The LeBron James Thread

[utexas]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

lol.

There are a lot of factors that will come into play that will never allow LeBron to have a better career than MJ.

I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion that was probably the polar opposite a few months ago.

[Jonesy]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

This thread =

[sarcasm]If the amazingly accurate simulation engine in nba 2k10 is anything to go by (and we know it always provides immaculate simulation results ) the Heat will become LeBron's team and he will win the next 3 MVP's. [/sarcasm]

[mKoz26]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

As has been said a billion times, Magic and Bird were drafted onto rosters with Hall of Famers, Kobe and Pierce wanted to be traded if their teams couldn't get better players, and Wade and Duncan strongly considered leaving in free agency.

If Kobe was traded to Chicago would the Bulls have been Kobe's team or Dengs? If Lebron goes to New York or New Jersey was he joining Amare or Devin Harris' team? Did he join Z's team?

That's a trick question; Deng was sent to L.A. in the deal that never happened.

[Cebby]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

That's a trick question; Deng was sent to L.A. in the deal that never happened.

Obviously that was the hangup but my post went on the assumption that other players would have been involved.

[mKoz26]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Obviously that was the hangup but my post went on the assumption that other players would have been involved.

Fair enough.

However, in regards to your hypothetical, the comparison doesn't work. Deng, Harris, Amare, and Z were all title-less on their respective teams. Wade is already the alpha-male in Miami AND he's led the team to a title.

[Cebby]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Fair enough.

However, in regards to your hypothetical, the comparison doesn't work. Deng, Harris, Amare, and Z were all title-less on their respective teams. Wade is already the alpha-male in Miami AND he's led the team to a title.

5 seasons ago

He's led them to 3 first round exits and one of the worst teams of all time the past four years.

[mKoz26]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

5 seasons ago

He's led them to 3 first round exits and one of the worst teams of all time the past four years.

If LeBron gets traded to the Lakers in '08 (not realistic, just a hypothetical), who's the man in L.A.?

[Cebby]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

If LeBron gets traded to the Lakers in '08 (not realistic, just a hypothetical), who's the man in L.A.?

Kobe was better than Lebron in 2008 and has shown an absolute need to be "the man."

In my opinion Kobe is the only player in the NBA who is actually "the man." Yes, Duncan, Dirk, Dwight, Melo, Bosh, Lebron, Wade, and others were all clearly the best players on their team, but Kobe to me is the only guy in the NBA who actually cares about being the indisputable best player on the team and wanting the most glory.

[mKoz26]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Kobe was better than Lebron in 2008 and has shown an absolute need to be "the man."

In my opinion Kobe is the only player in the NBA who is actually "the man." Yes, Duncan, Dirk, Dwight, Melo, Bosh, Lebron, Wade, and others were all clearly the best players on their team, but Kobe to me is the only guy in the NBA who actually cares about being the indisputable best player on the team and wanting the most glory.

I would agree that Kobe is on a completely different level, but the best player will still usually be the outright leader of a team, although there are a few exceptions. The exceptions are for guys like Paul Pierce and Dwayne Wade who've been with the team longer than any other player on their respective teams, and are only marginally worse than the best player on their team who is a newcomer. We saw KG and Ray Allen defer to Pierce in Boston, and I honestly don't think their is a better comparison in the history of the NBA to the Heat's situation.

[Starlin4Prez]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion that was probably the polar opposite a few months ago.

Says the guy who openly admitted to jumping on the Heat bandwagon. Smh. Your opinion on any basketball topic in general is virtually irrelevant, especially when it involves LeBron being better than Michael at anything.

5 seasons ago

He's led them to 3 first round exits and one of the worst teams of all time the past four years.

Still has 1 more than LeBron, and is still living in Wade county...get real.

[Cebby]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

We saw KG and Ray Allen defer to Pierce in Boston, and I honestly don't think their is a better comparison in the history of the NBA to the Heat's situation.

We also saw Pierce differ to Allen at times. IIRC Pierce was the third or fourth leading scorer on the Celtics in the closeout game of the finals.

However the bigger difference between the Celtics and the Heat is that Pierce had by far the best all around offensive game while Lebron and Wade are about even with maybe a slight advantage to Lebron.

I don't think anyone on the Heat has to defer to anyone. Lebron and Wade will attack the basket, Bosh will get his, and Miller will make open threes.

[da ThRONe]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

lol.

There are a lot of factors that will come into play that will never allow LeBron to have a better career than MJ.

Which are what exactly?

Because he left Cleveland?
Because he teamed up with Wade?

[capp34]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Which are what exactly?

Because he left Cleveland?
Because he teamed up with Wade?

The main one is basketball skill, he is not even close in that category.

[da ThRONe]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

The main one is basketball skill, he is not even close in that category.

Which skills are these?

LeBron can handle the ball better than Jordan, has more range on his jumper, more size and speed he's a better passer and just as good if not a better on ball defender. Jordan was a more consistant mid range shooter but that was later in his career.

[Starlin4Prez]

Re: LeBron James Signs With Miami Heat

Which skills are these?

LeBron can handle the ball better than Jordan, has more range on his jumper, more size and speed he's a better passer and just as good if not a better on ball defender. Jordan was a more consistant mid range shooter but that was later in his career.

No...no...irrelevant...god no.