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  • o_capone
    Banned
    • Apr 2009
    • 1270

    #106
    Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

    Originally posted by DC
    Jennings is an unbelievale talent. Posseses great quickness and has really seemed to improve his on ball defense since we last saw him in HS. Is off to a historic start as a rookie where he has shown that he can shoot with great efficiency.

    Right now he is playing for a team that has no type of winning in their future so I can imagine that he will not be happy unless his teammates can step up and fight with him.

    If one of the most overrated shooters in NBA HIstory (Mike Redd) is constantly shooting your team out of games, I couldn't imagine Jennings keeping this pace up over the course of the season.

    DC
    Hopefully Redd never gets healthy.... The team will keep winning...

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    • Jukeman
      Showtime
      • Aug 2005
      • 10955

      #107
      Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

      If he started his "zone" in the first quarter, he couldve had a whoopin' 72 pts! LoL

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      • o_capone
        Banned
        • Apr 2009
        • 1270

        #108
        Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

        Originally posted by Jukeman
        If he started his "zone" in the first quarter, he couldve had a whoopin' 72 pts! LoL
        or he might have gotten 82

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        • Hassan Darkside
          We Here
          • Sep 2003
          • 7561

          #109
          Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
          Just curious if you read about Jennings' situation in Europe?

          There were a lot of factors that definitely effected how effective he was in the actual games.

          It's not like he got minutes either.
          Yea, I read that stuff. But I don't think he'd be as successful if it wasn't for what went on over in Europe. Especially with how Skiles likes to treat rookies, Jennings minus Europe may have lead to a couple headbutts by now.
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          • PrettyT11
            MVP
            • Jul 2008
            • 3220

            #110
            Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

            Originally posted by o_capone
            I think Nash, Williams, Miller, Kidd, and Paul can without a doubt...

            I understand why his numbers are down this early, but I still don't see him retiring and going down as a great distributing PG, I can see him become a great all-around PG with scoring as his main strength though...
            I hope you not talking about Andre Miller. He has only been over 10 assists a game once in his entire career. He has only been over 8 twice. There is no way he is getting 10 a game now with those guys around him or with any team for that matter.

            Jason has only done it three times and I know for a fact a 36 year old Jason Kidd wouldn't come anywhere close to over 10 a game with these Bulls.

            The only guys that might have a chance is Nash and Paul but I truely believe niether one of them would be able to do it. When you look at the Bulls team (I am a huge Bulls fan by the way) there are no strong finishers on the wing, there is no great outside shooters (Salmons and Kirk are good but are not great), and there is zero post game on the team. Noah and Thomas have zero post game and get thier point on put backs, running the floor, and hustling. When you combine all of that you have a team that will not get you the easy assists or buckets. We win our games by outplaying and out hustling the other team.

            When you look at what Nash, Paul, and Williams have they have guys who can finish on the pick and pop and/or the pick and roll. They also have great shooters who can knock down the open three when the defense is broken down. We don't have that with the Bulls.

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            • o_capone
              Banned
              • Apr 2009
              • 1270

              #111
              Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

              I think you are underestimating the power of a great distributing point guard... they make their team mates better... they make good players look great... make average players look good... make bad players look average... if the bulls had steve nash, chris paul, jason kidd, or deron williams, they would bring out the best in those guys...

              PS, andre miller has averaged over 8 assist more than twice... hell his career average is 7.4, which rose will be lucky to ever have a season of... andre miller has been in situations playing with guys such as iguodala and melo, which lowered his assist numbers due to the ball being in their hands and not his, but he is still an elite distributor... that's the one exception to assist being a key sign of a great distributor, when they are in a situation that does not allow them to pick up a lot of assist...
              Last edited by o_capone; 11-15-2009, 11:04 PM.

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              • PrettyT11
                MVP
                • Jul 2008
                • 3220

                #112
                Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

                Originally posted by o_capone
                I think you are underestimating the power of a great distributing point guard... they make their team mates better... they make good players look great... make average players look good... make bad players look average... if the bulls had steve nash, chris paul, jason kidd, or deron williams, they would bring out the best in those guys...

                PS, andre miller has averaged over 8 assist more than twice... hell his career average is 7.4, which rose will be lucky to ever have a season of...
                No I think you are overestimating the players on this Bulls team. There just isn't anywhere near the level of finishers/shooters that those guys have had or have right now.

                Andre has always had great finishers and shooters around him. So if he has only gone over 10 once and only over eight twice (8.0 is not more than eight so I was still right) how would it be possible for him to go over 10 now with this Bulls team?? He has only been over 7 a game four times in 10 years. Also 7.4 is a long way away from 10 plus. So I just don't see how 10 plus with this Bulls team is possible.

                Steve Nash never saw more than 8.8 before coming to to the Suns. That was the only season he was over 8 before coming to the Suns. Even with Dallas he had far greater players around him. There is nothing on the Bulls roster close to the level of a Finley or Dirk. We could make a huge list of all the finishers and shooters he has had with the Suns that are better than what is on the Bulls roster.

                To say a 36 year old Kidd could come in and do something with a WORSE roster than he has now or with the Nets that he hasn't done in years is just foolish. He is giving you 8 a game now with Dirk, Terry, Marion, and Howard. You mean to tell me that he would increase that by at least 2 a game replacing those guys with the likes of Deng, Salmons, Noah, and Thomas. That just isn't going to happen.

                Now if you would have said those guys would average more assists than Rose right now then I would agree with that no questions asked. But to say that those guys would just come in and give out more than 10 assists a game (something only two of those are doing with thier own team now) on this Bulls team is just wrong and illogical.

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                • o_capone
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 1270

                  #113
                  Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

                  you said no player in the nba could do it... i think the players I named are very capable... I agree that they probably wouldn't end up doing it... but they could if that's what they wanted to do...

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                  • PrettyT11
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 3220

                    #114
                    Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

                    Originally posted by o_capone
                    you said no player in the nba could do it... i think the players I named are very capable... I agree that they probably wouldn't end up doing it... but they could if that's what they wanted to do...
                    That wasn't me who said that lol. I just chimed in after your post listing who you said could do it.

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                    • o_capone
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1270

                      #115
                      Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

                      Originally posted by PrettyT11
                      That wasn't me who said that lol. I just chimed in after your post listing who you said could do it.
                      oh lol... i dont pay much attention to who says what i just respond, my bad

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                      • Po Pimp
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 2249

                        #116
                        Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

                        Originally posted by o_capone
                        you said no player in the nba could do it... i think the players I named are very capable... I agree that they probably wouldn't end up doing it... but they could if that's what they wanted to do...
                        Thanks...all that needs to be said.

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                        • Schism 6
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 360

                          #117
                          Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

                          Originally posted by Cebby
                          I started and, for a large part of the spring, was the Jennings bandwagon.
                          You can't claim that, I've been on his nuts since his freshman year!

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                          • BunnyHardaway
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 15195

                            #118
                            Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

                            Originally posted by Schism 6
                            You can't claim that, I've been on his nuts since his freshman year!
                            TMI

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                            • PrettyT11
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3220

                              #119
                              Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

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                              • o_capone
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 1270

                                #120
                                Re: Brandon Jennings is the Truth

                                Originally posted by Po Pimp
                                Thanks...all that needs to be said.
                                they still wont have the low average of rose... lie to your self if u wish tho...

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