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  • Muzyk23
    MVP
    • Feb 2003
    • 4192

    #1

    T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

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    NBA / Nov 20, 2009 / 3:30 pm
    The Marriage Between Tracy McGrady And The Rockets Just Isn’t Working

    By Gerald Narciso
    Tracy McGrady

    I refuse to be a cliche and quote a certain line Apollo 13 line here, but there are a few issues down in Houston. For awhile now, there has been some tension between Tracy McGrady and Rick Adelman and management, but the emotions are starting to boil over. According to a Yahoo! Sports article, McGrady and Adelman engaged in a heated argument before the Rockets’ game in Minneapolis on Wednesday night.
    Ever since McGrady pissed off the organization last February by publically announcing his intentions to have surgery and shut down his season before he talked to the team, the two sides have been at odds. The communication between T-Mac and Adelman has reportedly been horrible. Now that he is healthy, McGrady has been wanting to make his season debut but the Rockets have stalled his return - citing they want to evaluate his knee first.
    After McGrady surprised his coach, by dressing up in his uniform and going out to warm up on the court before the Wolves game, Adelman brought McGrady back into his office where the two had a closed door meeting. Sources in the article said that things got so heated, people could hear yelling.
    The article also mentions that T-Mac feels like the Rockets don’t want him back on the court. That claim could have some truth to it. The Rockets are off to a decent start and were able to make it to the Western Conference Finals without McGrady. There is speculation that they don’t want him to mess up their chemistry. Also, there are some financial incentives to benching T-Mac. According to the article:
    “Houston can start to collect up to 80 percent of his prorated per-game salary after he’s missed 41 consecutive games. McGrady sat out his 42nd straight game Wednesday in Minnesota, and the league insurance plan would reimburse the Rockets for any additional missed games. For the rest of the season, the insurance policy could cover 80 percent of his per-game salary of $282,946.”
    Tags: Houston Rockets, Rick Adelman, Tracy McGrady
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    Last edited by Muzyk23; 11-20-2009, 05:08 PM.
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  • Fiasco West
    MVP
    • Oct 2008
    • 2820

    #2
    Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

    I think it's come to the point, ESPECIALLY with how the team has been playing recently. That the organization just wants to move on.

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #3
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      Its real simple

      They arent playing him because they want to collect insurance money on him, so they lied to the public to say he wasnt in shape enough and he couldnt finish practices when he was already doing so.

      Its time for them to depart but will be interesting if they give Yao the same treatment

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      • Fiasco West
        MVP
        • Oct 2008
        • 2820

        #4
        Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

        Originally posted by 23
        Its real simple

        They arent playing him because they want to collect insurance money on him, so they lied to the public to say he wasnt in shape enough and he couldnt finish practices when he was already doing so.

        Its time for them to depart but will be interesting if they give Yao the same treatment
        Well he hasn't had his MRI yet...maybe they are trying to protect him? Rockets rushed Tmac and Yao back too many times.

        Maybe with how the team is playing they feel they need to rebuild.

        Also did you go to the practices with Tmac? It's not only some of the Rox management that feels he isn't ready, but I remember a early quote from one of GSW's player that said it was obvious the guy wasn't quite ready to go yet.

        Also the Rockets aren't some cheap franchise that goes outta their way to save money. They bought both Chase and J.Taylor in the draft, and aren't shy about spending money to win games. TMac isn't valuable as trade bait or to the team just sitting on the bench.
        Last edited by Fiasco West; 11-20-2009, 07:49 PM.

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #5
          Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

          They arent protecting him he had an MRI once already with them.

          Its for insurance money

          No I did not practice with him and neither did you, but its known that he has gone through full practices already, stop defending the lies dude. Commentators from other teams including the Mavs have seen him already commented on him and how he looks plus the snippet of video that was put out... All sports organizations lie dude its okay.

          ..and its not about saving money its about collecting insurance on an injured player. He's only days away from them collecting the insurance money on him for being out X amount of games, the MRI is a stall.

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          • Fiasco West
            MVP
            • Oct 2008
            • 2820

            #6
            Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

            Originally posted by 23
            They arent protecting him he had an MRI once already with them.

            Its for insurance money

            No I did not practice with him and neither did you, but its known that he has gone through full practices already, stop defending the lies dude. Commentators from other teams including the Mavs have seen him already commented on him and how he looks plus the snippet of video that was put out... All sports organizations lie dude its okay.

            ..and its not about saving money its about collecting insurance on an injured player. He's only days away from them collecting the insurance money on him for being out X amount of games, the MRI is a stall.


            The only evidence to it being the Rockets just want to collect insurance is that it's there.

            Last year Tmac was rushed back and what happened?

            Adelman makes a good point here, they were in Minny, had no practices...he has a MRI on Monday and gets to practice with the team. Why just throw him out there?
            "There was a difference of opinion," Adelman said. "He wasn’t going to play. I told him that. That was it. I have no idea what they’re talking about. He wants to play. I said ‘you’re not.’ We’re going to wait to next week and then we’re going to discuss it. We haven’t practiced (since Nov. 9). We’re going to just suit him up and throw him out there? No.



