can't shoot and he gets away with murder with his drives running into people, but somehow it's always a foul on the defender. Let him accomplish something before we crown him.

[TMagic]

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So how about that Kevin Durant guy?

Didn't look too hot in his first playoff game eh?

[Jasong7777]

Re: Durant as good--or better?!?!--than...

So how about that Kevin Durant guy?

Didn't look too hot in his first playoff game eh?

Yea and I hope it stays that way.

[KG]

Re: Durant as good--or better?!?!--than...

So how about that Kevin Durant guy?

Didn't look too hot in his first playoff game eh?

I didn't really like the way OKC ran plays for him. They played right into Ron Ron's strengths.

[TMagic]

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I didn't really like the way OKC ran plays for him. They played right into Ron Ron's strengths.

I noticed the same thing.

It seemed like they ran basically 4-5 sets to get Durant involved. The Lakers didn't have any trouble defending them and forcing Durant into a contested shot. Most of his catches were from about 18-20 feet out.

I expect, or at least hope, that Brooks will pick up on that and find better ways to get Durant easy looks.

[HMcCoy]

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I noticed the same thing.

It seemed like they ran basically 4-5 sets to get Durant involved. The Lakers didn't have any trouble defending them and forcing Durant into a contested shot. Most of his catches were from about 18-20 feet out.

I expect, or at least hope, that Brooks will pick up on that and find better ways to get Durant easy looks.

Durant is obviously their better player, but with Ron Ron pushing him around, they need to focus on the better matchup. Westbrook was unstoppable in early offense. They should have went to that high screen and roll until the wheels fell off. At least make Kobe guard him, instead of being able to freelance off Thabo.

Still, OK was right there til the end...

[TMagic]

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Yea and I hope it stays that way.

Doubt it. I don't even remember him getting a FG outside of the first quarter. I just can't see that happening again.



EDIT: Just looked. He had that dunk at the end of the game and a shot here and there. He just didn't have much of an impact in the game really.

[TMagic]

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Durant is obviously their better player, but with Ron Ron pushing him around, they need to focus on the better matchup. Westbrook was unstoppable in early offense. They should have went to that high screen and roll until the wheels fell off. At least make Kobe guard him, instead of being able to freelance off Thabo.

Still, OK was right there til the end...

I'm right with you Mac. I said the same thing during the game in the West Playoffs Thread.

I just didn't understand why they went away from Westbrook. They had no answer for him when he was aggressive and was attacking the rim.

But to win this series, they are going to have to get Durant going and to do that, they are going to have to get him easier looks than what he had yesterday. They don't stand a chance against LA if he plays like he just did.

But OKC should definitely make full use of Westbrook. They obviously have a HUGE advantage there. Keep him involved as much as possible.

[KG]

Re: Durant as good--or better?!?!--than...

Durant is obviously their better player, but with Ron Ron pushing him around, they need to focus on the better matchup. Westbrook was unstoppable in early offense. They should have went to that high screen and roll until the wheels fell off. At least make Kobe guard him, instead of being able to freelance off Thabo.

Still, OK was right there til the end...

Fish actually played him decent in the beginning but just when I said something to my boy Westrbook went off, lol.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Use the real thread!

[jeebs9]

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Every year it is at least 3 players of deserve MVP.

This is the first year I don't expect any but LeBron to get all the first place votes. I don't see anyone in the first place votes...maybe Kobe...but thats a huge MAYBE...I'll be surprised if anyone gets a first pace vote.

[Jasong7777]

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I think Durant will get some first place votes. Matter of fact, I can almost guarantee it.

[ex carrabba fan]

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This is the first year I don't expect any but LeBron to get all the first place votes. I don't see anyone in the first place votes...maybe Kobe...but thats a huge MAYBE...I'll be surprised if anyone gets a first pace vote.

Kobe? WTH.

If anyone deserves a few votes it should be Durant, Howard, and then Wade.

In the next tier is Kobe

Just below I would vote Dirk/Melo