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  • Cebby
    Banned
    • Apr 2005
    • 22327

    #61
    Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

    Originally posted by Vince
    We are going by what Bosh says about the city and how much he likes it up here as well as wanting to see improvement from the team...

    Maybe it's false hope, but the people who think he will leave always come up with the same, "Toronto is syberia and cold" bull**** and have absolutely no clue with what goes on with the Toronto Raptors or even Chris Bosh for that matter.
    The fact is that if Chris Bosh resigns with the Raptors he will never play on a championship caliber team.

    With the idiocy of your front office, any free agent space you have is tied up in laughably bad contracts for the next four or five years and the team is stuck in Allen Iverson 76ers mediocrity of never being good enough to compete but never being bad enough to add a much needed piece of the puzzle.

    Despite how much he may "love Toronto" (and even when players hate on organization it's pretty rare that they bash the city), I doubt he wants to be remembered for getting the sixth-eighth seed and losing in the first round every year.

    Oh and I agree with your next post about Hedo, the signing was a good one on paper but the guy is completely mail it in.
    That signing was horrible on paper and I told ya'll all about it over the summer.

    You signed an aging third wheel for 10 million a year until he's 33 or 34. He wasn't worth 10 million a year if he maintained his production from the last two years of Miami, let alone with expected age drop offs.

    You guys remind me of a certain fanbase on the college board where I'm always "hating" or "don't know what I'm talking about", but magically my predictions come true like I'm a genie or something.

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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #62
      Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

      Originally posted by Cebby
      You guys remind me of a certain fanbase on the college board where I'm always "hating" or "don't know what I'm talking about", but magically my predictions come true like I'm a genie or something.
      Well hopefully one day your predictions will stop coming true.
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      • VanCitySportsGuy
        NYG_Meth
        • Feb 2003
        • 9351

        #63
        Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

        A 70 cents on the dollar "trade offer" for Bosh? No Thanks

        I was listening to a podcast and I believe Chad Ford called the Raptors a small market team

        Toronto is one of the biggest/most populated cities in North America.

        I believe Bosh will stay with the Raptors. I know he likes the city and believes in BC.

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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #64
          Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

          Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
          A 70 cents on the dollar "trade offer" for Bosh? No Thanks

          I was listening to a podcast and I believe Chad Ford called the Raptors a small market team

          Toronto is one of the biggest/most populated cities in North America.

          I believe Bosh will stay with the Raptors. I know he likes the city and believes in BC.
          He may be off on the "small market/big market" thing, but the residing point remains that the Raps really have no history with keeping a star or attracting a star.

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          • Cebby
            Banned
            • Apr 2005
            • 22327

            #65
            Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
            He may be off on the "small market/big market" thing, but the residing point remains that the Raps really have no history with keeping a star or attracting a star.
            Exactly

            Markets are relative depending on the sport.

            For example, Washington, D.C. is probably the #1 (at worst #2 behind Dallas) market in professional football, yet had to give the largest rookie deal in history for their baseball draft pick to even sign. LA is unarguably the biggest professional basketball market but doesn't even have a football team.

            In American sports terms, Toronto is a small market basketball team. They're ahead of Milwaukee and Memphis but that could be it.

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            • SPTO
              binging
              • Feb 2003
              • 68046

              #66
              Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
              He may be off on the "small market/big market" thing, but the residing point remains that the Raps really have no history with keeping a star or attracting a star.
              That doesn't make Toronto a small market team just a less desirable place to play (rightly or wrongly) as Toronto is in the top 6 markets in all of North America. It's a matter of perspective and it's true that the Raptors franchise has never been capable of keeping its star players past their initial contract so that's an image that needs to change.

              Cebby your example of the Washington DC market leads into my perception argument. The Redskins are the #2 (I actually place them #3 as NY could spend more but chooses not to) football market because of the prestige and perception of success there meaning more then success in some other markets.

              Any other baseball team that picked Strasbourg would've had to pony up the same money. The reason why it looks particularly bad for the Nationals is because the ownership isn't as rich/willing to spend at all costs and the franchise has ZERO record of achievement.

              You are right though that markets are relative to the sport but a large part of it has to do with the prestige, ownership, management and recent history of said franchises in the market.