            "We haven’t had any arguments. He wants to know what we’re going to do. I don’t have an answer for that. This is an issue for doctors and the people who work with him. In my mind, he hasn’t practiced enough. He’s not ready to play."
            Also it's rare for guys to just return in the middle of a road trip regardless. I think he plays next week.

            Also this has been said a while now, it was Tmac who randomly came out and said the 18th. Coach, or anyone in the organization didn't have that date for him. It has been since then "After Monday..." That was said once Tmac decided that the 18th would be his return date.

            If it drags out past the next week I'd agree with you and admit I was wrong. But I think he plays next week.

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            • 23
              yellow
              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #7
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              Fiasco, its okay dude, the MRI date was set a long time ago for a reason.

              They get back 80% of his 23 million dollar salary if he misses that 41st game. Let's keep perspective, of course they want some of that investment back.

              Its not about rushing him back man, but I digress because they arent going anywhere with or without dude.
              Last edited by 23; 11-21-2009, 01:44 AM.

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              • J.R. Locke
                Banned
                • Nov 2004
                • 4137

                #8
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                There was a year where TMac was possibly the most complete player in the NBA.....

                Now he is a scrub. Or at least not differential to Trevor Ariza.

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #9
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                  Originally posted by J.R. Locke
                  There was a year where TMac was possibly the most complete player in the NBA.....

                  Now he is a scrub. Or at least not differential to Trevor Ariza.
                  Youre talking about a dude with scoliosis and multiple injuries

                  Not just because he got old ore refused to accept a role like some players

                  Be that as it may, if they want to trade him (which I wouldnt because its so much off the books) they need to showcase that he can still play first before anyone will want to do that.

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                  • J.R. Locke
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 4137

                    #10
                    Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

                    Originally posted by 23
                    Youre talking about a dude with scoliosis and multiple injuries

                    Not just because he got old ore refused to accept a role like some players

                    Be that as it may, if they want to trade him (which I wouldnt because its so much off the books) they need to showcase that he can still play first before anyone will want to do that.
                    So? Why is he arguing with his coach?

                    TMac is sleepy. We all know it. Can't change it now!

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                    • The 24th Letter
                      ERA
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 39373

                      #11
                      Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

                      SMH, I cant believe what it has come to with this guy

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #12
                        Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

                        Originally posted by J.R. Locke
                        So? Why is he arguing with his coach?

                        TMac is sleepy. We all know it. Can't change it now!
                        Basically he got suited when they said he cant play so they had a talk lol.

                        He said he wanted to play and he's ready, and has the backup from the team doctors

                        This is the problem with posting one article of many that has been out. This is just the back end of a story.


                        Last edited by 23; 11-21-2009, 02:16 AM.

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                        • Muzyk23
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 4192

                          #13
                          Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

                          Why does he want to come back if he isn't 100 %? hasn't he learned from past experiences?
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                          • Fiasco West
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2820

                            #14
                            Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

                            Originally posted by 23
                            Fiasco, its okay dude, the MRI date was set a long time ago for a reason.

                            They get back 80% of his 23 million dollar salary if he misses that 41st game. Let's keep perspective, of course they want some of that investment back.

                            Its not about rushing him back man, but I digress because they arent going anywhere with or without dude.
                            Well they aren't getting past the first round, it's not really about the talent of the team they just lack too much size. Josh Smith isn't flying to the hoop like that to win the game if they had a true center.

                            But you are right, he's not going to get them past the first round this season. We don't even have a center, that is the main reason why. Hoepfully Tmac comes back, drops some numbers, and we can get a quality player in return.

                            The whole thing is overblown though, Tmac wanted to play and Adelman denied that request. End of story. Tmac makes his return next week.

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                            • sportyguyfl31
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 4745

                              #15
                              Re: T-Mac vs Rockets - fight!

                              Originally posted by J.R. Locke
                              There was a year where TMac was possibly the most complete player in the NBA.....

                              Now he is a scrub. Or at least not differential to Trevor Ariza.

                              Yikes! Thats a tad extreme. Have you seen the slop Trevor "I'm miscast as a go to scorer" Ariza is putting up these days?

                              I can buy 23's theory. Knicks tried to do something similiar with Allan Houston once upon a time.

                              Tmac has an expiring deal right? It doesnt make much sense for The Rockets to trade him, since they will almost certainly be asked to take a garbage contract or 2, back in return..so it makse sense for them to hold on and hold out for as much as possible.

                              On another note. I'm absolutely AMAZED that this never worked out.

                              Im not the biggest Tmac fan in the world. Ive always thought he had a little Kool-Aid in his blood, but I was convinced that he and Yao would at least play in a Western Conference Final or two, at the very worst.

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