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  • Cebby
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    • Apr 2005
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    #331
    Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

    Originally posted by Bornindamecca
    Tanking in the NFL would be different than tanking in the NBA anyway. The NFL season is so short, by the time you realize how terrible you are, there aren't more than 8 weeks left anyway. Can you imagine an NBA team tanking for half of a season?

    Season is too long to do anything to encourage that.

    Plus the NFL is such a high impact, pride-based game with huge rosters, I don't think tanking could reach the heights that it could in the NBA. NBA players generally feel "safe" and there is no one trying to run into them if they are lazy. If you're an offensive player in the NFL, tanking could be very painful.

    NBA needs the lottery to keep people honest.
    The biggest difference is the number of players.

    When the 2008 Heat wanted to tank, you bench Wade. When 2007 Celtics want to tank, you bench Pierce.

    In the NFL, even the worst teams would require the benching of 3-5+ key players to ensure they lose games. It would be much more obvious in the NFL and given that the ticket holders would be deprived of likely 2-3 games using your half season example, they would be irate compared to getting say 3-5 tanking games out of 41.

    The second biggest factor is the impact of the top player. The only player in the last 20+ years who has had the impact of a typical #1 NBA pick has been Peyton Manning. Tanking for Oden/Durant, Howard, or Lebron makes sense. Aside from Manning, I can't think of an absolute lock player that every team would trip over themselves to acquire. The success rate of the consensus best player in the NBA draft approaches 100%. The success rate for the consensus best player in the NFL draft is probably about 50%.

    In the NBA, the drop off from the #1 to the #2 player in the draft can be Hall of Fame to 15 points a game. In the NFL there are always 5-10 Pro Bowl/All Pro players with several franchise players.
    Last edited by Cebby; 05-19-2010, 01:18 AM.

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    • tpe14
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      • Apr 2010
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      #332
      Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

      Ha the nets owner's face dropped as soon as they announced new jersey
      will get no.3 pick. 76ers fan should be very happy getting no.2 while
      washington might trade arenas and pick wall.
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      • Checmate101
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        • Mar 2006
        • 9947

        #333
        Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

        Originally posted by tpe14
        Ha the nets owner's face dropped as soon as they announced new jersey
        will get no.3 pick. 76ers fan should be very happy getting no.2 while
        washington might trade arenas and pick wall.

        Arenas is not going anywhere.
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        • tpe14
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          • Apr 2010
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          #334
          Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

          Originally posted by Checmate101
          Arenas is not going anywhere.
          Then who do you think they will pick then? If the wizards do pick wall
          im pretty sure he would want to be a starter.
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          • Ninja Tactic
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            • Nov 2009
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            #335
            Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

            They already said If they can they Will trade Arenas

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            • JBH3
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              • Jan 2007
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              #336
              Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

              Originally posted by tpe14
              Then who do you think they will pick then? If the wizards do pick wall
              im pretty sure he would want to be a starter.
              Doubt they can trade Arenas. I'd put him at the 2, and run Wall at point.
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              • ScoobySnax
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                • Mar 2009
                • 7624

                #337
                Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                To me, Favors doesn't fit well with NJ. Cousins seems like the most fitting piece because you can slide Brook down to the 4. That's a "set in stone" frontcourt for the next 8-10 years. I'll take that any day.
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                • The GIGGAS
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                  • Mar 2003
                  • 28474

                  #338
                  Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                  I just heard Washington won the Lottery.

                  I can't wait to play with Wall in NBA 2k11. Don't **** this up, Grunfeld.
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                  • ehh
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #339
                    Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                    Arenas is probably the most difficult player in the league to trade.
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                    • mvb34
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                      • Jul 2002
                      • 8138

                      #340
                      Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                      Originally posted by Ninja Tactic
                      They already said If they can they Will trade Arenas
                      No they didn't.. The Wiz have said all along the weren't trading Gil.. (maybe a smokescreen) You have think what other NBA team is willing to take on Gil's salary and lets be honest has he lost some steps because the knee injuries..
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                      • ehh
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                        • Mar 2003
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                        #341
                        Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                        Originally posted by ScoobySnax
                        To me, Favors doesn't fit well with NJ. Cousins seems like the most fitting piece because you can slide Brook down to the 4. That's a "set in stone" frontcourt for the next 8-10 years. I'll take that any day.
                        Yup, I agree. Plus you don't have to worry about the whole 'what do we do with Harris' issue. And even if Favors isn't a bust I don't think he's a good fit like you said.
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                        • Kruza
                          Mainstream Outlaw
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 6285

                          #342
                          Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                          I'm not shocked by the outcome, but I am disappointed that the Pistons are picking at #7, which is right where the club was expected to be picking from jump. Not one ounce of good luck *sigh*.

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                          • ScoobySnax
                            #faceuary2014
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 7624

                            #343
                            Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                            I don't know who DET should go after. It just seems like their 'okay' at each position and don't really have that one guy that gets it done every night. I really hate that they gave all that money to Ben and Charlie V.
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                            • Kruza
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                              • Jul 2002
                              • 6285

                              #344
                              Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                              If the Pistons stay pat at the 7 spot, I expect the pick to be either Cole Aldrich, Ed Davis, Greg Monroe, or Al-Farouq Aminu.

                              However, I'm holding out hope on expecting a draft day trade since the club still have good players with value that can be moved.

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                              • KG
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                                • Sep 2005
                                • 17583

                                #345
                                Re: 2010 NBA Draft Thread.

                                Originally posted by Ninja Tactic
                                They already said If they can they Will trade Arenas
                                Like others have said, this statement is 100% false.

                                Originally posted by ehh

                                Just look at Favors' weaknesses from DX, is that REALLY a guy you want to take 3rd overall?

                                - All-around offensive polish
                                - Lacks significant offensive polish
                                - Turnover prone
                                - Ability to create own shot
                                - Ability to put ball on floor
                                - Advanced post moves
                                - Experience
                                - Not always assertive
                                - College system makes him difficult to evaluate
                                - Got by on instincts at college level
                                - Not productive enough
                                - Relatively unproven
                                - Free throw shooting
                                - Jump-shot
                                Agree 100%. To me he screams all of those guys that were mentioned before, Tyrus Thomas, Stromile Swift, etc...

                                All of those guys were projected to be Shawn Kemp but none of them got close to where Kemp was during his peak.
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