              EDIT: LA would be the biggest market in every sport more or less. The only reason why football hasn't worked there is a combination of general apathy by the people and bad ownership. If it was all $ and cents there'd still be a team there. Hell, the Rams who were pretty bad when they left had good attendance numbers it was only because Frontiere was hellbent on going home to St. Louis that led to the Rams leaving.

              The Raiders situation is a whole other kettle of fish.
              Last edited by SPTO; 01-13-2010, 08:36 PM.
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              • Cebby
                Banned
                • Apr 2005
                • 22327

                #67
                Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

                Originally posted by SPTO
                Cebby your example of the Washington DC market leads into my perception argument. The Redskins are the #2 (I actually place them #3 as NY could spend more but chooses not to) football market because of the prestige and perception of success there meaning more then success in some other markets.
                No

                Washington spends the most money on free agents, has multiple primetime games despite being terrible, and led the NFL in attendance by 10,000 people a game every year until this year (where they only finished #2 despite sucking horribly and Dallas opening a new stadium/Colosseum/theme park)

                Any other baseball team that picked Strasbourg would've had to pony up the same money. The reason why it looks particularly bad for the Nationals is because the ownership isn't as rich/willing to spend at all costs and the franchise has ZERO record of achievement.
                It looks bad for the Nationals because DC is a transplant city and most of us locals care far more for the Os than the Nationals (whereas most of the permanent DC/NoVA/MD folk are die hard Redskins fans).

                Hell, now that we have the best hockey player in the world, the Nats are probably the fourth team in the city and once Georgetown decides to be good again (see later this year), they'll jump to fifth.

                You are right though that markets are relative to the sport but a large part of it has to do with the prestige, ownership, management and recent history of said franchises in the market.
                Back on topic, Toronto is pretty much last in all of your categories aside from Milwaukee and the ex-Canadian franchise.

                LA would be the biggest market in every sport more or less.
                They aren't even close to the biggest football wise. I'd argue they aren't top 20. You don't lose the number of teams that they have and be #1.
                Last edited by Cebby; 01-13-2010, 09:15 PM.

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                • BobbyColtrane
                  Just some dude...
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2284

                  #68
                  Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

                  lol vescey. i remember back in the 90s in Seattle he got into a fight in a toy store (lol) when some lady asked her husband, "Is that Peter Vescey?" and he was like "No, besides, Peter Vescey is an idiot"

                  Lakers are better with Bynum - Bosh is too similar to Gasol IMO
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                  • SPTO
                    binging
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 68046

                    #69
                    Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

                    Originally posted by Cebby

                    Back on topic, Toronto is pretty much last in all of your categories aside from Milwaukee and the ex-Canadian franchise.
                    .
                    Eh, I could mention 5 teams AT LEAST that has less prestige, Ownership is in the top tier of the league, (MLSE is a sports empire with a hockey and soccer team, is also in real estate development and own a couple sports specialty networks in this country) I'd say Bryan Colangelo is at WORST a middle of the pack GM and the recent history has been not so great but it's better then some other franchises in the league.

                    We'll just agree to disagree
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                    • Cebby
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 22327

                      #70
                      Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

                      Originally posted by SPTO
                      We'll just agree to disagree
                      Because you appear to be a nice guy, I will begrudgingly "agree to disagree."

                      However, for the rest of your comrades, my points stand.

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #71
                        Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

                        For such a stupid rumor that has no chance of happening, this thread sure is getting alot of attention.
                        #RespectTheCulture

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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #72
                          Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

                          Yep, that's what happens when the thread goes way off topic.

                          As was originally stated, the OS NBA forum is better than this.

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                          • TheMatrix31
                            RF
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 52917

                            #73
                            Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

                            Renamed: The Chris Bosh Saga

                            ...because there's no ****ing way he's coming to the Lakers in a trade.

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                            • ex carrabba fan
                              I'll thank him for you
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 32744

                              #74
                              Re: The Chris Bosh Saga

                              Good move Matrix

                              Much better topic of discussion.

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                              • JVal3208
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 465

                                #75
                                Re: Bosh to the Lakers?

                                Originally posted by TheMatrix31
                                Renamed: The Chris Bosh Saga

                                ...because there's no ****ing way he's coming to the Lakers in a trade.
                                You really did it because you hate the Lakers

                                Just kidding. But yeah, zero possiblity of that trade happening.
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