Dwight Howard

[mvspree8]

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I always wondered what would happen if I could somehow combine Amare's offensive game with Dwight's defense and rebounding.

You'd have the league MVP.

For the next 10 years.

[Jonesy]

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They had an interesting stat during the Miami Orlando game. Dwight Howard has had over 230 turnovers and only 117 assists so far this year. Probably the main reason they don't give him more touches / shots.

[Rawdeal28]

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They had an interesting stat during the Miami Orlando game. Dwight Howard has had over 230 turnovers and only 117 assists so far this year. Probably the main reason they don't give him more touches / shots.

[celg35]

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and i got slack for playing "the what if game" . Here are the facts, Dwight is a very good center, but will he be great?..........i will lean toward no , because he has shown very slow progression this far. I would love to see him develope his left hand. for now, defenses love to give him the right to left move. it is very easy to defend him when he is on the wrong side of the basket.

yes Dwight is strong and can jump, but for all you ballers out there , you know this game is more than that

[youvalss]

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yes Dwight is strong and can jump, but for all you ballers out there , you know this game is more than that

I wouldn't say he's strong. He can hardly back down any centre in the league. Having muscles that look good doesn't necessarily means he's strong as a centre.

[TMagic]

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Dwight scores more than Al Jefferson and Tim Duncan, two players with some of the most refined post moves in the league. This is true even though he is taking about 5 fewer shots than both of them.

Just sayin'.

[Gibbz]

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Dwight scores more than Al Jefferson and Tim Duncan, two players with some of the most refined post moves in the league. This is true even though he is taking about 5 fewer shots than both of them.

Just sayin'.

Good point. Acting like Dwight Howard is some kind of offensive liability is ridiculous.

[P2K]

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Dwight scores more than Al Jefferson and Tim Duncan, two players with some of the most refined post moves in the league. This is true even though he is taking about 5 fewer shots than both of them.

Just sayin'.

Yeah because he gets hacked on way more then Tim and Al Jefferson. Howard averages 5 or more FT attempts than both of them.

So, actually...Timmy's and Jefferson's ppg look better since they are fouled less. Looking over both careers, when Tim averaged over 8 FT attempts, he was a 23-25 ppg guy. Better than Howard.

When Jefferson averaged 5 attempts just last year, he put up 23 ppg. Better than Howard.

Seems to me Duncan and Jefferson are better suited being the #1 option than Dwight Howard.

[TMagic]

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Yeah because he gets hacked on way more then Tim and Al Jefferson. Howard averages 5 or more FT attempts than both of them.

So, actually...Timmy's and Jefferson's ppg look better since they are fouled less. Looking over both careers, when Tim averaged over 8 FT attempts, he was a 23-25 ppg guy. Better than Howard.

When Jefferson averaged 5 attempts just last year, he put up 23 ppg. Better than Howard.

Seems to me Duncan and Jefferson are better suited being the #1 option than Dwight Howard.

If he wasn't being fouled as often as he does, he could very well be scoring even more. Teams gameplan to foul Howard whenever he positions himself in scoring position inside.


If you take away points from free throws...

Howard scores 13 points on 10 shot attempts
Duncan scores 14 points on 14 shot attempts
Jefferson scores 15 points on 15 shot attempts

Howard is averaging more points per shot than the other two.

Now understand that in no way am I saying that Howard is better than those two. I'm just using them as a reference to show that Dwight isn't as inept offensively as we all, myself included, claim him to be.

It's similar to how some speak about LeBron. Some say that he needs to work on this and that, all the while dude is leading the league in scoring while averaging almost 9 assists.

Dwight is in the same boat. He scores, just as much as other centers. He just gets it in a different way.

EDIT:

And for what it's worth, looked up the percentage of field goals that were assisted with these three:

AJ- 44%
DH- 49%
TD- 54%

and just for kicks...

David Lee- 64%
Amare- 61%
Pau Gasol- 57%
Chris Bosh- 51%

[P2K]

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All that is well and good (we can always rely on TMagic for stats), but there are plenty of variables that into play with all that. And let's be real, Duncan is 34 and his game is declining. Jefferson is a fringe All Star. Howard is supposed to be better than them.

The eye test proves, though, that Howard is a liability on offense. Not all the time because the league sucks, but still. He can't back down Pau Gasol. That'all I know. I think if asked to do more, Orlando's turnover numbers would skyrocket.

[HMcCoy]

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He gets plenty of touches, IMO. I think the turnovers and fouls drawn skew the FGA attempts pretty badly, and more than that, the offense simply isn't run through tht post. Whattayagonnado? Their setup is working.

Seems to me he's all upper-body and doesn't fight for deep position that well, but then again, how many bulky, "6-fouls-to-burn" bigs are their nowadays, lol? The center position has sorta replaced the SF as the teams primary defensive weapon, and if I were in ORL front office, I wouldn't want to burn out my superstar and risk the kid developing back problems trying to turn a 7-foot greyhound into a bruiser. 20-24 ppg is MORE than enough scoring considering what he brings to the table. Being able to shoot comfortably with either hand under duress is an underrated bigman skill fans take for granted. The fact that Howard can give you around 20 without mastering that is pretty impressive, IMO.

In other news, has anyone been checking out Hibbert develop his post game? He's a big lumbering Bizarro to Howards Superman, but his moves are getting better by the day.

[P2K]

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He gets plenty of touches, IMO. I think the turnovers and fouls drawn skew the FGA attempts pretty badly, and more than that, the offense simply isn't run through tht post. Whattayagonnado? Their setup is working.

Seems to me he's all upper-body and doesn't fight for deep position that well, but then again, how many bulky, "6-fouls-to-burn" bigs are their nowadays, lol? The center position has sorta replaced the SF as the teams primary defensive weapon, and if I were in ORL front office, I wouldn't want to burn out my superstar and risk the kid developing back problems trying to turn a 7-foot greyhound into a bruiser. 20-24 ppg is MORE than enough scoring considering what he brings to the table. Being able to shoot comfortably with either hand under duress is an underrated bigman skill fans take for granted. The fact that Howard can give you around 20 without mastering that is pretty impressive, IMO.

Great post.

The Howard debate will continue because people expect him to be Shaq or past superstar centers. That's just not going to happen. Not a superstar, but a star player that is dominant on defense and a threat on offense. He's not touching Superman's cape, but he doesn't need to. He is who he is. Wish the Sixers had him.

In other news, has anyone been checking out Hibbert develop his post game? He's a big lumbering Bizarro to Howards Superman, but his moves are getting better by the day.

Yeah. He still sucks, though lol.

[Jasong7777]

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So would yall say that he's a more athletic Dikembe Mutombo?

[HMcCoy]

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So would yall say that he's a more athletic Dikembe Mutombo?

Nah. Zeke wasn't very effective in the screen roll game. Howard is a bigger, more athletic Alonzo Mourning minus the jumper, in a league with only a couple above average centers to battle against. Funny, Zeke's arrival at G-town forced Alonzo to the PF where he developed his stroke. I wouldn't put it past Howard to develop a Duncan-esque midrange game if he works on it...which would be disgusting.

I think Hibbert is going to be decent, PK.

[23]

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Nah. Zeke wasn't very effective in the screen roll game. Howard is a bigger, more athletic Alonzo Mourning minus the jumper, in a league with only a couple above average centers to battle against. Funny, Zeke's arrival at G-town forced Alonzo to the PF where he developed his stroke. I wouldn't put it past Howard to develop a Duncan-esque midrange game if he works on it...which would be disgusting.

I think Hibbert is going to be decent, PK.

Dont you mean Deke? Zeke is Isaiah Thomas lol